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Just got the Sony Bravia X850D. Ordered the 55 in from bestbuy.com since stores don't have it in stock yet.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-x8...lack/4801600.p?id=1219824661812&skuId=4801600

Picture quality is absolutely incredible and the display has almost zero light bleed after thorough inspection. Android TV is really nice and the turn on TV by Chromecasting to it is sick. You can tell it has a slower CPU than my Shield Android TV though. Its still way better than my Samsung TV's OS and now I can move my Shield TV to that room. The only other con is Sony added some bloat but I can disable that in the Android settings.

Overall I am very happy with the picture and its great to finally have a TV that doesnt need 3rd party streaming devices hanging off it.

Edit: Has anyone tried the playstation on demand service built into these tvs? Is it ps3 games?
 
I decided to hold fire on my 4K tv purchase for now. The hilarious thing is the TV I wanted is now back in stock after months of no availability, but I want to see what this years TV's all offer.

I want to get at least a 65 inch 4K TV so happy to wait a few more months to see what features will be added.
 
I bought the 65" Samsung JS8500 when it was on sale for $1,999 last week. I had intended to wait for the 2016 models to role out and see what's what. But, I decided my TV is so old, anything I get is going to be a massive improvement. Who cares if something better comes along in a couple of months. I figured there's no way I'm getting a 2016 model that big for that price any time soon. I also had $255 in gift cards to Amazon. Can't fucking wait.

I scheduled the delivery for this Friday, but they didn't ship it until yesterday and says it won't arrive 'til next Thursday. Tempted to bitch at Amazon for taking a few days to ship, so it's missing my scheduled date by almost a week.
 
Just got the Sony Bravia X850D. Ordered the 55 in from bestbuy.com since stores don't have it in stock yet.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-x8...lack/4801600.p?id=1219824661812&skuId=4801600

Picture quality is absolutely incredible and the display has almost zero light bleed after thorough inspection. Android TV is really nice and the turn on TV by Chromecasting to it is sick. You can tell it has a slower CPU than my Shield Android TV though. Its still way better than my Samsung TV's OS and now I can move my Shield TV to that room. The only other con is Sony added some bloat but I can disable that in the Android settings.

Overall I am very happy with the picture and its great to finally have a TV that doesnt need 3rd party streaming devices hanging off it.

Edit: Has anyone tried the playstation on demand service built into these tvs? Is it ps3 games?

Ooooh nice! Still holding out hope for the 930D. Some recent impressions have been positive compared to the early ones. Otherwise, I'll be looking at the KS8500 next.
 
I bought the 65" Samsung JS8500 when it was on sale for $1,999 last week. I had intended to wait for the 2016 models to role out and see what's what. But, I decided my TV is so old, anything I get is going to be a massive improvement. Who cares if something better comes along in a couple of months. I figured there's no way I'm getting a 2016 model that big for that price any time soon. I also had $255 in gift cards to Amazon. Can't fucking wait.

I scheduled the delivery for this Friday, but they didn't ship it until yesterday and says it won't arrive 'til next Thursday. Tempted to bitch at Amazon for taking a few days to ship, so it's missing my scheduled date by almost a week.

I have this set and I've been pretty happy with it.
 
Decided to try out some of my Blu Rays on my Xbox One and EC9300 and I noticed how much grain there actually is. I am talking about the Bourne Trilogy, Lords of the Rings extended edition and I tried out Fellowship of the Ring disc, Hulk(Eric Bana) Transformers 2. None of them seem to be without the film grain filter, but the odd thing is when I use Netflix I truly never have grain with shows and movies. So this is a Blu Ray.... thing then?
 
Decided to try out some of my Blu Rays on my Xbox One and EC9300 and I noticed how much grain there actually is. I am talking about the Bourne Trilogy, Lords of the Rings extended edition and I tried out Fellowship of the Ring disc, Hulk(Eric Bana) Transformers 2. None of them seem to be without the film grain filter, but the odd thing is when I use Netflix I truly never have grain with shows and movies. So this is a Blu Ray.... thing then?

Speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix DNR's it out of existence so they can squeeze the bitrate down. Film grain doesn't compress gracefully.
 
That's a good thing then. I am not a fan of this grain at all, not in movies and not in games.

I use two different settings on my TV for movies and games. For games I have basically everything turned off and a bit more vibrant colors, for movies noise reduction on low and natural colors.
 
I bought the 65" Samsung JS8500 when it was on sale for $1,999 last week. I had intended to wait for the 2016 models to role out and see what's what. But, I decided my TV is so old, anything I get is going to be a massive improvement. Who cares if something better comes along in a couple of months. I figured there's no way I'm getting a 2016 model that big for that price any time soon. I also had $255 in gift cards to Amazon. Can't fucking wait.

I scheduled the delivery for this Friday, but they didn't ship it until yesterday and says it won't arrive 'til next Thursday. Tempted to bitch at Amazon for taking a few days to ship, so it's missing my scheduled date by almost a week.

I have the 9000 which is essentially the same panel. It's an amazing tv. You're in for a treat. I came from a pioneer kuro and while the blacks aren't quite as good, everything else is a huge step up. Love the TV.
 
Sorry if this has been answered a million times but searching just brought up too many results to comb through.

If I purchased a 4k monitor for my PC and played a game at 1920x1080 would I see any kind of image degradation? Like, would text be blurry or would I have any other issues when not playing at the native resolution?

I just bought a 4k TV and I'm fucking obsessed with 4k now.

Edit: To clarify, I have a 980ti and could play a lot of games at 4k 60fps, but for those games that the 980ti still isn't good enough for I'd want to dial it down to maintain 60.
 
