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Pillars of Eternity |OT| You must gather your party before venturing forth.
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Rawket Lawnchair
Member
I really liked it. You can see everything coming from miles and miles away as the scenario steps on timeless RPG clichés, but it's still nicely done.
But I love paladins in others games TwT
Why Paladins in this game aren't awesome too *sad*
Someone make a mod and put Diablo 3 crusader in it, please.
I want to feel the almightest of heaven!!
Soyongdori
Member
There is a helm and armor that looks similar to D3 crusader.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Yeah, I stopped too. The loading times are just killing me.
Soyongdori
Member
Is the patch coming out tomorrow?
Melhisedek
Member
Guys should I finish
before I go to Defiance Bay?
I have a full party of 6 but almost got killed in the woods past my
Also anything special I should upgrade there first?
Raedrics Hold quest and Endless Paths
I have a full party of 6 but almost got killed in the woods past my
Stronghold
Also anything special I should upgrade there first?
superdeluxe
Member
A week after release some of the big time streamers are still playing this on twitch and loving it. 2-3k per each stream.
Hopefully that means more copies are being bought.
Hopefully that means more copies are being bought.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
So anyone else having real issues with getting abilities to select during combat? A lot of my trouble early on I've traced to not noticing that some abilities I was trying to queue up weren't actually selecting when I clicked on them. It wasn't until I noticed how consistently selecting my fighters knockdown ability wouldn't bring up the blue sword targeter and how I had to select it two or three more times
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
They said they aim to release it this week. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
Shake Appeal
Member
Most likely, but it depends on QA.
Hey said today the patch is ready to go tomorrow more or less.
This annoys me too. I wish they added some more visual cues to let you know whats going on. I'd also like it if they could show a queue of what actions you have lined for a character when you select them. Like if I want my Ranger to maim a target, mark it for the animal companion, move back, then start auto attacking show that sequence on the screen.
Is tomorrow's patch going to address excessive load times in general?
I know there's that specific problem related to laying traps that ties into load times, but I think I've laid a total of two or three in over 20 hours of gameplay and am still experiencing long load times.
Wonder if the patch will cut down those times overall.
I've seen it suggested that the autosave every load screen makes things slow.
If anything, I wouldn't be too surprised if this patch made saves/loads SLOWER, since they presumably had to add a bunch of logic to detect all the bugged cases (wizard magical quarterstaff, ranger companion missing, stats bugged on companions, cipher not generating focus, etc.) that checks every time.
Shake Appeal
Member
It's pretty much the best game of all time.
Seeing how it bounced to more enemies, over longer distances, and did more damage as a level 2 reusable ability than the per rest level 3 Wizard spell that only bounces to two additional targets... Yeah, it was OP as hell. Whoever designed a lot of the Wizard spells to be either touch spells and/or extremely short range must have hated that class.
Man, final boss was though.
Endgame status:
Ahem, now to some conclusions:
- Companions were good, definitely on BG2 level. A shame there are only 8 of them. One of the best things about BG2 was having all these companions with different personalities and classes that may or may not hate each other. Like when you had Edwin and Minsc in your party and suddenly they are killing each other. Here your party is pretty much forced, and three of them are also locked until chapter 2.
- Reputation system and C&C were pretty good. NPC you saved would move to other places and talk about you. It also "solved" a big problem of BG2, i.e. quests feeling to disconnected from everything most of the times.
- Stronghold was kinda superfluous. You can tell it was the last thing they developed. Its buffs were kinda silly, I mean, rest bonus? Even assuming they are good, I would need to rest again once I get to the next location because my characters would be tired. Even lol-DAI had better stronghold management, and that one sucked. But w/ever, I'm not a fan of strongholds in these games.
- Encounter design was good. Not BG2- good (then again, BG2 encounter design is the best in the genre), but definitely on par with the average IE game. Certainly not Dragon Age-bad.
- Content was oddly sparse. I remember Sawyer mentioning he didn't like how you couldn't walk 5 feet in Athkala without getting a quest, and it definitely shows. It's a mix of BG1 and 2. There is a lot of stuff, but it's not concentrated in 3-4 areas.
- Got a crazy ammount of gold in the end but I had nothing to spend it with, the game could have used its own version of Ribald's Adventurer's Mart. (Unless there is one and I didn't find it)
- Interface was the perfect evolution of the IE interface. It will be hard to go back to BG2 interface after this.
