Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen

thebigkahuna said:
This thread is getting active. Seems the next gen. systems have us getting TV hungry again. I bought and returned a 65 inch 7100 Samsung thinking I'd save $800 over the F8000. What I didn't know about when I bought it was the "Samsung panel lottery" crap. I bought a Sharp panel inside a Samsung box and it had bad vertical banding and DSE. The 7100 should be a good TV but make sure you have access to the panel version (located on the side of the box) before you buy. If you want a Samsung panel,make sure it starts with TXXX. Now I'm vacillating between the F8000 and the plasma, F8500. I know the plasma has better picture quality by far over the LED but the input lag has me somewhat concerned. Samsung apparently fixed the input lag on the F8000 series and lowered it to a reported 20-30ms. Decisions, decisions.
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The 60" version, to my kbowledge is a Sharp panel branded as Samsung. I do love the picture for TV and Bluray so far, 3D is great, and I have not had banding, grid or pencil lines. I have noticed that the automation plus has turned on after I turned it off once or twice. I'm thinking firmware issue. I have the latest version, downloaded right away. As with all LED LCD I have gotten there is flashlighting to a degree, small degree in this case. That was to be expected. I have no complaints on the F7100.
 
LG 29EB93-P

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Is something like this worth the price? Or should I spend the money for the final Oculus Rift version?
 
Will I notice a difference between 47" and 50" when at home? I'm about 6-feet away from the TV. I'm thinking of returning my 47" even though I'd feel like an idiot with the reason being to get a bigger TV.

50" LED is about the limit I can get in my space. Even a plasma of the same size is a little too big.
 
Neuromancer said:
Is 8 feet about the recommended viewing distance for a 65" TV?
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THX recommended viewing distance for a 65" is 6' 5". But that's to provide the most immersive viewing experience. In general it's diagonal screen size divide by 0.84 gives viewing distance in inches. You could probably safely add a foot or two to that.

Canon said:
Will I notice a difference between 47" and 50" when at home? I'm about 6-feet away from the TV. I'm thinking of returning my 47" even though I'd feel like an idiot with the reason being to get a bigger TV.

50" LED is about the limit I can get in my space. Even a plasma of the same size is a little too big.
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As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the #1 source of buyer's remorse is going too small. Even if you get the 50" and think it seems really big you will quickly get used to it and wish you could go bigger. If you are able to return the 47" and get the 50", my opinion would be to go for it.
 
Would sitting closer to the 47" get rid of that problem? I could definitely move my couch a little closer, but maybe that's not the same...
 
Can anyone with a TC-P65VT60 confirm for me what kind of audio out it has?

Omlagus said:
THX recommended viewing distance for a 65" is 6' 5". But that's to provide the most immersive viewing experience. In general it's diagonal screen size divide by 0.84 gives viewing distance in inches. You could probably safely add a foot or two to that.
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OK thanks.
 
GAF i need some help. Have a $1,600 limit.

Don't care for 3D, Smart TV features, and looking for something at least 60+ inch.

Here are my top 3 picks.

1.Samsung PN64F5300 64-Inch 1080p 600Hz Plasma HDTV

2.Panasonic TC-P65S60 65-Inch 1080p 600Hz Plasma HDTV

3.VIZIO E701i-A3 70-inch 1080p 120Hz Razor LED Smart HDTV

Right now i'm leaning towards the Panasonic. But damn that Vizio is tempting. CNET gave it a pretty good review as well.

After some research that Samsung seems to be crap. So it's either the Panasonic or the Vizio.
 
After watching a movie on a GT30 plasma last night I realize how much I want great PQ. If I wasn't a gamer I'd jump all over plasma, but for a number of reasons, mainly because the ST60 has terrible input lag and because I still do a decent amount of 4:3, I'm going to grab a Sony 55" W900A... now to wait for a good sale...
 
astonish said:
After watching a movie on a GT30 plasma last night I realize how much I want great PQ. If I wasn't a gamer I'd jump all over plasma, but for a number of reasons, mainly because the ST60 has terrible input lag and because I still do a decent amount of 4:3, I'm going to grab a Sony 55" W900A... now to wait for a good sale...
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Im hoping the w900 can possibly drop a few hundred by November, maybe $1999...
 
Dead said:
Im hoping the w900 can possibly drop a few hundred by November, maybe $1999...
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I find the flagship models don't seem to budge as much as the mid/low tiers. I'd really love to grab one ASAP for GTA5 and the PS4 launch, but I may have to wait until black friday.

I'd love to get one here in Canada for $2200. I'm not sure the hassle of bringing one over the border is worth it.
 
astonish said:
I find the flagship models don't seem to budge as much as the mid/low tiers. I'd really love to grab one ASAP for GTA5 and the PS4 launch, but I may have to wait until black friday.

I'd love to get one here in Canada for $2200. I'm not sure the hassle of bringing one over the border is worth it.
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Sony seems to be the company that budges the least from what I've noticed...

