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PixelJunk Shooter 2 |OT| - Can You Make It Past The Asteroid Belt?
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Tntnnbltn said:Mine was over an hour too. The clock times out at 59:99.99 though.
Now I have to backtrack for the rest of the diamonds.
Yeah, when I saw the clock wasn't moving anymore, I just said fuck it. I know I can beat it, but I don't want to keep trying when I felt the mindset wasn't there to beat it. The stages leading to the boss aren't a big deal to redo anyway.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
My major issue with Pixeljunk Shooter (both 1 and 2) is that the levels are too long. They'd be great at half the length. Right now I can only play one or two levels per session and rarely anything more. I've only beaten 3 levels so far because of that.
This game sure is harder than the first; completed the first episode this morning, and I truly hope the egg/acid mechanics don't show up in the other episodes, since I found that crap frustrating.
Did some multiplayer matches yesterday, and it was surprisingly fun! Very tense when you battle someone that is of an equal skill level.
Did some multiplayer matches yesterday, and it was surprisingly fun! Very tense when you battle someone that is of an equal skill level.
kinoki said:
Wait, this is an issue? Isn't it good that a game paces itself so you can't blow through the entire game in a day? If finishing a stage gives you enough satisfaction to stop for the day, why is that a negative?
I honestly felt the stages in Shooter 1 were too short, and too easy. I was done with it really quickly and it didn't feel like I accomplished that much, aside form the boss stages. Shooter 2 is much longer, and the challenge is much better balanced. The stages in Shooter 2 are just about perfect in terms of length and difficulty imo. Taken as a whole, I would say that Shooter + Shooter 2 as a single game would be something I feel comfortable paying $39.90 for as a retail product. 6 episodes + multiplayer is quite a lot of content.
DoomGyver
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I think it's just an easter egg, if youPhiLonius said:
shoot away at some rock near the exit of that section you cause the water to drain out of the area where the pink diamond is. I didn't realize I had done that the first time, I was shooting everywhere looking for diamonds lol
BobTheFork
Member
I really felt like the levels in 1 were the right length, but there are more of them than in 2. In 2, I feel like I have to spend 30 or more beating a level and that's a bit much for me. I think I would prefer the same game content but in the previously smaller pieces. It get particularly annoying when you miss 1-2 diamonds and have to play the whole level over trying to find it.duckroll said:
BobTheFork
Member
I have to say I love the hunger suit for it's flaws because with the rocks there I suddenly feel like I'm playing Dig Dug or Mr. Do! again.El Rauha said:Definetly seems alot more challenging than the first one. I dislike the new Hunger suit, just for the lack of mobility
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Lol seriously. Gamers these days...duckroll said:
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
duckroll said:
I know that I'm in a pretty lonely camp but I like short games I can finish in a day. Pixeljunk Shooter was really testing my patience on some levels. I really felt that every single level was too long. I'd rather have half the size but twice the levels, that'd be perfect for me.
Maybe the problem lies entirely with me. I couldn't even finish Dead Nation because I was far more intrested in collecting loot than running through levels. Most levels took 45-60 minutes which made the game seem boring and drawn out. My guess is that I play these games at a lower pace than what the developers intended and I suffer because of that.
Well different people have different gaming habits and preferences. I was just curious as to why it was a negative.
Anyway, I just beat the game. Well, I beat the last stage anyway, don't have all the treasures, so no ending for me! Boo. After taking the time to study the patterns of the final boss, it wasn't that hard. Just a matter of executing the strategy right without getting overly excited or overwhelmed by the stuff it's throwing at you. Great fight imo.
I also managed to win another league match (which I bet on!), so I'm getting closer to Jupiter now. I'm convinced the league matchmaking servers are regioned now, which kinda sucks. I don't mind having regional matchmaking servers for better latency, but at least give us the option to select another server if we really want to. It blows when you're in a region which has way less players making it harder to get into games.
Anyway, I just beat the game. Well, I beat the last stage anyway, don't have all the treasures, so no ending for me! Boo. After taking the time to study the patterns of the final boss, it wasn't that hard. Just a matter of executing the strategy right without getting overly excited or overwhelmed by the stuff it's throwing at you. Great fight imo.
I also managed to win another league match (which I bet on!), so I'm getting closer to Jupiter now. I'm convinced the league matchmaking servers are regioned now, which kinda sucks. I don't mind having regional matchmaking servers for better latency, but at least give us the option to select another server if we really want to. It blows when you're in a region which has way less players making it harder to get into games.
It must be ping related, not region related. I'm from Australia, and I've only been able to play two league games: 1 vs another Australian, and 1 vs someone from Japan.duckroll said:I also managed to win another league match (which I bet on!), so I'm getting closer to Jupiter now. I'm convinced the league matchmaking servers are regioned now, which kinda sucks. I don't mind having regional matchmaking servers for better latency, but at least give us the option to select another server if we really want to. It blows when you're in a region which has way less players making it harder to get into games.
Sucks though. Yesterday I left it on for over an hour and didn't find a match.
