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[Jigolo]

I have a Samsung F8500 plasma and a PS4, and I am wondering if I should set the PS4 to limited or full? I read it is based on TV type.

Thanks!

>search "full rgb" in google images in the PS4 web browser and there should be a few images you can test. Here is the most popular to use for example.

>Switch PS4 to "Full" and go back into the browser and view the images. If you can't see the all the black boxes your TV might not be full RGB compatible. If you can't see the first 2, "Full" is still perfectly okay but anymore than the first two you should set your PS4 to limited.

>If it's hard to see the boxes in "full" (like the whole first row or something along those lines) switch to limited.

Your TV likely has RGB settings as well but don't play with those just yet. Try it with your current settings. I think on Samsung TVs the RGB settings are under advanced settings and the actual setting is called "color space" with 2 toggles "Native" and "Auto".

That's when it gets a little tricky and you have to play with it but I'll tell you how I have mine set up.

For me I have my PS4 on "Full" and my Samsung TVs Color Space set to "Auto" and it works fine. Good luck

 

[OCD Guy]

On Samsung TVs the control you need to adjust is "black level". The low setting is 16-235 which corresponds to limited on the ps4, and the normal setting on Samsung is 0-255 which corresponds to full on the ps4.

Make sure the settings match, and use a utility like this http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html to set brightness and contrast correctly.

I personally wouldn't use something I found on google images as you've no way of knowing if the image is a reference image or not and you might be adjusting contrast and brightness pointlessly if the image is incorrect. If the image isn't reference and you've made adjustments according to that image it will throw everything out when you view other source material.

Use a reference image such as the free one in the avs link, or a spears and munsil disc etc and you'll be good to go.

 

[MrJames]

The The new LG EG9600 OLED sets will be getting limited HDR support. No mention of HDMI 2.0A so it looks like streaming only. Unless you can somehow stream a 1:1 UHD BD copy via digital bridge using the IP interface, it looks like no HDR Blu-ray. For $9,000 I would expect full support.

“OLED TV technology is perfectly suited to display HDR content based on its ability to deliver perfect black levels and infinite contrast. Once technical specifications for HDR are finalised, LG plans to provide a firmware upgrade for the LG EG9600 series which will support HDR content. This network update will enable consumers to enjoy HDR content streamed through LG’s Smart TV partner apps or delivered via other devices through the TV’s IP interface.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...led-tvs-to-get-high-dynamic-range-hdr-update/

 

[ParityBit]

Thanks a lot! I will give this a try tonight.

I have another question. Sometimes my TV will flicker a greenish sort of image and then the image will go away for a second, and come back. When this happens, the resolution display shows the HDMI channel and current resolution and all is back to normal. I am running the HDMI through my receiver. Any idea what could cause that?

 

[Yaari]

The The new LG EG9600 OLED sets will be getting limited HDR support. No mention of HDMI 2.0A so it looks like streaming only. Unless you can somehow stream a 1:1 UHD BD copy via digital bridge using the IP interface, it looks like no HDR Blu-ray. For $9,000 I would expect full support.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...led-tvs-to-get-high-dynamic-range-hdr-update/

Yeah I found out about that yesterday, but when I learned what it really ment (ie. no UHD BD), it was fairly dissappointing. Hopefully their flat TV later this year has full support.

On these other AV boards there are constant rumors about a Panasonic OLED but I just don't know what to make of things like that.

 

[MrJames]

On these other AV boards there are constant rumors about a Panasonic OLED but I just don't know what to make of things like that.

Not a rumor. Prototype was first shown at IFA last September.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-65-inch-oled-tv-review

 

[OCD Guy]

Thanks a lot! I will give this a try tonight.

I have another question. Sometimes my TV will flicker a greenish sort of image and then the image will go away for a second, and come back. When this happens, the resolution display shows the HDMI channel and current resolution and all is back to normal. I am running the HDMI through my receiver. Any idea what could cause that?

That sounds like symptoms of a hdmi hamdshake issue. How often does it happen? Does it happen under the same situations each time e.g just after switching to the source, or is it completely random? How long has it happened? Are cables all connected correctly?

 

[ParityBit]

That sounds like symptoms of a hdmi hamdshake issue. How often does it happen? Does it happen under the same situations each time e.g just after switching to the source, or is it completely random? How long has it happened? Are cables all connected correctly?

It changes interval. Sometimes it only happens once and sometimes it will happen 2-3 times per sitting.