Also picked out a new TV stand to go along with it, but that shit is also $1000, so ill take whatever drop I can get on the TV.
 
I have a 50" Samsung plasma from 4.5 years ago. Paid $1000 at BBY, open box. I am in the market to replace a 720p DLP and am satisfied with the plasma I do have. Do you think even the cheapest Viera plasma (1080p) will be as good or better than the older plasma I have?
 
astonish said:
I find the flagship models don't seem to budge as much as the mid/low tiers. I'd really love to grab one ASAP for GTA5 and the PS4 launch, but I may have to wait until black friday.

I'd love to get one here in Canada for $2200. I'm not sure the hassle of bringing one over the border is worth it.
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Well, last week during the FS VIP sale the 55" w900 was on sale for $2000 I believe so it's possible it might get there again.
 
Quick question about plasma and IR, I had my current LED TV on a channel for about 8 hours today. This channel does have a logo, so if I did the same thing with a top of the line Samsung or Panasonic plasma how long would I expect to see that image there? Also if I switch to another channel afterwards that has its logo in the same spot is that going to make it worse?
 
Hey so, I'm a poor college student looking for a TV to put in my room. Though it would be cheaper to go with a monitor, I'd also like to hook up a cable to it for just ESPN, AMC, all that jazz. I'm looking for no bigger than 32 inches (that's already probably too big) and somewhere near $200. Any thoughts/advice?

The one thing I've encountered is resolution...there seem to be a lot of 720p TVs floating around at this size. Would it be absolutely stupid of me to get a 720p TV in 2013? How much of a difference does that make when it's smaller than 32 inches?

Thanks TV GAF.
 
RoKKeR said:
Hey so, I'm a poor college student looking for a TV to put in my room. Though it would be cheaper to go with a monitor, I'd also like to hook up a cable to it for just ESPN, AMC, all that jazz. I'm looking for no bigger than 32 inches (that's already probably too big) and somewhere near $200. Any thoughts/advice?

The one thing I've encountered is resolution...there seem to be a lot of 720p TVs floating around at this size. Would it be absolutely stupid of me to get a 720p TV in 2013? How much of a difference does that make when it's smaller than 32 inches?

Thanks TV GAF.
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Not stupid at all to get a 720p HDTV this year, and with the recent announcement of Killer Instinct being natively 720p, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other next gen games are going to use this resolution as well. If you primarily game on PC, then I would recommend at least a 1080p set, but 720p is fine for consoles.

If you're looking for a low input lag 32" HDTV, some users in this thread and others have had great experiences with the Samsung UN32EH4003. Yes, it's 32", 720p and not fancy, but it gets the job done and it has an excellent input lag rating. Currently under $300 as well.

You can go for monitors in your price range as well, but a lot of them will be around 23-24", so I'm not sure if you're okay with that size.
 
Not necessarily about next gen gaming, but if one had enough money, and for a media room I wanted one big TV with two smaller TVs, how big should the big one be, and what size should the smaller two be? Just curious, anything would be appreciated!
 
Haha i feel like a fool. The s60 was a hot topic in this thread. Should have searched first!

Well gentlemen my 65' S60 should be here by Friday. My first plasma!
 
Four Wude said:
Not stupid at all to get a 720p HDTV this year, and with the recent announcement of Killer Instinct being natively 720p, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other next gen games are going to use this resolution as well. If you primarily game on PC, then I would recommend at least a 1080p set, but 720p is fine for consoles.

If you're looking for a low input lag 32" HDTV, some users in this thread and others have had great experiences with the Samsung UN32EH4003. Yes, it's 32", 720p and not fancy, but it gets the job done and it has an excellent input lag rating. Currently under $300 as well.

You can go for monitors in your price range as well, but a lot of them will be around 23-24", so I'm not sure if you're okay with that size.
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Great, thanks for the input. I should mention that my primary use for this TV will be my Xbox One and light cable use. I have a monitor for my PC at home. I'll definitely look into that Samsung you linked.

A question about upscaling. So I have my Xbox One plugged in and I've set the system settings to 720p, what happens when I fire up a 1080p game? Does it downsample from 1080p?
 
RoKKeR said:
Great, thanks for the input. I should mention that my primary use for this TV will be my Xbox One and light cable use. I have a monitor for my PC at home. I'll definitely look into that Samsung you linked.

A question about upscaling. So I have my Xbox One plugged in and I've set the system settings to 720p, what happens when I fire up a 1080p game? Does it downsample from 1080p?
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Yes. The console should natively handle all upscaling/downscaling independent of the TV. This is assuming it does it the same way the Xbox 360 does (using a dedicated scaler).
 
Is there a HUGE difference between the Sony KDL47W802A and the Sony KDL-55W905A? One is about 1k while the other goes for around $2,300. Huge price difference, is it worth to go with the 905A? I see the 802A is rated excellent when it comes to input lag and it's so much cheaper. Thanks in advance!
 