- Dungeon design was excellent. Some alternate paths, some stat checks, some puzzles
- NPC flow of consciousness were tl;dr
- Speaking of NPC, I was not a fan of action descriptions. They came out as annoying when they were voiced and superfluous when not most the the times. It worked in Planescape because the NPC were weird and crazy, but here they are mostly the average human/elf/dwarf.
I would rate this 9 Planescape:Torment out of ten Baldur's Gate 2 and 4 Ladies of Pain out of 5.
Now bring forth the Mask of the Betrayer-level-of-crazy expansion.
I actually switched to easy for it because they wouldn't just go down. 
Endgame status:
1) Souls restored to the children
2) Dozens in charge of Defiance Bay (Meh), Animancy forgiven, Heritage Hill's Tower got used again (wtf) and the district was abandoned
3) Gilded Vale became The Far West
4) Thaos memories erased and CHARNAME's sister soul destroyed
2) Dozens in charge of Defiance Bay (Meh), Animancy forgiven, Heritage Hill's Tower got used again (wtf) and the district was abandoned
3) Gilded Vale became The Far West
4) Thaos memories erased and CHARNAME's sister soul destroyed
Ahem, now to some conclusions:
- Companions were good, definitely on BG2 level. A shame there are only 8 of them. One of the best things about BG2 was having all these companions with different personalities and classes that may or may not hate each other. Like when you had Edwin and Minsc in your party and suddenly they are killing each other. Here your party is pretty much forced, and three of them are also locked until chapter 2.
- Reputation system and C&C were pretty good. NPC you saved would move to other places and talk about you. It also "solved" a big problem of BG2, i.e. quests feeling to disconnected from everything most of the times.
- Stronghold was kinda superfluous. You can tell it was the last thing they developed. Its buffs were kinda silly, I mean, rest bonus? Even assuming they are good, I would need to rest again once I get to the next location because my characters would be tired. Even lol-DAI had better stronghold management, and that one sucked. But w/ever, I'm not a fan of strongholds in these games.
- Encounter design was good. Not BG2- good (then again, BG2 encounter design is the best in the genre), but definitely on par with the average IE game. Certainly not Dragon Age-bad.
- Content was oddly sparse. I remember Sawyer mentioning he didn't like how you couldn't walk 5 feet in Athkala without getting a quest, and it definitely shows. It's a mix of BG1 and 2. There is a lot of stuff, but it's not concentrated in 3-4 areas.
- Got a crazy ammount of gold in the end but I had nothing to spend it with, the game could have used its own version of Ribald's Adventurer's Mart. (Unless there is one and I didn't find it)
- Interface was the perfect evolution of the IE interface. It will be hard to go back to BG2 interface after this.
No, not really, I fucking love BG2.
- Dungeon design was excellent. Some alternate paths, some stat checks, some puzzles
- NPC flow of consciousness were tl;dr
- Speaking of NPC, I was not a fan of action descriptions. They came out as annoying when they were voiced and superfluous when not most the the times. It worked in Planescape because the NPC were weird and crazy, but here they are mostly the average human/elf/dwarf.
I would rate this 9 Planescape:Torment out of ten Baldur's Gate 2 and 4 Ladies of Pain out of 5.
Now bring forth the Mask of the Betrayer-level-of-crazy expansion.
Pewpewlazors99
Member
What is the party swap bug? I somehow have missed it.
It took me 5-10 minutes of digging through google and an rpgcodex thread to figure out C&C = Choices and Consequences.
I disabled auto saves using http://www.nexusmods.com/pillarsofeternity/mods/14/? which helps a little because they piss me off too.. The times still aren't great but each time you walk in a door it is autosaving which takes probably like 5-10 seconds per load. You just have to make sure you quick save when you really need too.
And I'm finished! Man, amazing game, that's all I really have to say. Took me around 30 hours, skipped a couple of tasks but I tried to do as much as possible. Never finished Od Nua though, just didn't know what to do on floor 13.
Now I'm off to play Baldur's Gates and Mask of the Betrayer. And maybe a third playthrough of PS: Torment. Motherfucking RPGs, hell yeah!
Now I'm off to play Baldur's Gates and Mask of the Betrayer. And maybe a third playthrough of PS: Torment. Motherfucking RPGs, hell yeah!
Think that's one of the bugs being fixed tomorrow:
Fixed delay issue on Knockdown.