It happens while doing normal viewing and is random as far as I can tell. I will flip to my PS4/Xbox/TV and at some point in the future it happens. I pause my game until it comes back in a couple seconds. So I could be in the middle of playing, just minding my own business and it will happen.

This has been happening for a couple months. It was not happening when I first bought the TV and setup the receiver and such. At least I do not remember it happening at first.

I believe all cables are connected correctly. I could try disconnecting some sources from the receiver and see what happens. Have only my PS4 and Cable connected. I could also try connecting straight to the TV I think. But then my setup is all screwed up.

 

[OCD Guy]

It changes interval. Sometimes it only happens once and sometimes it will happen 2-3 times per sitting.

It happens while doing normal viewing and is random as far as I can tell. I will flip to my PS4/Xbox/TV and at some point in the future it happens. I pause my game until it comes back in a couple seconds. So I could be in the middle of playing, just minding my own business and it will happen.

This has been happening for a couple months. It was not happening when I first bought the TV and setup the receiver and such. At least I do not remember it happening at first.

I believe all cables are connected correctly. I could try disconnecting some sources from the receiver and see what happens. Have only my PS4 and Cable connected. I could also try connecting straight to the TV I think. But then my setup is all screwed up.

Two things that I would do initially to troubleshoot is I'd try a new hdmi cable from the receiver to the tv.

I'd then also try connecting your sources directly to the tv to rule out whether the receiver is causing the issues.

 

[ParityBit]

Two things that I would do initially to troubleshoot is I'd try a new hdmi cable from the receiver to the tv.

I'd then also try connecting your sources directly to the tv to rule out whether the receiver is causing the issues.

I can try that. the HDMI cable switch is easy, and I guess I can try hooking my cable right to the TV while my son is watching it. I do not think he would care if the sound comes from the TV instead of the speakers.

I will disconnect everything from the TV except the cable box which I will plug into the first HDMI port.

 

[OCD Guy]

I can try that. the HDMI cable switch is easy, and I guess I can try hooking my cable right to the TV while my son is watching it. I do not think he would care if the sound comes from the TV instead of the speakers.

I will disconnect everything from the TV except the cable box which I will plug into the first HDMI port.

Yeah trying the new hdmi cable from the receiver to the tv is the easiest troubleshooting. That may even fix the issue.

If it still does it, then as I said try connecting the sources directly, if it no longer does it then you know the receiver is causing the issue, and there are things you can then do to troubleshoot the cause of the receiver.

But initially you need to ascertain what part in the chain is causing the issue, commonly handshake issues are never anything serious.

 

[Daviii]

The same applies to 4k, I'll be honest 4k streamed from Netflix is not better than a good quality blu ray. 4k blu rays is where we'll really see what 4k can do.

4k blu rays is where we'll ONLY see what 4k can do.

Anything else is unacceptable quality-wise. 4k streaming is stupid. No single benefit over a 1080p blu ray.

 

[ParityBit]

Yeah trying the new hdmi cable from the receiver to the tv is the easiest troubleshooting. That may even fix the issue.

If it still does it, then as I said try connecting the sources directly, if it no longer does it then you know the receiver is causing the issue, and there are things you can then do to troubleshoot the cause of the receiver.

But initially you need to ascertain what part in the chain is causing the issue, commonly handshake issues are never anything serious.

Thanks for the help. I will try this and let you know what I find out. I really hope it is not the TV. I paid too much and have not even had it a year. I wanted it to last 3-4 more years!

 

[OCD Guy]

4k blu rays is where we'll ONLY see what 4k can do.

Anything else is unacceptable quality-wise. 4k streaming is stupid. No single benefit over a 1080p blu ray.

Yeah you're right but the average person is happy with streaming. The big whoopee is apparently having access to 4k netflix on the tvs smart apps.

Some early 4k tvs don't even have 4k netflix access.

4k on Netflix is about the quality of a blu-ray.There's still obvious compression though.

Even 4k youtube videos are heavily compressed but it seems people are easily pleased as most people are wowed by watching these "high resolution" videos.

The average consumer that get's suckered into buying the latest fancy tv generally feeds it crappy source material anyway, and generally you feed a tv crap in, you get crap out.

I personally hate the push for 4k, I wish instead there was an emphasis to improve current source material to blu-ray quality. Most hd content that broadcasters send is terrible quality, and most content out there is still standard definition anyway.

Resolution is the last thing I look for in image quality, for me black levels, contrast ratio, color accuracy are much more important and can be seen from any viewing distance, that's why HDR is a more important feature for me than resolution, as the effect of resolution is really viewing distance dependent as to whether you can resolve all the detail.

