Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen

EASTC0AST_GH05T said:
I honestly could care less about any of those features at the moment but if I had to choose one or the other I would go with 4k. I primarily use my TV for console gaming and watching sports and neither hobbies support 3D and 4k on a mainstream level. There are a few Netflix shows and Sony Apps that support 3D and 4K content. I guess if you like to collect blurays and intend to buy 3D movies to utilize the feature you would have fun with it. Why do you need to choose between the two, why not buy a tv that supports both?
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Budget reasons, my tv searching skills suck :(

Im thinking about getting the: SONY KDL-50W815B or the SAMSUNG UE50HU6900S.

My budget is between 800-900 euros.
 
Just bought the Sony KDL-40W605B! Loving it so far.
Just one thing... Where is the color space (RGB Limited - Full) setting in the menu?

Edit: Tried to switch PC and PS3 between limited and full, and it looks like the TV sets itself accordingly. Looked for crushed blacks or whashed out colors and couldn't fine any.
 
bigb0ss said:
Cleveland Plasma on AVS is selling it for $2400. I expect the prices to go below 2K this year, especially after the new 4K models are released. Also best buy has it for $2999 now and you can use a mover's coupon to get it for $2699. Can you tell I've been flirting with the idea of using my tax return for this TV? :p

29ms of input lag on the LG 55ec9300 is not bad at all (less than 2 frames). It's really not a good time to purchase a "future proof" HDTV right now. The prices of the 2015 OLEDs are too expensive, unless you got money to blow.

Edit: The reason I say it's not a good time to purchase a future proof HDTV, because it's a transitional phase right now. You have to consider is that these 2015 models may not have HDMI 2.0 which would mean no Rec. 2020. I'm not sure about HDR. Let's not even get started on HDCP 2.2.

Blackvette94, is the judder/stuttering issue with LG 55ec9300 that obvious? I'm not always viewing my screen from the center, does the image get distorted/disproportionate from an off angle viewing?
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Apparently Microcenter has an instore coupon that brings the EC9300 down to $2K. Wish I had one nearby :( I think I'd jump on one at that price, not worth paying more than double for 4K.
 
Sony Rewards has the KDL55W950B for $960 (plus tax) worth of points for insiders (I think you need to have one of their credit cards). Still don't think I can convince my wife to let me upgrade though.
 
I was lucky enough to get the LG OLED 9800 for $2000 on sale at microcenter in September. As of today, they now have the newer model (9300) for $2000. This is an insane price. FYI for those interested and have one nearby.
 
Anyone has this tv: Sony KDL40W600B 40-Inch 1080p 60Hz Smart LED TV? How is it for gaming on a PS4? Do I have to make any adjustments to the display? And did you get it from amazon? Thanks in advance.
 
Pleasantly surprised with my Sony W950 speakers, got the wireless sub and was impressed enough I sold my soundbar. Really simple setup now.
 
WhiskerFrisker said:
Anyone has this tv:Sony KDL40W600B 40-Inch 1080p 60Hz Smart LED TV? How is it for gaming on a PS4? Do I have to make any adjustments to the display? And did you get it from amazon? Thanks in advance.
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Bought this TV on Friday. Pretty solid, great picture quality, and preset settings are solid out of the box, you might want to mess with black level settings if you don't like them.
 
WhiskerFrisker said:
Nice. I'm going to wait a bit because my current stand is too small for it.
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Sorry to say but I would NOT recommend it. After a while you might start seeing 50Hz panel and its motion blur. Like I did just today. Now I'm going to sell mine and get a cheap 100Hz screen.
 
delt31 said:
I was lucky enough to get the LG OLED 9800 for $2000 on sale at microcenter in September. As of today, they now have the newer model (9300) for $2000. This is an insane price. FYI for those interested and have one nearby.
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Is this just an instore price that isnt reflected with the online price?
 
mojo2 said:
Sorry to say but I would NOT recommend it. After a while you might start seeing 50Hz panel and its motion blur. Like I did just today. Now I'm going to sell mine and get a cheap 100Hz screen.
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I don't understand? I thought 60Hz are good for 59.9 fps content? The motion blur in a 50Hz display would negate that?
 
