Night Hunter
Banned
I don't give a shit about 3D or tuners, so unless they fuck it up royally somehow the B7 is going to be my next TV
EDIT: But man, EU prices really are depressing. 3270€ for the 65" B6 here.
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I don't give a shit about 3D or tuners, so unless they fuck it up royally somehow the B7 is going to be my next TV
EDIT: But man, EU prices really are depressing. 3270€ for the 65" B6 here.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
So I just received a Samsung un40f6300. I'm in the calibration process and a quick question:
I can't seem to enable hdr+. It's a feature but it always says it can't be enabled. Anyone have any hot tips?
Thanks.
EDIT: Cleared it up. Had to reboot TV to accept settings changes. Got to play Shadow Warrior 2 in 4k with HDR. Looks great!
I can't seem to enable hdr+. It's a feature but it always says it can't be enabled. Anyone have any hot tips?
Thanks.
EDIT: Cleared it up. Had to reboot TV to accept settings changes. Got to play Shadow Warrior 2 in 4k with HDR. Looks great!
Backfoggen
Banned
It launched at 5999. Fucked up. I hope next years will launch at 4999 maximum.
Night Hunter
Banned
I didn't even know that they were that expensive in the beginning. Prices have almost been halved and they are still pretty expensive.
But after seeing one in person I can't imagine anything else for my next TV.
Insane Metal
Member
Went to a store to test my PS4 on a KU6500. Needless to say, the tv was set to Dynamic mode and image was horrible. I also didn't manage to get the PS4 online so I actually didn't play the games I wanted to play. I only had FF XV demo in hand and it looked ok I guess. But I ended up not getting it.
Plenty of people do, or at least get things shipped to a holding warehouse just over the border. It isn't always practical though, and not everyone can fit a large screen TV into their vehicle or want to deal with US warranties.
The last "big" US purchase I made was a Harmon Kardon receiver but it was DOA and I had to go through their US office to handle it. They were great to deal with, but I had to pay to ship it to Texas ($80) and then drive over the border to Buffalo to pick up the replacement. In the end, I could have got the same unit up here during Boxing week for basically the same that paid in the US, except I wouldn't have needed to wait two months to get it.
mmazurkiewicz
Member
yeh now that i think about it, when i lived in buffalo the malls had more canadians than americans.
I remember a news how the local in WA state complaining that there's quite a lot of BC plate on their mall lol this is when the dollar is on par.
holygeesus
Banned
Good luck buying any equipment in the UK next year! Glad I managed to get in on this generation, before Brexit. The B7 would have to be something really special to justify the upgrade from my B6.
dragos495
Member
joined the oled crowd today. settle on the 65" c6. got currys to price match richer sounds, so it came down from 2999 to 2699, pounds, that is...
helped another lady in the store to the same deal, as an early merry christmas!
main worries are: will it fit all the way in my loft, will the input lag be unbearable and will my hdmi 1.4 laptop have to be replaced? (im gonna use it as a monitor as well)
happy camper!
helped another lady in the store to the same deal, as an early merry christmas!
main worries are: will it fit all the way in my loft, will the input lag be unbearable and will my hdmi 1.4 laptop have to be replaced? (im gonna use it as a monitor as well)
happy camper!
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Jayz had a cool look on B6; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-os7g7GxwW4
Looks impressive. Still scared of burn in and premature lifespan!
Looks impressive. Still scared of burn in and premature lifespan!
I'm scared of aliens invading and killing us all some day.
Later Alligator
Member
holygeesus
Banned
There is no burn in. These sets are designed to combat IR every few hours when they are turned off. Lifespan cannot be determined on a tech so new. It's amazing the fud people just assume as true because they read about it online.
I don't understand, the UN40F6300 is a 1080p model from 2013
Any suggestions on getting TV's calibrated in North Jersey? I never bothered with professional calibration before, but now that I got some good TVs I'm toying around with it.
I googled some places here and got a couple quotes back. One guy came back at $720 for both TVs and the other came back at $900. That's a little much. Is there much difference to calibrating with apart from using someone else's settings? For example, I'm currently using Rtings settings for both TV's I own.
I have a LG 65E6P in the living room and a 55" KS8000 in the bedroom I'm looking to get done..
I googled some places here and got a couple quotes back. One guy came back at $720 for both TVs and the other came back at $900. That's a little much. Is there much difference to calibrating with apart from using someone else's settings? For example, I'm currently using Rtings settings for both TV's I own.
I have a LG 65E6P in the living room and a 55" KS8000 in the bedroom I'm looking to get done..
I'm excited! I guess I should had bought the 65" but I'm fine for the 55" for now.
Lol my brain legit went to work and changed currys into curvey's.
When I bought my rear projection HD display everyone was freaking out about burn-in. When I bought my plasma everyone was freaking out about burn-in. I never saw any on either, gaming or otherwise.
Not going to sweat it.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
Sorry, I goofed. Not so great at all these strings of random numbers and letters. Samsung UN40KU6300.