 

[OCD Guy]

Thanks for the help. I will try this and let you know what I find out. I really hope it is not the TV. I paid too much and have not even had it a year. I wanted it to last 3-4 more years!

I doubt the tv will be at fault, but again if you haven't determined the cause by doing the other two steps the last resort is try a different hdmi input in your tv that your receiver is connected to to rule out a faulty hdmi input.

Generally hdmi handshake issues Which your symptoms describe are never normally anything serious.

 

[Yaari]

Not a rumor. Prototype was first shown at IFA last September.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-65-inch-oled-tv-review

Interesting. Must have missed it since I only started following the news actively in February of this year.

Hopefully they put it out on the market. It's not like it is within my budget but perhaps next year.

 

[ParityBit]

Ok I updated my black level. It was still bright so I adjusted my brightness using the test in Bloodborne. I put the slider in the middle ad then reduced the TV brightness from 70 to 40.

I actually need the torch to see inside a dark house. Big improvement!

Next is the HDMI issue...

 

[Haint]

Ok I updated my black level. It was still bright so I adjusted my brightness using the test in Bloodborne. I put the slider in the middle ad then reduced the TV brightness from 70 to 40.

I actually need the torch to see inside a dark house. Big improvement!

Next is the HDMI issue...

Bloodborne's gamma/brightness is fucked up, you definitely DO NOT want to use it as a calibration source for your TV's settings. The problem is the game, not your TV. As you're noting it's way too washed out default, even reducing the in-game slider to minimum won't deliver a proper signal. Using it to calibrate your TV's settings is going to make any other properly mastered game/movie/tv show way too dark with crushed details. My suspicion is, like MGS:Ground Zero's, they "Mastered" the game with an RGB mis-match. Why AAA Japanese studio's keep making this mistake is perhaps something that needs to be brought to Sony's attention.

 

[dmix90]

Is anyone there own Samsung UE55H8000, UN55H8000........or anything from this series? I really need your help. Please send an PM. Thanks in advance.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Couple questions about calibrating TVs:

1) Most guides say to pick the picture mode as "movie" or "cinema" as the first step, but if "game" is an option should I pick that and calibrate from there?

2) What's the difference between Game mode and PC mode, assuming a TV has both as an option?

 

[DJ Lushious]

Couple questions about calibrating TVs:

1) Most guides say to pick the picture mode as "movie" or "cinema" as the first step, but if "game" is an option should I pick that and calibrate from there?

You can. Nothing says you can't calibrate other inputs. Movie is always going to be a better starting input, though, because it is normally closer to being what calibration should be out of the box, as well as being the input labelled for content that is going to benefit the most from calibration. Movies/TV should look a certain way, due to the standardization and distinct look of video capture. Games don't have that.

 

[theSlacker]

You can. Nothing says you can't calibrate other inputs.

Well that also depends on the TV itself. Some sets lock out certain options depending on what mode it is in. Stupid, I know, but some still do it.

 

[DJ Lushious]

Well that also depends on the TV itself. Some sets lock out certain options depending on what mode it is in. Stupid, I know, but some still do it.

I can't imagine the premier models do this, but an interesting point.

 

[AstroLad]

I'm trying to get a sense -- is 75" too big for ~10.6' from TV? We have a 55 right now and it does feel rather small, but I plan on putting all my consoles on this one so don't necessarily want to 'front-row' experience. I've looked at various online calculators but they seem to focus more on screen size for getting the most out of your HD/4Kness rather than this issue.

 

[Ivan]

This panasonic's feature on 4k TVs is so good...can't believe others dont have it.

It's the only way for games.

On the other hand, their 4k TVs tend to have high to just ok input lag .

It's a strange situation, every advanced feature is on 4k tvs today, and a good 1080p tv with low input lag is really hard to find.

SONYs are there, but it would be nice to have a choice.

For example, on very popular W8 series, i find picture looking too soft and "not HD enough" when you turn off all the processing. When you have 1:1 native 1080p image and full pixel view selected, it's just not good enough for me.

I have an older 40" SONY from HX series and it looks much better in HD with everything off, night and day difference.

They made too many settings that affect sharpness available, sharpness, reality creation, edge enhancer and detail enhancer. I just cant set it right on W8.

 

[dolabla]

This is bothering me so bad, so I want to ask this question in this thread. Gaf Samsung owners/Gaf tv owners in general, what do you guys have your sharpness set to on a scale of 0-100 (or if you own a different brand, what is your tv's sharpness scale? And what do you have it set at?) on your tv's scale for gaming? FWIW, I have the 46" Samsung H7150.