WhiskerFrisker said:
I don't understand? I thought 60Hz are good for 59.9 fps content? The motion blur in a 50Hz display would negate that?
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Yeah, sorry I was being unclear, it was night.

Motion blur is quite bad, see this: http://www.rtings.com/info/motion-blur-tvs
It's driving me crazy in PES 2015, camera is quite bad in the game (it moves late when directions change quicky) and with motion blur added I can't react fast enough. With "LED Motion Mode" it's bearable but the screen is flickering is bad and the screen goes too damn dark and leaves ghosts instead of blur.

I think I'll check out some plasmas :(
 
Rip said:
Is this just an instore price that isnt reflected with the online price?
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It's in store only. It shows for $3500 online, so I couldn't get it price matched. I'm pretty sure this TV can be had for 2000 everywhere this year. Here's the flyer for people with a microcenter near them and good luck.

Credit to kinglm at AVSForum

 
Great thing this thread has been bumped I'm actually wanting to purchase a new TV. But rather than asking you guys for the best on the market I want to know what measurements do you use to know which TVs are best?

Few pointers:

1. Product features, such as price, size, durability, etc. shouldn't be accounted for when making a purchase, I couldn't care less if a TC has 2 billion HDMI ports when another that functions better only has two, I simply care about the performance measurements or standards you guys use.

2. Likewise, I don't give two rats ass about "smart" features. I realize that a lot of TVs have them and I don't mind that they are included, They simply carry no weight for me, be it for or against.


3. LCD, Plasma, OLED, LED, etc. are all fair game.

Thanks guys.
 
bigb0ss said:
It's in store only. It shows for $3500 online, so I couldn't get it price matched. I'm pretty sure this TV can be had for 2000 everywhere this year. Here's the flyer for people with a microcenter near them and good luck.
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I hope so. Chances of the new 4K models dropping in price this year seem less likely now, there's some talk on AVS that the 2015 models won't even start hitting the UK until September. I don't know, but if production was humming along, I don't see why they'd wait that long considering the competition drops its new sets in late March - April.

https://www.avforums.com/video/lg-uk-4k-oled-tv.11248
 
Does anyone know the input lag on the Panasonic AX series? Looking at the AX800 as an alternative to OLED if LG doesn't come out with a better sound system in this year's model, plus it's half the cost. That is, assuming the AX800 has the same FALD as the AX900.

Edit: Seems it doesn't have FALD. Reading up on it now. Only the AX900 does I think. :(
We were pretty surprised to learn that the AX800 uses LED edge-lighting as opposed to a full-array backlighting. The TV’s local dimming capabilities, combined with whatever voodoo Panasonic has employed under the hood, are clearly advanced, because this TV looks good enough that it almost had us fooled. This has us wondering how much better the AX900 will look.
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I think it's in the 30ms input lag range (30ms by camera, 37 by leo bodnar), which isn't bad, but certainly not as good as Sony/LG's best sets with 17/18ms. But I can't seem to find a Sony/LG unit with FALD for the right price. I'm probably just stupid... A lot of Sony's sets have this:

Sony's exclusive X-tended Dynamic Range local dimming technology for up to 2x the brightness range with deeper blacks than before.
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Does that mean they do in fact have FALD, but are just trying to ham-fist their own moniker on it? Because under specs it says 'edge lit'.

Maybe this year's Panny AX series will have FALD. I've been with a panny plasma so long if they get their LED up to snuff I won't have to pop 4 grand on an OLED.

What's really maddening is all these manufacturers insisting on these huge pedestals/stands that run the entire width of the TV. My old panny plasma sits on a small round pedestal with a vertical support just fine. I don't want to wall mount my TV, but I also don't want to buy a new entertainment center long enough for a 55-60" TV stand.
 
magawolaz said:
Sony 55" KDL55W805 for €899... yay or nay? I'm looking for a tv around 55", I don't really care for 4K but I wouldn't mind 3D
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Used or new? If it's brand new that's a pretty good price.

delt31 said:
I was lucky enough to get the LG OLED 9800 for $2000 on sale at microcenter in September. As of today, they now have the newer model (9300) for $2000. This is an insane price. FYI for those interested and have one nearby.
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I can't find it for less than $2999 anywhere and they won't match microcenter since it's an in-store price.

