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Pillars of Eternity |OT| You must gather your party before venturing forth.
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MisterShine
Member
Just finished the game an hour ago. There are no actual spoilers below, but just in case I figured I'd use them.
All in all, solid 'A-' grade from me. If they want to pull their own SR:Hong Kong return to Kickstarter, I'll count myself in once again.
I have a lot of thoughts I think I'll put down in my steam review, but ultimately I'm very content yet tinged with unavoidable disappointment. It's really scratched the Infinity Engine itch I've carried for so long now, but ultimately the writing just wasn't on the level I'd hoped for. Excellent world building and a great foundation for future games, but honestly I was hoping for something on the level The Sith Lords or Mask of the Betrayer, and Pillars I feel simply didn't deliver. A couple great companions, the rest merely good. Wove a very interesting mystery with the main plot, didn't pay off in a tremendous fashion. The stronghold was even more barebones than I figured it would be. I was just expecting better from Obsidian.
All in all, solid 'A-' grade from me. If they want to pull their own SR:Hong Kong return to Kickstarter, I'll count myself in once again.
I don't understand this thinking. OP shit makes the game not nearly as fun
cripterion
Member
Hmmm, the patch went from 1.0 to 1.7GB, anyone else?
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
First new glitch only seconds in, Obsidian should hang their heads in shame (and should also never fix this).
So I can type up a full list in a bit but the most noteworthy thing to point out is that they are not retroactive. My old save files seem to have no change.
Besides that, it's mostly -Con / -Per for people who don't need them to gain DEX or INT, whichever they were lacking. I have two NPCs left to get and then I'll have the full list.
Edit: Grieving Mother has zero changes, the one I expected the second largest attribute overhaul for (after Sagani). welp
So glad to be back in. I do notice that a bunch of togglable options are now off for my game that were on by default.
Showing skill checks in conversations
Showing area of effect on spells
Showing conversation option that I don't qualify for.
Accessing stash away from town
There were a few others but that AoE spell one really caught me as I couldn't see where my spells would hit...uhhh. Lol, not sure why those all turned off but if you're seeing changes you don't anticipate you may have had a checkbox cleared.
Showing skill checks in conversations
Showing area of effect on spells
Showing conversation option that I don't qualify for.
Accessing stash away from town
There were a few others but that AoE spell one really caught me as I couldn't see where my spells would hit...uhhh. Lol, not sure why those all turned off but if you're seeing changes you don't anticipate you may have had a checkbox cleared.
Use Cheat Engine or something if game balance doesn't interest you.
Pewpewlazors99
Member
Waits the glitch? Not sure what I'm looking at...
Linearskillz
Member
Ya I just downloaded/installed some more. Not sure what or how much since I wasn't paying attention to Steam when it was happening.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Hearth Harvest no longer cares for your petty 'grid boundaries'.
I'd be very grateful for a list detailing every Companion's changes since they involve base stats, which is not really something Obsidian can change in existing saves.
So I would like to manually update my companions since I don't really want to restart and it'll be days before the patch hits for GOG users.
Pewpewlazors99
Member
I guess its already a planned fix for 1.04
I somehow missed your
I thought you were seriously upset about it haha
Its coming right at us!
Intheflorsh
Banned
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
I'm seriously upset that they're fixing it, rip in peace giant axe.
The response I got when I emailed them about this was they should have more info in the next news update today. So hopefully they send that out soon.
How exactly is deflection calculated?
I have Eder at level 3 with 55 deflection. How is that broken down? Is that too high?
Also, I tried to put a ring of deflection on him, and under his equipped status it says the ring is "supressed", and it's greyed out and doesn't give a deflection bonus. Why is that?
I have Eder at level 3 with 55 deflection. How is that broken down? Is that too high?
Also, I tried to put a ring of deflection on him, and under his equipped status it says the ring is "supressed", and it's greyed out and doesn't give a deflection bonus. Why is that?
Its surpressed because you are already getting a bigger bonus from some other source thats overriding it.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
You have 2 pieces of equipment with deflection. Stuff doesn't stack in this game
Because some other object already gives that buff and overrides the previous lower value ones!
Now this might be something that requires an immediate hotfix.
Means he's getting the buff elsewhere. Generally can't stack buffs. So if for instance a cloak of protection and a ring of protection had the same stats, it would be pointless to wear both and one should be given to another party member.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Yep, my cipher can't lockpick anything. Traps can still be disabled but that's it.
It's very possible to hire a full set of 5 custom adventurers right when you hit level 3 (shortly after arriving in Gilded Vale), which is the optimal time to do it, if you take advantage of Heodan in the opening pre-waterskin event.
It does require starting with a mechanics of 1 for the extra 750cp, though.