It seems I can never reach a satisfying number. I bought a Spears and Munsil calibration disc and know how to use it, but the sharpness I come to (8/100) just looks so soft for gaming.

Do my eyes just need more time to adjust to this soft/smooth/blurrier looking image? Is a soft/smooth image like that even the correct setting for gaming? This whole sharpness setting has been such a headache for me.

 

[Ivan]

Samsung TVs tend to have some forced processing if you are not in PC mode (you need to rename your input to "PC" and select game mode for best results.

 

[e90Mark]

This is bothering me so bad, so I want to ask this question in this thread. Gaf Samsung owners/Gaf tv owners in general, what do you guys have your sharpness set to on a scale of 0-100 (or if you own a different brand, what is your tv's sharpness scale? And what do you have it set at?) on your tv's scale for gaming? FWIW, I have the 46" Samsung H7150.

It seems I can never reach a satisfying number. I bought a Spears and Munsil calibration disc and know how to use it, but the sharpness I come to (8/100) just looks so soft for gaming.

Do my eyes just need more time to adjust to this soft/smooth/blurrier looking image? Is a soft/smooth image like that even the correct setting for gaming? This whole sharpness setting has been such a headache for me.

I have a Sony W802a and my Sharpness is set at 48. I've seen other calibrations that called for like 10 sharpness and thought the picture was wayyy to soft. This is a scale out of 100.

 

[Prologue]

My parents own a JS9000 and I'd be lying if I said the upscaling wasn't good quality.

When I went round I took my PS4 with me and it did look good, the image infact is one of the best lcd displays I've seen.

And 4k footage was stunning, although cable which is what consists of the majority of their viewing looked average, the sd content looked very soft (to be expected) and the Hd was ok but that's partly down to the poor quality tv broadcasters class as high definition nowadays, and that is where the problem lies.

Content that is classed as HD from tv broadcasters is not great, and everything else e.g streaming services etc is heavily compressed. Even if we use netflix as an example, they are in my opinion the best provider of streamed content in terms of quality, 1080p stuff looks great, but you can clearly see the compression, and I've compared the same films on netflix and the blu ray and the difference is really obvious.

The same applies to 4k, I'll be honest 4k streamed from Netflix is not better than a good quality blu ray. 4k blu rays is where we'll really see what 4k can do.

This is what I'm struggling with at the moment, if I should just buy a 1080p oled or get a old 4k set this year. I'm moving into my own place and will be a student for 4 years, so its not like i'm going to have the money to invest in movies like that. I don't have a gaming PC and my internet connection is going to be in the 10-20 mbps range so I don't break the bank.

Maybe someone wiser should give their input?


Also, there was only one OLED at my best buy with a crappy source but samsung had a huge display looking pristine. Isn't oled the better tech or is this a marketing thing?

 

[hitgirl]

Saw pretty terrible burn in on the LG OLED this weekend.

The samsung JS does look pretty good, too bad the bezel is hideous.

 

[MrJames]

The samsung JS does look pretty good, too bad the bezel is hideous.

Another $500 price drop on the JS9500 is nice too.

 

[Fezan]

http://www.lg.com/sg/tvs/lg-42UB820T

Guys i am looking at this tv is it good. Its currently retailing for 750$

Or should i go for sony w600 or w800 series tv.

I am on a tight budget and only want to do gaming. What about lower brand tvs ?

 

[Fezan]

any help ?

 

[julrik]

This is bothering me so bad, so I want to ask this question in this thread. Gaf Samsung owners/Gaf tv owners in general, what do you guys have your sharpness set to on a scale of 0-100 (or if you own a different brand, what is your tv's sharpness scale? And what do you have it set at?) on your tv's scale for gaming? FWIW, I have the 46" Samsung H7150.

It seems I can never reach a satisfying number. I bought a Spears and Munsil calibration disc and know how to use it, but the sharpness I come to (8/100) just looks so soft for gaming.

Do my eyes just need more time to adjust to this soft/smooth/blurrier looking image? Is a soft/smooth image like that even the correct setting for gaming? This whole sharpness setting has been such a headache for me.

On my last three TVs (three different brands too - Samsung, Sony, Pioneer), I've opted for around 30/100 for gaming.

 

[theSlacker]

any help ?

Couldn't find much about the LG you are linking. You will not need 4k for gaming, and upscaling to that can cause additional input lag. Can't find the numbers for that one right now so not sure what it is at.