But yeah, I've had that happen to me too. Really annoying.
D&D template paladins were always boring in combat, sorry if you just realized this now.
I feel like only Blizzard has the market cornered on making Paladin-style classes fun.
Shake Appeal
Member
Hooowww? I have more than this on the clock and I'm not even halfway through Act II yet.
Paladins are just a boring concept all around. I'm glad the ones in Pillars can "worship" gold, Vailia, merciless efficiency, etc.. Paladins are goody two-shoes boring Mary Sue pious knights in just about every other game.
Well I hope all you collectors edition owners are happy. Obsidian just got back to me and told me the standard boxes haven't shipped yet because they have to wait for the game disc to be put in them(which I guess makes sense). All because people were too lazy to apply a day one patch on a copy I doubt most would even use to play.
Since it's a Steam game, I don't know that you have much of a choice unless you got the DRM-free version.
I guess you could back up the whole game directory, patch, and then copy the directory back.
Thats just bad writing. Same as claiming lawful good characters are goody two shoes boring Mary Sues.
What do you mean by this?
Don't know what causes it but some people (myself included) just up and lose the ability to change their party members. You can go through the menu, select who you want but nothing happens.
I managed to fix it through some dark wizardry of zoning in and out of caed nua while sending and recalling people on adventures.
Eh? Just disable auto update.
Edit: my error, looks like there is no disabling auto update. Sorry for that.
Oh, certainly. I love that POE paladins aren't locked into being stereotypical "goody-two-shoes never take a reward for a good deed" class. It's just that it's still working on the D&D template so in combat they really, really, mechanically dull. In every sense of the word. Only WoW Paladins/D3 Crusaders are remotely interesting to play despite being not as interesting lore-wise.
Sorry if I'm not making much sense, English is not my first language.
The white part is voiced, the rest isn't. So you start reading "She turns her eyes" but the voice acting is already going "She's was always so stubborn". Reaaaally annoying.
To be honest, this particular example is not so bad, but the constant focus on facial expressions with some NPC was annoying.
LurkerPrime
Member
When allying with one faction in Act 2,
I can't find 'em, or else it's glitched.
which person do you talk to when siding with the Crucible Knights?
beato_angelico
Member
no, you can do them later
you don't really need to upgrade anything if you do not want to. the inn is probably the first choice if you want to explore the endless paths, especially on hard with limited camping supplies
Sir Garbageman
Member
Any must buy items in Defiance Bay? I have like 40K in Act 2 with nothing to spend it on.
Sorry if I'm not making much sense, English is not my first language.
The white part is voiced, the rest isn't. So you start reading "She turns her eyes" but the voice acting is already going "She's was always so stubborn". Reaaaally annoying.
To be honest, this particular example is not so bad, but the constant focus on facial expressions with some NPC was annoying.
Nah that descriptive shit is the best. Even better than most high budget animations since even the best cant afford to properly animated all the little things. Dragonfall also does this and it is glorious.
Try a warhammer.
Shake Appeal
Member
The solution is to turn off the voice acting. Everyone that isn't Eder is mediocre anyway.Sorry if I'm not making much sense, English is not my first language.
The white part is voiced, the rest isn't. So you start reading "She turns her eyes" but the voice acting is already going "She's was always so stubborn". Reaaaally annoying.
To be honest, this particular example is not so bad, but the constant focus on facial expressions with some NPC was annoying.
Strife In a Teacup
Member
I have that issue with potions. I have to hammer the key on those to get them to drink them sometimes I swear.
lol, these spontaneous banters between the companions are great.
The druid guy said that, once he got jumped by a Stelgaer and was pinned down when Sagani said that
he should`ve pierced its throat with an arrow, and he said that he was spirishifted and the Stelgaer was in heat and he pierced It alright but not with an arrow... 0_o
he should`ve pierced its throat with an arrow, and he said that he was spirishifted and the Stelgaer was in heat and he pierced It alright but not with an arrow... 0_o
Sir Garbageman
Member
Where / which one?
I really regret going GOG now. I love the service, but oof that delay bones me.
One of my saves just black screens trying to load out of the interior of Raedric's Keep. Reload/relaunch game does nothing to help. Was hoping I could play this weekend.
Snapshot King
Member
That's quite a patch. Only thing of note that it's missing is the Rime and Frost trap bug that balloons save files.