webkatt
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Ship it to SoCal and you have a deal!
Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen
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Ship it to SoCal and you have a deal!
The Lamonster
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Would this office desk (Ikea Bekant) be okay to use as a 65" TV stand?
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S79022792/
Max load is 220lb 7oz.
I have a matching corner-right desk and want to put a TV on a desk next to it for PC gaming.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S79022792/
Max load is 220lb 7oz.
I have a matching corner-right desk and want to put a TV on a desk next to it for PC gaming.
Dream tv right here and my initials are JS. Just need to figure out which JS series I can afford this year, already convinced and received the wife's approval
FreshCakes
Banned
Looking to buy a TV for my room, and was currently looking at this TV. Don't know much about what's a good TV or not, but this is what I was looking at:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-40-class-39-1-2-diag--led-1080p-hdtv-multi/8514177.p?id=1219343155772&skuId=8514177
thoughts?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-40-class-39-1-2-diag--led-1080p-hdtv-multi/8514177.p?id=1219343155772&skuId=8514177
thoughts?
Here are the expected prices for the 2015 LG OLEDs. (not for the faint of heart)
Can't wait for the reviews on the LG 65EF9500
Can't wait for the reviews on the LG 65EF9500
Will read this over, looks hawt.
If the pricing plays out similar to the EC9300 (which started at $5000) we could see those prices drop by as much $1500 a month after release. Which would be reasonable to me. At $5K for a 55" I'm not buying though... way too expensive.
Looks great but the curve might be a deal breaker for me. It doesn't look bad in the pictures but looking at the 2014 9000 model at Best Buy was bad. Seeing straight lines bend due the screen was irritating.
It will be interesting to see what improvements come with the One Connect Box upgrade for the 2014 models that support it. 4:4:4/60 with HDCP 2.2 and maybe improved lag.
Keeping an eye on the 65" 4K OLED but $8000 is too much for me. I was hoping for $5-6K. Maybe by Fall. If LG wants to sell these in volume then the price is going to have to drop quite a bit. Hopefully they are quoting the inflated MSRP pricing.
mitchman
Gold Member
Samsung reduced the input lag of my 4k TV to half of what it was launched with, now it's well below 40ms. It might even be lower now, I need to test with my Bodnar again soon. So yeah, they are taking it seriously at last. LG seems to follow suit too.
Interesting, Fry's Electronics here is now selling the 1080p OLED for $2.5K (in store only).
It seems unlikely to me LG is going to bring out a new 55" at double the cost of what you can get the old 1080p model now - no manufacture is charging that kind of premium for 4K.
So yeah, I think we will see the new sets quite a bit cheaper. $3500-4000 for the 55", and $5-6K for the 65" would be much more reasonable.
Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting a Sony Bravia kdl42w705b and I read in this in-depth review (http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kdl42w705b-201402233639.htm) of that TV that you have to tinker with the RGB (G-Gain and B-Gain specifically) to get a 'perfect' greyscale.
I don't know how to properly calibrate RGB so how should I do it?
I don't know how to properly calibrate RGB so how should I do it?
Terbinator
Member
I have the same TV - the offset settings are just in a menu.
Okay, but what values should I have?
Terbinator
Member
Oh I see. It really depends as every screen is slightly different.
If you can't get hold of a proper calibration kit then just tweak it as you see fit if the image looks funky.
The guy who reviewed the 50" model on AVforums uploaded the setting she used for the review so you could use them? Again, YMMV as every screen and environment is different.
Haint
Member
You use a spectrophotometer/colorimeter and calibration software, or hire a professional calibrator. Barring that, if you have a mobile device that is known to have fairly accurate factory calibration (e.g. Nexus 5, newer iPhones, newer non-Mini iPad, Retina Mini's might be ok with Grayscale, non-retina's were shit) you can pull up a 70% and 30% grayscale image on both, place them side by side, and match it by eye to surprisingly decent results. I have a i1 Display 3 and Calman and there was not much gained at all Vs. matching my Nexus 5 by eye.
I picked up an 8500 a few months ago and though I prefer my VT60, the Samsung is a fantastic set. No issues with IR or buzz. The brighter set is great in my folks' sunny living room.
If it's a better deal, I say go plasma!