Personally I would go with the Sony 50w800b. It is under $700 new from Amazon right now and I enjoyed it when I had it. It broke within a year for me though and they just replaced it with some 4k tv that I didn't want. I'm still thinking about just buying it again before the 2015 model replaces it, if I can get someone to buy the replacement they sent me.

I don't have any experience with the w600b series.

 

[julrik]

Questions to people with Sony W800B.

- How is the black level?
- How is the screen uniformity? Any backlight bleeding, clouding, etc?

I have a Pioneer Kuro LX-5090, but I'm considering selling it and buying a W800B. Would that be terribly stupid?

Sony W805BBN is the correct one, right? Or is that a different set?

 

[BlizzyAzz]

any help ?

http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/sony/w600b/compare

Go for the Sony, it has a VA Panel (+contrast + black level - viewing angle) LG IPS Panel is basicly the other way around (-contrast - black level + viewing angle).

Samsung would be an alternative.

 

[JrBaconCheeseburger]

Here is my issue or question.

I have a 65" ZT60 Panasonic plasma but have lately considered going for a 4K TV.

Now back in the day I would have made gaming and lag the main concern but honestly these days I don't game as much and just don't want some terrible lag either.

(XBR-55X900) i had purchased this model but the lag was really bad even on game mode.

Can you recommend something??

 

[pettson3816]

Questions to people with Sony W800B.

- How is the black level?
- How is the screen uniformity? Any backlight bleeding, clouding, etc?

I have a Pioneer Kuro LX-5090, but I'm considering selling it and buying a W800B. Would that be terribly stupid?

Sony W805BBN is the correct one, right? Or is that a different set?

I have a Kuro 5090 in the living room and recently bought a w805B (not sure what the model is called in the US, i'm in Sweden) for the bed room. And maybe it's just my 5090 that has this, but i believe that my black levels has "worsened" (whats the word?) over the years, so the w805 actually has deeper blacks than the Kuro. And overall i think the picture is better on the Sony, though it's more "filmic" on the Kuro. I'm not a pro in any way but if i had to throw one of these tv's away it would definitely be the Kuro..

edit: I didn't get any clouding or backlight bleeding on my w805 at all, at least not so noticeable (Is that a word?) that it takes away from the experience whatsoever so i guess i should consider myself lucky since it's a pretty common problem no matter which LED you buy today.

 

[Shining]

I will be picking up the Sony 55w805b today. I will post impressions in the following days.

 

[Masterbrew]

Not a rumor. Prototype was first shown at IFA last September.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-65-inch-oled-tv-review

And the prototype impressed. I've read many tech bloggers who said it was the best image quality of the show. But I'm still doubtful Panasonic will manage to bring it to market, given the rough history other companies have had of that when it comes to OLEDs...

Saw pretty terrible burn in on the LG OLED this weekend.

The samsung JS does look pretty good, too bad the bezel is hideous.

I've had the LG OLED for more than a year and it is still burn-in free. I'm not surprised some stores are causing image retention (possibly burn-in) through carelessness.

I've had image retention after having somewhat static content on it for 8+ hours, but it was not permanent. 3-4 hours of screensavers (just a fullscreen apple tv screensaver) washed the retention away.

 

[BlizzyAzz]

Here is my issue or question.

I have a 65" ZT60 Panasonic plasma but have lately considered going for a 4K TV.

Now back in the day I would have made gaming and lag the main concern but honestly these days I don't game as much and just don't want some terrible lag either.

(XBR-55X900) i had purchased this model but the lag was really bad even on game mode.

Can you recommend something??

Maybe this will you give an orientation: http://www.rtings.com/info/input-lag-tvs

http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/vizio/p-series

http://www.rtings.com/reviews/tv/lcd-led/samsung/ju7100

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue65js9000-201503154027.htm

 

[Brakus]

The The new LG EG9600 OLED sets will be getting limited HDR support. No mention of HDMI 2.0A so it looks like streaming only. Unless you can somehow stream a 1:1 UHD BD copy via digital bridge using the IP interface, it looks like no HDR Blu-ray. For $9,000 I would expect full support.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...led-tvs-to-get-high-dynamic-range-hdr-update/

For that kind of cash it's just ridiculous, that it's not 2.0A, just another reason to wait until next May/June, i really believe it's just not the right year to go 4K, emerging standards and all that, next year will be the perfect storm, with the tech hitting the mark, and prices hitting a real sweet spot, now if LG can reduce the price of OLED a bit more, and lag times, then it could be glorious!