Basically:
1. Pre-waterskin, scour the map for all loot. With a mechanics of 1+, you can find a terrible but valuable pistol hidden in a tent in the south-west.
2. Unequip everything except for a single weapon for either you or Calisca.
3. Sell EVERYTHING. This should get you up to ~1900cp.
4. Start the waterskin event, kill the first two enemies for a bow and hide armor. Equip these to make the rest of the enemies doable.
5. Loot everything in the ruins.
6. When you get to Gilded Vale, you should have ~2100cp and enough loot to sell to get the last 400cp you need to hire all 5 adventurers.
I think there's some pre-order or backer item that you can sell for a lot of cp, too, but I don't know about that.
Pewpewlazors99
Member
It looks like its not happening in new saves. But yeah, if this patch actually broke lockpicking it needs to be addressed ASAP
Passive buffs from things like talents and racials do stack. Everything else doesnt.
Sir Garbageman
Member
Crap, they didn't update companion stats in active saves?
Pewpewlazors99
Member
Dropping them and re-adding them to your party doesn't fix it?
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Not that me and someone else messing around could see!
I debated how to type this out a bit so I'll just use Classes instead of names~ If people want the whole thing spoiler tagged, I'll do that.
Edit: Fixed a typo on the Fighter's Changes (+2 Res -> +1 Res). Paladin's base stats I was using were incorrect so those have been changed; she received no stat changes.
Edit2: Ranger's stats were way off as well on every wiki / reddit post? This is what I get for not just using my in-game values the entire time.
Fighter:
Mig: 16
Con: 16
Dex: 11
Per: 12
Int: 10
Res: 13
Con: 16
Dex: 11
Per: 12
Int: 10
Res: 13
Wizard:
Mig: 12
Con: 10
Dex: 15
Per: 12
Int: 16
Res: 13
Con: 10
Dex: 15
Per: 12
Int: 16
Res: 13
Priest:
Mig: 14
Con: 13
Dex: 9
Per: 9
Int: 15
Res: 19
Con: 13
Dex: 9
Per: 9
Int: 15
Res: 19
Chanter:
Mig: 16
Con: 12
Dex: 9
Per: 14
Int: 17
Res: 10
Con: 12
Dex: 9
Per: 14
Int: 17
Res: 10
Ranger
Mig: 15
Con: 12
Dex: 15
Per: 13
Int: 13
Res: 10
Con: 12
Dex: 15
Per: 13
Int: 13
Res: 10
Ranger's Pet:
Mig: 10
Con: 8
Dex: 15
Per: 15
Int: 5
Res: 12
Con: 8
Dex: 15
Per: 15
Int: 5
Res: 12
Druid:
Mig: 14
Con: 13
Dex: 12
Per: 13
Int: 15
Res: 10
Con: 13
Dex: 12
Per: 13
Int: 15
Res: 10
Cipher:
Mig: 11
Con: 12
Dex: 16
Per: 17
Int: 12
Res: 10
Con: 12
Dex: 16
Per: 17
Int: 12
Res: 10
Paladin:
Mig: 12
Con: 13
Dex: 11
Per: 14
Int: 13
Res: 15
Con: 13
Dex: 11
Per: 14
Int: 13
Res: 15
Hmm, weird. I only downloaded 870+ MB on steam.
Pewpewlazors99
Member
Well this is a fun one, hopefully its not widespread...
Certain quest continuously gives xp after its completed...
Certain quest continuously gives xp after its completed...
hunchback
Member
I received my POE Collector's Edition Guide. They did a great job on the amount of info it provides. The main negative is that it is hardbound so it will never be able to sit open while you game. I miss the spiral bound guides they would make.
With the new patch out that also apparently means the stats are changed on some items? So you will have to make notes in the guide.
With the new patch out that also apparently means the stats are changed on some items? So you will have to make notes in the guide.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I'm having fun with the game as-is. All I wanted was bugs to be fixed. Instead, I now have to play the game differently, and I don't appreciate that.
I just tested it and was able to lock pick so looks like I dodged a bullet there.
I edited one change since this post (+1 Res for the Fighter, not +2; listed stat is correct, just the gain in the Changes: part was off). Apparently basic addition/subtraction eludes me ;__; Going to double check the rest one more time to make sure I didn't make another goof.
Incidentally, the Priest has 79 total attributes vs everyone else at 78. The Ranger "gained" a stat point for free but she was missing one before (77 in her old stats) as well.
Well I just had a fantastic and quite difficult fight against (Elmshore)
. Either the patch nerfs hit me more than I expected, or Act 3 starts off more balanced than I thought! Good news either way, so much fun beating the shit out of him and having to use tactics again.
Naldred the Ogre Shaman
Pewpewlazors99
Member
Add spoilers bro!