I'd probably bite at $2000 even if I end up replacing it with a flat variant. Don't care for curved TVs.
 
Hey guys, I need some advice.
I would like to change my old TV (Sony 32W4000) and switch for a 50W705 since it seems to be a good TV for gaming with a low input lag (14ms).
Still I'm bit worried since one of my main hobby is fighting games (SF4, GGXrd,...), and I wonder if a 14ms is low enough. And it doesnt help that I cant find input lag value for my current 32W4000, so I cant really compare.

Is there by any chance someone here who bought a 50w705 and uses it to play fighting games, who would be kind enough to share his impressions?
 
Captainbob said:
Hey guys, I need some advice.
I would like to change my old TV (Sony 32W4000) and switch for a 50W705 since it seems it's a good TV for gaming with a low input lag (14ms).
Still I'm bit worried since one of my main hobby is fighting games (SF4, GGXrd,...), and I wonder if a 14ms is low enough. And it doesnt help that I cant find input lag value for my current 32W4000, so I cant really compare.

Is there by any chance someone here who bought a 50w705 and uses it to play fighting games, who would be kind enough to share his impressions?
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14ms input lag is almost magical when it comes to HD TVs. I think those very Sony Bravia models are the ones that set the record at somewhere around 12.4ms or something. I believe as far as fighting games are concerned, you'll be fine with that amount.
 
TronLight said:
Just bought the Sony KDL-40W605B! Loving it so far.
Just one thing... Where is the color space (RGB Limited - Full) setting in the menu?

Edit: Tried to switch PC and PS3 between limited and full, and it looks like the TV sets itself accordingly. Looked for crushed blacks or whashed out colors and couldn't fine any.
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Press the home button on the remote (not the options button!) -->settings --> display--> video input settings -->dynamic range
 
Gaf,

What's the best 32" 1080p television for gaming, preferably under $300? I have a very small living room, and a TV cabinet which limits my options to a 32". It's pretty hard to find some gaming relevant information for these budget level televisions, like input lag, etc. Anyway, I'm looking at the following sets right now:

LG Electronics 32LB5600 32-Inch 1080p 60Hz LED TV:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVLEM7K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Samsung UN32H5203 32-Inch 1080p 60Hz Smart LED TV:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K4UIO9K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

VIZIO M322i-B1 32-Inch 1080p Smart LED TV:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JJNA12Q/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Is any one of these clearly better than the others at gaming? Thanks in advance for your help, it is appreciated. :-)
 
Got this Polaroid 4k display for $369

http://www.brandsmartusa.com/Polaro...TFqaPz5VGhmGUyqv3DS93v0JnIufPt4J1l!-910787046

These images are from a cellphone excuse the quality..

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Lifejumper said:
So I need to choose between a 3d television and a 4K television. I dont know which to choose...any advice?
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Most 4K sets offer 3D, unless you're talking about Vizio :p

My advice, I wouldn't spend much on a TV right now because we're in a serious transition phase. The UHD feature set has not been finalized in practical use terms, so CE's don't even have an accurate target on what to support beyond resolution. That's especially true on the lower end.




DarkFlow said:
Quantum dot simple because it's cheaper. It's plasma vs LCD all over again and price is no contest.
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That's a confusing statement. Plasma was generally price competitive if not cheaper than LCD (when looking at relative performance), yet it lost. So price is not inherently a good indicator.
 
Raistlin said:
Most 4K sets offer 3D, unless you're talking about Vizio :p

My advice, I wouldn't spend much on a TV right now because we're in a serious transition phase. The UHD feature set has not been finalized in practical use terms, so CE's don't even have an accurate target on what to support beyond resolution. That's especially true on the lower end.





That's a confusing statement. Plasma was generally price competitive if not cheaper than LCD (when looking at relative performance), yet it lost. So price is not inherently a good indicator.
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LCD was always cheaper then plasma once you started getting bigger. Also the manufacturing cost for plasma was way higher.
 