Tntnnbltn said:
No, I think you misunderstand. The country that is displayed is the location of that person's PSN account. It has nothing to do with the version of Pixeljunk Shooter 2 being used, or the person's actual IP. I've played with people outside of Japan too but very rarely. I've gotten confirmation from one of the random people I played with that his region is Japan.
dylancuthbert twitter
Someone tell the neogaf shooter 2 thread that matching is based on ping times not regions
http://twitter.com/#!/dylancuthbert
Someone tell the neogaf shooter 2 thread that matching is based on ping times not regions
http://twitter.com/#!/dylancuthbert
Spotless Mind
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I haven't been matched into a single game. This fucking sucks. :/ I left it on for over an hour searching earlier and... nothing.
The single player is awesome though. Love the final episode and the light mechanic. Only got the last level left to complete.
The single player is awesome though. Love the final episode and the light mechanic. Only got the last level left to complete.
Perfected "Cold Quiet".
Five crystals Four crystals and one person no people left to collect.
When I played against TTP it was pretty laggy, but still I'd prefer that over not being able to play at all.
I'd like to see an option where if it can't find a match for you after X period of time, then it will match you with someone with a bad ping.Spotless Mind said:
When I played against TTP it was pretty laggy, but still I'd prefer that over not being able to play at all.
Noisepurge
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Spotless Mind said:
Yeah that doesn't work. If you can't get a match in 20 seconds restart the search.
Hey there, Dylan here (this is my lurker account but I thought it was about time I came clean so I can address queries directly).
There is some kind of bug in the match code and we are working hard to fix it - as other people say, if it doesn't match in 20-30 seconds pop out and back in again... quite often it will match immediately. If it takes 30+ seconds it probably ain't going to match you. (sorry!)
As someone kindly re-posted for me, the matching is based on skill and ping - with the skill search getting wider and wider if no-one is around. Ping is fairly lenient too - I was playing someone from russia today (beat him) without too much lag (and he was using the mic too).
If you haven't already, it's best to connect your ps3 directly and not via wi-fi if you are playing online games with it. We found this helped enormously.
Thanks for all the compliments and support - we put a lot of love into this and of course some people might not "get" where we are coming from with some of the design etc., but that isn't their fault as such and we can only design games and gauge by what we personally have fun with!
A lot of the reviews say there is more shooting in this and it is more difficult... but I find that amusing as I storm through the stages killing all the enemies in chained combos with hardly a shot
It is more challenging sure, but with the hugely strengthened barrage missiles and spin dash we balanced that out (or we certainly attempted to!).
Oh.. and even though I've been making this for a year and should be totally tired of it - hell, the online vs is bloody addictive!! I don't know about you all but I only realised these few days playing back to back with real players (not testers) that it really gives off that old school Spy vs Spy vibe. Spread the word, let's get people playing it, I think we've managed to create a truly unique fun and highly addictive vs mode here and there aren't many games that have taken it this far.
(I now see the other ship scanning around for me when I close my eyes at night... in the way I'd see tetris blocks falling in my eyelids in the early 90s )
There is some kind of bug in the match code and we are working hard to fix it - as other people say, if it doesn't match in 20-30 seconds pop out and back in again... quite often it will match immediately. If it takes 30+ seconds it probably ain't going to match you. (sorry!)
As someone kindly re-posted for me, the matching is based on skill and ping - with the skill search getting wider and wider if no-one is around. Ping is fairly lenient too - I was playing someone from russia today (beat him) without too much lag (and he was using the mic too).
If you haven't already, it's best to connect your ps3 directly and not via wi-fi if you are playing online games with it. We found this helped enormously.
Thanks for all the compliments and support - we put a lot of love into this and of course some people might not "get" where we are coming from with some of the design etc., but that isn't their fault as such and we can only design games and gauge by what we personally have fun with!
A lot of the reviews say there is more shooting in this and it is more difficult... but I find that amusing as I storm through the stages killing all the enemies in chained combos with hardly a shot
It is more challenging sure, but with the hugely strengthened barrage missiles and spin dash we balanced that out (or we certainly attempted to!).
Oh.. and even though I've been making this for a year and should be totally tired of it - hell, the online vs is bloody addictive!! I don't know about you all but I only realised these few days playing back to back with real players (not testers) that it really gives off that old school Spy vs Spy vibe. Spread the word, let's get people playing it, I think we've managed to create a truly unique fun and highly addictive vs mode here and there aren't many games that have taken it this far.
(I now see the other ship scanning around for me when I close my eyes at night... in the way I'd see tetris blocks falling in my eyelids in the early 90s
)Well, thanks for the clarification on the online. You guys have made a really good game, and as a fan of the original Pixeljunk Shooter, the sequel definitely lived up to and surpassed my expectations. Really hope you guys improve the online matching, because it's the only thing holding back the multiplayer mode, which is definitely very fun and addictive when it works.