WheelHoss1
Member
Totally. I play Destiny online and Dark Souls II PVP and don't use Game Mode and rarely if ever notice lag on my 8550.
Agent Unknown
Member
Thinking about possibly upgrading from my 7 1/2 year old Hitachi 1080 42inch plasma sometime next year to an LED. My plasma screen seems to finally be showing a touch of age and LED brightness just looks great. My only hesitations are worries about possible issues with input lag and dying pixels that I hear about occasionally and also seeming lack of s-video in current TVs. My plasma is currently the only TV I own and I use its s-video input with my SNES and Saturn. Do any of the latest generation of plasmas or LEDs come with s-video input? Which of the two do Wii U and PS4 look better on? Will my LED be quickly outdated by 4K? Any answers and advice on these points is greatly appreciated.
Mind clarifying? Been trying to get the most out of my set, I have a iPad air, iPhone 5s, Samsung galaxy s4. What pictures should I be pulling up on the TV and the iPad?
Haint
Member
Your set will have to have grayscale/white balance controls, usually labeled Red, Green, and Blue Cut or Bias (which controls the lower shades of gray) and Red, Green, and Blue Gain or Drive (which controls the higher end shades of grays/whites). Some sets allow you to adjust the Cuts and Drives across 10 or 20 points (you would do it for each step of gray in 10% or 5% increments respectively), some sets just gives you 1 point. If your set just gives you one point, you put a 70% gray pattern on both your TV and iPad simultaneously, side by side, and adjust the Red, Green, and Blue Drive/Gain on the TV until it most closely matches the iPad. Then you put up a 30% pattern and adjust the RGB Cut/Bias. If your set gives you 10 points, you can do 100% to 10% in 10% steps.
Here are some patterns you can use:
LCD's: http://minus.com/mrEFXtIKY6yRa
Plasmas: http://minus.com/mbdfig9hxj05Fu
You want to use window patterns instead of full fields on plasmas cause the ABL will shift white balance significantly.
The 8500 is in the showroom running all day with unknown hours and no remote for about $750. I might still pick it up if there was a way to check the hours and if I don't like the 700B.
Any reccomendations for a 500-550 tv? Uses are gaming and movies. 40" minimum (it's the reason I'm upgrading. I'm perfectly happy with my current 32" but I rearranged my room and now it's a too small lol), 1080p of course.
The thing I care about the most is picture quality honestly.
I don't give a crap about: audio quality (I have a good home theatre)
smart-tv (I'll hook it up to my PC, so really, any smart feature would be 100% useless to me)
3D (just not interested at all)
I'm not really input-lag sensitive, so unless it's really unbearable... For comparison my current TV it's a Samsung and I'm playing fine without game/pc mode enabled.
I remember looking at the Sony KDL-40W605B, but I didn't dig too much.
I would like being able to use 4:4:4 chroma subsampling without having to destroy PQ (my current tv can use it in PC mode, but if I use it changes and locks the pictures settings).
The thing I care about the most is picture quality honestly.
I don't give a crap about: audio quality (I have a good home theatre)
smart-tv (I'll hook it up to my PC, so really, any smart feature would be 100% useless to me)
3D (just not interested at all)
I'm not really input-lag sensitive, so unless it's really unbearable... For comparison my current TV it's a Samsung and I'm playing fine without game/pc mode enabled.
I remember looking at the Sony KDL-40W605B, but I didn't dig too much.
I would like being able to use 4:4:4 chroma subsampling without having to destroy PQ (my current tv can use it in PC mode, but if I use it changes and locks the pictures settings).
You get what you pay for. I'm sure it won't be hard to find the 55" for 4k or less in a few months. And I believe the 1080p model from last year will continue to be sold, and that goes for 3.5k right now.
Serpens007
Member
Looking for a new 40-42" TV, between the Sony KDL-40W605B and the LG 42LB6500 which one do you think is better for gaming?
LG one has 3D which is a good thing, and full Smart TV funcionality, but I've heard that Sony TV's are better for gaming.
LG one has 3D which is a good thing, and full Smart TV funcionality, but I've heard that Sony TV's are better for gaming.
They are pretty much the same with input lag. You probably won't find much of a difference for gaming between those two.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Well damn, there goes any hope of an 80" OLED next year for me. Max I can do is 6 - 8k, I was hoping it would be priced to compete in that space.