Does it, like amplify the HDR or something? I'm not understanding here. Why have fake HDR if the set has actual legit HDR?that is fake hdr. turn that shit off
In this sense, sets do not 'have' HDR, it is not a property intrinsic to the set. They can properly display an input signal with HDR metadata. HDR is something that is mastered on the content side, not something that your display does to content.
If you can understand panel lotteries exist for things like DSE, then an easy explanation for why calibration exists is because not every TV produced is created equally. Each TV may share similar characteristics like a blue saturation deficiency on an OLED55B6P, but how bad that is varies between sets. It might even have a unique trait where it's deficient in green saturation, but you'll never know unless you measure it. Any worthy professional calibration would grant you the best color accuracy your set is capable of. That's what calibration aims to achieve. And when you understand all that, you'll understand how pointless it is to borrow settings because of that.
If you're getting a professional calibration, look for ISF-certified calibrators on avsforum.com. Don't bother with Best Buy even if they have some of the lowest prices. The quality is too random. Just look at some of the ISF reports customers got from them.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
Yeah that's probably about right for good calibrations. This is using light meters to calibrate your specific set to the exact tolerances. It's a long and involved process that goes far beyond someone else's settings online and into the service menu and such.
Dialing a TV in really helps get a lifelike and awesome picture
ShroudOfFate
Member
Does anyone here have a Sony X850D that could give me some impressions or good settings for it?
I had a Samsung JU6700 but decided to sell it to get the 850 because it has better HDR and it's bigger.
I had a Samsung JU6700 but decided to sell it to get the 850 because it has better HDR and it's bigger.
Those prices are about right. Just be glad you didn't have to fly someone in from the West or East coast to the Midwest for a calibration, like I did for the first couple back in the day. Adding travel and room/board to a calibration is rough, even if you share the expense.
Aztechnology
Member
Which one do you guys think?
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Not sure about HDR+, but anytime your TV processes the image more, it typically adds lag
Are you sure you're using real HDR and not the fake variety? I've seen so many Samsung TV owners use the fake kind and fool themselves into thinking they're viewing HDR.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
Yeah, as folks a few posts up said, it is just like an emulated HDR setting for SDR users. I'm really not quite sure why they would put something like that in the device. Weird.
Aztechnology
Member
It shouldn't be called HDR at all, much less HDR+. I'm not sure what idiot on their marketing team though that that was a good idea.
Well, people see "HDR..." and think the TV will do what they need it to do, so then Samsung gets their money.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
I got a top of the line 60-inch LG Plasma 6 years ago, and I spend months and months researching, but I am telling you. Despite what everyone on AVS said about "there is no image retention / burn in, don't worry bro" it has been a pain in the ass ever since. OLED is not Plasma, but people fucking downplayed image retention on Plasma like a motherfucker and I am still salty and scared.
What does that have to do with OLED? Perhaps nothing, but I still am scared because these things are crazy expensive. Back then everyone was scared of dead pixels but not a lot of people are talking about that these days
Second one is cheaper and will get the job done just fine
It's about time TVs started having auto calibration like receivers do. Maybe using an optional meter or on higher end sets
DOT DASH DOT
Member
This is a real problem with OLED going forward though, if LG want to get that nit peak HDR up then they are probably going to have to run more volts to the screen, which in turn is going to have an impact on lifespan, unless of course they can figure something out, but like you say, no one will know till a couple of years down the line.
holygeesus
Banned
Exactly. Personally, I can't see them making massive advances with the next generation and keeping the prices so reasonable, especially here in the UK.
Theonik
Member
Many high end monitors come with colorimeter. Environmental sensors are also widely used but don't work that great. Display calibration is hard.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
yeah usually it requires a lot of trial and error and various setting changes to do it. Good calibrators know the displays and know how to get the most out of each one.
If a manufacturer got really consistent with their monitors, perhaps they could do something like that. It'd be a complicated problem to solve, and the expense of adding light meters to the box probably wouldn't be worth it for most people vs just hiring someone to come do it.
And again, there are varying levels. I'd wager most viewers are fine if they run through a calibration off a blu-ray or something. It'll be 80-85% of the way there and look good.
But there's something special about a full ISF calibration when a TV is hitting accurately. Looks lifelike
Goose_Se7en
Banned
Been looking into my KS9000 and it seems to have an AA02 panel. Was wondering which type of panel is it? Personally I hope it's an AU Optronics panel only because I prefer the better contrast ratio.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
From where?
Metalstrike
Member
Goose_Se7en
Banned
Thanks, yea I began to read up on the different panels today because I remember another Gaffer on the this thread I believe mentioning that Samsung outsourced some of their panels.
I think that was mainly the 60" people were concerned about.
No such thing as burn in anymore. Even on my 6 year old plasma which I abused, badly, for years.
There is image retention on OLEDs, but you have to really work to do it, and it's never permanent.
Exactly, yesterday I left the TV for like 10 minutes on a result screen of Sonic Generations (Which looks incredible on this thing in 4K) and I noticed some pattern on the display that stayed, but left like 20 seconds after starting to play again.