 

[junpei]

I am stuck on 3 TV that are contending for my living room . the power board on my lg ld42450 went last week and I am looking for a new TV . The LG had pretty low input lag in game mode and i am worry that it going to be hard to adjust to another TV .

So my budget is 1000 dollars and I've found these 3:

B and H has the 60 inch kdl60w850b for 1100$ with free shipping and no tax . Its really hard to find this dang TV the now that it is discontinued but was one of the best ones for 2014 .

My local best buy has the 55 inch Sony KDL55W700B for 710 ( plus tax ) but it was a store display . the sales lady said that it come with the manufacturer warranty but I am unsure of this one because of it mileage.Admittedly, the 55inch is kind of on the small side for me as I plan to do split screen gaming.

The last one is the 60inch Samsung UN60H6300 for 898( plus tax) at Sam's Club . the TV look pretty good but there is some sort of panel lottery that I have to content with in order to get the best one .plus the input lag is like 44 ms . I am used to about 22ms.

When it comes down to it, picture quality is what I'm most concerned about then input lag and finally price.

 

[theSlacker]

I am stuck on 3 TV that are contending for my living room . the power board on my lg ld42450 went last week and I am looking for a new TV . The LG had pretty low input lag in game mode and i am worry that it going to be hard to adjust to another TV .

So my budget is 1000 dollars and I've found these 3:

B and H has the 60 inch kdl60w850b for 1100$ with free shipping and no tax . Its really hard to find this dang TV the now that it is discontinued but was one of the best ones for 2014 .

My local best buy has the 55 inch Sony KDL55W700B for 710 ( plus tax ) but it was a store display . the sales lady said that it come with the manufacturer warranty but I am unsure of this one because of it mileage.Admittedly, the 55inch is kind of on the small side for me as I plan to do split screen gaming.

The last one is the 60inch Samsung UN60H6300 for 898( plus tax) at Sam's Club . the TV look pretty good but there is some sort of panel lottery that I have to content with in order to get the best one .plus the input lag is like 44 ms . I am used to about 22ms.

When it comes down to it, picture quality is what I'm most concerned about then input lag and finally price.

Assuming you are in the states, have you checked the amazon prices for each of the sets you are looking at? They normally have very good prices. Sometimes they are not the lowest ones listed since third party sellers undercut them, but if you have prime (may not even need prime) their return policies are great.

 

[Smokey]

At Best Buy yesterday...wife saw OLED and fell in love...have the green light for 4k version whenever we are ready woo

 

[hitgirl]

At Best Buy yesterday...wife saw OLED and fell in love...have the green light for 4k version whenever we are ready woo

I don't think that 4k oled supports newest hdmi spec. So you will run into problems with 4k gaming as a result, with your crazy PC setups.

 

[malfcn]

Any feedback on the 2015 vizio sets? They are mostly 4k now with local dimming.

How will 1080p and 900p etc content look? I'm guessing that are all up scaled.

 

[User 479360]

My biggest fear about buying a new TV is getting one with dead pixels and not being able to return it. I got lucky with my current one, as I've used it a lot over the last 8-9 years and it doesn't have one.

That fear has kept me from strongly considering buying another one, because I don't want any pixel issues. The way my OCD is, I would obsess over it/develop buyer's remorse and feel that it's broken because it's not perfect.

 

[DJ Lushious]

I bought the Samsung 65" JS9500 on Friday. I'm coming from a Kuro Elite Pro-111FD, for reference. The colors and the blacks on the set were gorgeous! I was surprised by how well it handled motion and Game mode was especially responsive. Except I didn't keep the TV.

For $5000, I just couldn't justify it. It also had one stuck red pixel ride in the center of the TV. For the money, I expected zero. Also, My receiver is about 5 years old now and doesn't handle 3D or 4K, so I'd wind up having to spend another $1000 to upgrade my AVR, and we all know this year's models aren't up to snuff with the HDMI specs, either.

The JS9500 doesn't tick all the boxes for UHD Blu-Rays and I felt being right in the middle of the specifications being announced, I'd be better of waiting until next year's models. In addition, the JS9500 does have some of the issues LCDs exhibit (some light bleed, blooming), which did take some adjustment. Hopefully, by next year, the OLED 4k panels will be cheaper, more manufacturers, and fit the specs for UHD. If not, then I know I can count on Samsung's flagship offering.

It was hard giving up the TV, that is for sure. All in all, 4k not withstanding, the JS9500 felt like a sidegrade to my Kuro than a true upgrade, picture quality wise.