To be fair, that was a insane hope if you thought you could get a 80" OLED for 8K.
Actually the LG 55EC9300 going for $2400 with some of AVSforum's sponsors, but there are a few things keeping me away from that set. It's curved, lacks black frame insertion for motion and has bad input lag (46.7ms in game mode and 110ms in Expert or reference mode)
Pagusas
Elden Member
It wont be insane in a few years, I was just hoping maybe they were going to go aggressive right out the door. People said the same thing about 4k 80" LCD's, and yet they are already under 6k for a good screen and under 4k for a decent one.
if OLED hits mass production, I have a feeling we will see LCD like price dropping over the next 4 - 5 years.
A Gaffer tested the LG 55EC9300 with PC mode and Game mode on and got 29.6ms with the Bodnar tester.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=128006189#post128006189
JohnnyMoses
Banned
If they're similar to US versions, go with the Sony. It has better black levels and more natural color without being over saturated.
rokkerkory
Member
Crazy how tech is progressing!
I just got a sammy 65" 1080 LED set a few months ago so in 5 years I'll replace it with whatever's best for about $1500.
I just got a sammy 65" 1080 LED set a few months ago so in 5 years I'll replace it with whatever's best for about $1500.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Yea I feel you, just got a 2014 50ich KDL-W700B Bravia TV and now the 2015 Sony TVs will have android software support in them.
Terbinator
Member
I had an update come through today in the UK for my Sony W7. Can't find any patch notes though.
Excuse me for the dumb question, but your lag was reduced trough a update on the tv? Sorry im a real noob at this.
mitchman
Gold Member
Yes, a firmware upgrade. All TVs got auto-update of the firmware (aka the software of the TV), and it just so happened that they reduced the input lag significantly in one of the updates I got.
ACH1LL3US
Member
Can you let us know what the input lag is now on your Samsung 4k? Which model is it? Did you also test labeling input to PC to see the inpu lag numbers, thank you!
ACH1LL3US
Member
Yes I posted those numbers
The LG 55ec9300 is an excellent Oled for gaming !!
Where is it selling for $2400??!!
Yes I posted those numbers
The LG 55ec9300 is an excellent Oled for gaming !!
Where is it selling for $2400??!!
Cleveland Plasma on AVS is selling it for $2400. I expect the prices to go below 2K this year, especially after the new 4K models are released. Also best buy has it for $2999 now and you can use a mover's coupon to get it for $2699. Can you tell I've been flirting with the idea of using my tax return for this TV?
29ms of input lag on the LG 55ec9300 is not bad at all (less than 2 frames). It's really not a good time to purchase a "future proof" HDTV right now. The prices of the 2015 OLEDs are too expensive, unless you got money to blow.
Edit: The reason I say it's not a good time to purchase a future proof HDTV, because it's a transitional phase right now. You have to consider is that these 2015 models may not have HDMI 2.0 which would mean no Rec. 2020. I'm not sure about HDR. Let's not even get started on HDCP 2.2.
Blackvette94, is the judder/stuttering issue with LG 55ec9300 that obvious? I'm not always viewing my screen from the center, does the image get distorted/disproportionate from an off angle viewing?
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
I own the same model and can't find any patch notes on Sony's site or google. I also noticed this software update took away the pop my display had prior.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
So many Panasonic plasma has a really strange problem... it's zoomed in. And this isn't solved by changing the zoom level from the remote's zoom button.
Has this happened to anyone else?
Has this happened to anyone else?
Make sure it's in Size 1 in the advanced settings.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Quantum dot is still an LCD in nature, it will have all the same flaws just much better color reproduction. Contrast, Black Level, Motion, Light Bleeding, all are still going to be issues.
Lifejumper
Member
So I need to choose between a 3d television and a 4K television. I dont know which to choose...any advice?
Quantum dot simple because it's cheaper. It's plasma vs LCD all over again and price is no contest.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
I honestly could care less about any of those features at the moment but if I had to choose one or the other I would go with 4k. I primarily use my TV for console gaming and watching sports and neither hobbies support 3D and 4k on a mainstream level. There are a few Netflix shows and Sony Apps that support 3D and 4K content. I guess if you like to collect blurays and intend to buy 3D movies to utilize the feature you would have fun with it. Why do you need to choose between the two, why not buy a tv that supports both?