MastaKilla said:
Is there a HUGE difference between the Sony KDL47W802A and the Sony KDL-55W905A? One is about 1k while the other goes for around $2,300. Huge price difference, is it worth to go with the 905A? I see the 802A is rated excellent when it comes to input lag and it's so much cheaper. Thanks in advance!
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There will definitely be a picture quality increase with the W900A. You get a 240hz panel and local dimming, which will enhance your blacks (and therefore, your contrast). The color output of the W900A will also be superior to the W802A. If you're not picky about your picture quality and just want a decent 3D HDTV with low input lag, the W802A will be fine for your needs.
 
Welp, my LED TV just got burn-in. This is what happens when you buy an off brand 32' HDTV that only cost $200. I had this for a year now and I can't believe this has happened already. The burn-in is only noticeable when light colors show up like the PS3 menu for example. Not a huge issue but it's just disappointing.

Not sure if LCD's make a difference, but I have an LCD right next to it that was cheaper (cheaper then regular 26' HDTV's) and has lasted me 4 years now (and yes it was off-brand as well').

Next time I buy an HDTV I'm going LCD for sure.
 
Canon said:
Would sitting closer to the 47" get rid of that problem? I could definitely move my couch a little closer, but maybe that's not the same...
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Difference of recommended viewing distance between those two is only about 3.5". (47" tv is 4' 8", and 50" tv is ~5') So sitting closer to the 47" tv would get closer to that recommended viewing distance, so it would probably "feel" bigger. I'm assuming here both are 1080p tv's. If they are 720p and you get too close, you may end up being able to see the pixel structure, which could get annoying.

Gintoki313 said:
Welp, my LED TV just got burn-in. This is what happens when you buy an off brand 32' HDTV that only cost $200. I had this for a year now and I can't believe this has happened already. The burn-in is only noticeable when light colors show up like the PS3 menu for example. Not a huge issue but it's just disappointing.

Not sure if LCD's make a difference, but I have an LCD right next to it that was cheaper (cheaper then regular 26' HDTV's) and has lasted me 4 years now (and yes it was off-brand as well').

Next time I buy an HDTV I'm going LCD for sure.
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An LED tv is an LCD. The LED in the name only refers to the backlight source, and is not a different display technology. Strictly a marketing created term.
 
How much should I tip the Best Buy delivery guys when they bring my TV on Saturday? I believe they unbox it and put it on the stand but don't connect anything.
 
astonish said:
UGH! I guess I should sign up for that. I assume "VIP" is just some kind of email thing like the best buy thing is?
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No sign up necessary. FS VIP sales (and BB too) are just one day in-store sales. They do send out emails to those on the mailing lists, but it is also advertised on the sites and is in no way exclusive besides being in-store only.

Also, the new Samsung F8000 sets were $1000 off as well. The biggest sales were on the high-end sets.
 
I really wanted a lowish latency 3d Plasma, but it seems like (at least according to c-net) it's a tough find. I'm thinking about picking up that P50S60. It's just too good of a deal it seems.
 
EasyMode said:
Are you open to LCD or plasma, and is 3D a must? Budget?
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Well this would be my first 3D TV so I don't know what's really the best LCD,LED or plasma etc.. Yes, 3D is a must. I'm one of the few who actually like 3D. I have some games and 3D blu rays I want to try out. My budget would be around $1,500-$1,800. Thanks for the help. :D
 
Live Free or Die said:
Well this would be my first 3D TV so I don't know what's really the best LCD,LED or plasma etc.. Yes, 3D is a must. I'm one of the few who actually like 3D. I have some games and 3D blu rays I want to try out. My budget would be around $1,500-$1,800. Thanks for the help. :D
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Well apparently the 47" Sony W802A is on sale in the US for $1099.99 marked down from $1799.99. It's 1080p, 3D and comes with 4 3D glasses. It has very low input lag (among the best this year.) I can't comment on the quality of the 3D though.

Here's a review of the Euro version: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-kdl47w805a-201307043162.htm

There aren't too many 40-inch range 3D TVs it seems.

Edit: Apparently the entire W-Series is on sale at the Sony USA site. The 55" W900 is marked down by $1000.

2nd Edit: Also on sale at bestbuy.com which has free shipping.
47" W802A $1099.99
55" W802A $1,499.99
55" W900A $2,299.98
 
To my fellow Canadians, I just got the w802 marked down to $1019.58!

http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.p...acture=Sony Consumer Electronics&promoid=1628

Simply go to NCIX.com, and enter this coupon code (VIP code via email)
AVIP2013P02300

Then, print it out and go to Future Shop. Have them price match it by 10%!

This is cheaper than anywhere in America, and we hardly ever get TVs at the same price. If it's alright can I also post this in the canadian deals thread?
 
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