As far as there being more "shooting", I think I personally equate shooters with two things, the first would be shooting to kill enemies, but the other is equally important: having to evade shots from enemies and learning to evade bullet patterns and other projectile attacks. As far as the latter goes, there's definitely a lot more of it in PJS2, and that's not a knock on the game at all. The puzzle elements and environmental stuff were already fleshed out and well established in the original, so I'm glad that the combat mechanics got the same treatment this time round to make it an even more complete package.
As far as there being more "shooting", I think I personally equate shooters with two things, the first would be shooting to kill enemies, but the other is equally important: having to evade shots from enemies and learning to evade bullet patterns and other projectile attacks. As far as the latter goes, there's definitely a lot more of it in PJS2, and that's not a knock on the game at all. The puzzle elements and environmental stuff were already fleshed out and well established in the original, so I'm glad that the combat mechanics got the same treatment this time round to make it an even more complete package.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
HiVision said:Thanks for all the compliments and support - we put a lot of love into this and of course some people might not "get" where we are coming from with some of the design etc., but that isn't their fault as such and we can only design games and gauge by what we personally have fun with!
I feel that this was almost directed at me, and that's cool. I get through the games alright, judging by the spacing of the trophies earned in the first game it took me little over 3 months to finish it. And that's a game people can burn through in less than a day, most likely.
MustacheBandit_
Member
man, you guys weren't kidding when you said this game was more challenging then the first! Having a blast though. I want to try out multiplayer but keep finding myself wanting to complete adventure mode first. I love me some pixeljunk games!
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Full Recovery said:
Where is it?
Also, what bout the last level? I'm missing a couple in there, too.
SolidusDave
Member
I think it wasn't mentioned yet, but just like S1, Shooter 2 has Home reward(s?).
You get the Player 1 ship for getting the One Small Step trophy (buying your first item in online mp).
in other news, I lost my first battle 2:1 ^^
I like that you can collect money during the matchmaking search
Also, kudos to Q-Games for keeping the support of all those firmware features neglected by most developers. Like previous releases, PJ Shooter 2 is equipped with XMB custom music, XMB screenshots as well as videorecording and youtube uploading.
I always wondered if the close contact to the PS3 firmware development is the reason for this.
You get the Player 1 ship for getting the One Small Step trophy (buying your first item in online mp).
in other news, I lost my first battle 2:1 ^^
I like that you can collect money during the matchmaking search
Also, kudos to Q-Games for keeping the support of all those firmware features neglected by most developers. Like previous releases, PJ Shooter 2 is equipped with XMB custom music, XMB screenshots as well as videorecording and youtube uploading.
I always wondered if the close contact to the PS3 firmware development is the reason for this.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
This game is too tough
Spotless Mind
Member
Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't having much luck connecting to anyone this way either, until i luckily ran into Tntnnbltn. Seems it will only connect me to fellow aussies based on ping, so i'll try again at a peak time here.HiVision said:
Good matches btw, Tnt. You slaughtered me.
The multiplayer is a lot of fun and surprisingly tense. I appreciate the amount of effort put in to make it feel unique and remain true to the single player. I see myself coming back to it often.
Lion Heart
Banned
I beat the game and also tried MP, the final boss was fucking awesome, I think it took me 30 minutes to beat. I dont know if I can go back and collect all the diamonds like I could in the original. The levels are just too long.
MP was great fun, didnt have much issues finding people either. The first game it was 2-2 and I was on offense for the final turn, I didnt know the rules and ended up putting a miner in the other players area, giving him the win. In the second game, the player went up 3-0 in the first turn. On my turn I couldnt find any miners, because I had to use the lava ball to reach the rest. By the time I figured it out it was too late and I lost. Third game I rocked the guy 5-0! So now I got the hang of it, its really addictive.
MP was great fun, didnt have much issues finding people either. The first game it was 2-2 and I was on offense for the final turn, I didnt know the rules and ended up putting a miner in the other players area, giving him the win. In the second game, the player went up 3-0 in the first turn. On my turn I couldnt find any miners, because I had to use the lava ball to reach the rest. By the time I figured it out it was too late and I lost. Third game I rocked the guy 5-0! So now I got the hang of it, its really addictive.
kinoki said:
Actually it wasn't directed at anyone - play it at your own pace, no need to rush.
Some tips - Spin+R3 is your friend and it will take out multiple enemies in a row, sometimes you need to do it again quickly if it is a tough enemy but you'll have fun destroying meanies like this.
Feel free to stand back a bit and just fire a barrage of missiles at enemies - we tuned this from Shooter 1 so you fire at least twice as many missiles and your heat gauge doesn't go up as much, so it is far more usable and a lot of fun! (it charges quicker too)
(just watch out for those poor survivors
)For bullet hell enemies and their patterns - well the grapple hook can be used to destroy the enemy if you get close enough, but otherwise the patterns are fixed (and their bullets aren't one-shot-kill, so just take it nice and steady and don't panic!!). Boss 5 is the same; the screen may be FULL of bullets but if you look you can see clear spots where the bullets don't go, aim for those and take your time. If you get hit, don't panic, just move to a safe spot and cool down.
My PSN ID's PixelMeister so be kind if you match against me
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