Raistlin said:
Plasma was generally price competitive if not cheaper than LCD (when looking at relative performance)
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Your everyday average joe TV buyer doesn't know anything about "relative performance". They just go buy whichever cheap TV has the brightest, punchiest picture in the store. That TV was usually cheaper than plasma, too. This, along with longstanding rumors and fear of burn-in, is why they lost.
 
Looking for a 50"+ TV. The most important things for me are lag and Picture quality. Should I go with LG or Sony? They seem to to have the best rep when it comes to lag.
 
Zel3 said:
Looking for a 50"+ TV. The most important things for me are lag and Picture quality. Should I go with LG or Sony? They seem to to have the best rep when it comes to lag.
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If lag is super important, you can't touch the Sony 1080p sets. Nothing else comes close which also delivers decent picture quality. LG uses IPS which delivers inferior black levels to the VA panels Sony uses on most of their sets. Just don't buy one of the Sony sets which uses an LG IPS panel, that's got to be the worst booby prize ever.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
If lag is super important, you can't touch the Sony 1080p sets. Nothing else comes close which also delivers decent picture quality. LG uses IPS which delivers inferior black levels to the VA panels Sony uses on most of their sets. Just don't buy one of the Sony sets which uses an LG IPS panel, that's got to be the worst booby prize ever.
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So this is great for gaming?http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPMCO46/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I can't find good video reviews on it but it should be good, right?
 
I have a Loewe that came out in 2006-2007, small screen, not even 1080p but just 1080i etc.

should I get a new one? I mean, can I get a better TV now with let's say $500-600.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
If lag is super important, you can't touch the Sony 1080p sets. Nothing else comes close which also delivers decent picture quality. LG uses IPS which delivers inferior black levels to the VA panels Sony uses on most of their sets. Just don't buy one of the Sony sets which uses an LG IPS panel, that's got to be the worst booby prize ever.
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I actually have the IPS sony TV right now. It's a great TV, my friend has the 55" 900a so I can compare it to one of the best 1080p Tvs
 
Unknown Soldier said:
If lag is super important, you can't touch the Sony 1080p sets. Nothing else comes close which also delivers decent picture quality. LG uses IPS which delivers inferior black levels to the VA panels Sony uses on most of their sets. Just don't buy one of the Sony sets which uses an LG IPS panel, that's got to be the worst booby prize ever.
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Is the Sony w829 a good one than? I think it's IPS so I'm a little confused.
 
I picked up the Sony KDL55W700B (a Best Buy exclusive) a few weeks ago and highly recommend it. The input lag is nonexistent, picture is great, and the smart TV features (which I didn't plan on using at all) are really cool.

link
 
Xdrive05 said:
Gaf,

What's the best 32" 1080p television for gaming, preferably under $300? I have a very small living room, and a TV cabinet which limits my options to a 32". It's pretty hard to find some gaming relevant information for these budget level televisions, like input lag, etc. Anyway, I'm looking at the following sets right now:

LG Electronics 32LB5600 32-Inch 1080p 60Hz LED TV:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVLEM7K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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I picked up this tv but a size up for a mini replacement till the new bad ass state of the art tv's that are due out this year come.

It is absolutely brilliant for the price and its a pretty nifty TV. It will end up being the Wii U TV for my daughter when I upgrade later this year.
 
recklesscognition said:
Do TVs with smart features generally have longer lag? I'm tossing up the idea of either getting a smart vs a dumb one.
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Honestly the newer ones shouldn't be a problem at all. I have consoles that do everything a smart tv would for my needs (streaming) so I just picked a low end non smart tv.

The high end TV's you just cannot get away from the smart features at all.
 
bigb0ss said:
It's in store only. It shows for $3500 online, so I couldn't get it price matched. I'm pretty sure this TV can be had for 2000 everywhere this year. Here's the flyer for people with a microcenter near them and good luck.

Credit to kinglm at AVSForum

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Going off the website that 65" for $999 is this model. (Also, I couldn't find that post over there, do you know how to get that coupon?)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00II6VWAK/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I'm mainly looking for something reliable and a good price at this exact size. How does that compare to the Samsung UN65H6350?
 
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