I use two different settings on my TV for movies and games. For games I have basically everything turned off and a bit more vibrant colors, for movies noise reduction on low and natural colors.

Oh snap, stupid me. I didn't even try if the noise reduction would help at all. I always turn it off on default because it's absolutely awful for gaming. I will try this too.
 
Sorry if this has been answered a million times but searching just brought up too many results to comb through.

If I purchased a 4k monitor for my PC and played a game at 1920x1080 would I see any kind of image degradation? Like, would text be blurry or would I have any other issues when not playing at the native resolution?

I just bought a 4k TV and I'm fucking obsessed with 4k now.

Edit: To clarify, I have a 980ti and could play a lot of games at 4k 60fps, but for those games that the 980ti still isn't good enough for I'd want to dial it down to maintain 60.

In general "monitors" have notoriously awful scalers, and letting the GPU handle it is just as bad. By awful I mean unusable. I would defer to first hand experience though, the pixel density and even 4:1 scaling ratio may make 1080p to 4K not so bad. Excepting that, you might consider one of the 40" Class 4K TV's, assuming any of the 2016 models can do 4K, 4:4:4, 60 and ~20ms lag simultaneously. It requires some model specific digging to find that out though, the 2015's all had some trade offs and troubles I believe.
 
In general "monitors" have notoriously awful scalers, and letting the GPU handle it is just as bad. By awful I mean unusable. I would defer to first hand experience though, the pixel density and even 4:1 scaling ratio may make 1080p to 4K not so bad. Excepting that, you might consider one of the 40" Class 4K TV's, assuming any of the 2016 models can do 4K, 4:4:4, 60 and ~20ms lag simultaneously. It requires some model specific digging to find that out though, the 2015's all had some trade offs and troubles I believe.

Yeah I was afraid of that. It looks like I'm going to have to wait until the "next" 980ti.


I really want to play No Man's Sky in 4k..
 
So, I bitched at Amazon about my TV missing its scheduled delivery by almost a week. They said they contacted the shipper and they are trying their hardest to get it to me Monday (not bad if they pull that off making it only 1 business day late). They also refunded me $75. Gotta love Amazon.
 
I use two different settings on my TV for movies and games. For games I have basically everything turned off and a bit more vibrant colors, for movies noise reduction on low and natural colors.

So you mean the normal noise reduction or also or only Mpeg noise reduction? The first one does seem to help but if you go any higher I can really notice a weird screen smear effect.
 
So you mean the normal noise reduction or also or only Mpeg noise reduction? The first one does seem to help but if you go any higher I can really notice a weird screen smear effect.

Yeah I have the normal noise reduction on "low" for blu-ray movies. Everything else turned off. And for games everything turned off.
 
Sorry if this has been answered a million times but searching just brought up too many results to comb through.

If I purchased a 4k monitor for my PC and played a game at 1920x1080 would I see any kind of image degradation? Like, would text be blurry or would I have any other issues when not playing at the native resolution?

I just bought a 4k TV and I'm fucking obsessed with 4k now.

Edit: To clarify, I have a 980ti and could play a lot of games at 4k 60fps, but for those games that the 980ti still isn't good enough for I'd want to dial it down to maintain 60.

Hook the 980 ti to your 4K TV?
 
So, I bitched at Amazon about my TV missing its scheduled delivery by almost a week. They said they contacted the shipper and they are trying their hardest to get it to me Monday (not bad if they pull that off making it only 1 business day late). They also refunded me $75. Gotta love Amazon.

Yeah Amazon is the best. My OLED was supposed to come pristine in original packaging (open box from Warehouse Deals) but not only was the original box missing, but it had a dent on the side of the panel. I was scared to turn it on, but it didn't have any impact on the screen or image.

They wound up offering to have me ship it back or knock 10% off the price. I didn't want to ship it back even at their cost, as the tv is lovely otherwise. I was already getting a good deal on the open box, the extra made it a steal.
 
Decided to try out some of my Blu Rays on my Xbox One and EC9300 and I noticed how much grain there actually is. I am talking about the Bourne Trilogy, Lords of the Rings extended edition and I tried out Fellowship of the Ring disc, Hulk(Eric Bana) Transformers 2. None of them seem to be without the film grain filter, but the odd thing is when I use Netflix I truly never have grain with shows and movies. So this is a Blu Ray.... thing then?
What settings are you on?

An overly sharpened image can make grain look worse than it actually is.
 
How is the samsung js900 compraed to ju7500?
Which is bette for fonnecting my laptop to play on an hdtv?

They will both work fine. Each has low input lag and good upscalers. I owned the 65" JU7500 for a while.

JS9000

+ HDR Capability for the new Blu Rays
- Edge Lit, so potential for light leakage on the edges and corners but screen is more even (uniform)
- More Expensive

JU7500

+ Cheaper
- Rear Lit with large zones, so screen is less even (uniform) but usually no light leakage around edges
- No HDR capability
 
The 1080p model I bought last week is only available curved yes, but I don't even notice it anymore.

The 4k models are also available flat. And the new models will be flat except for the C6.

After looking at the curved, it is hard to look at the large flat screens. Especially if they are next to each other. The flat ones, just look, flat, lol. Where curved actually looks like it has depth. Your eyes are naturally curved, so it makes sense I suppose.

But at first I was not a fan of curved, but after several in-store looks, it feels more natural, and the peripheral vision is so much better, especially in FPS games. So I am either getting the 55" 9100, or the 55" 9500 4K. One of the reps in BBY said he would hook me up towards the end of this month if I waited, with an 'open box' for the 9500, also got a 2x rewards points coupon in an email the next day that expires 3/31, so perfect timing. And a ton of points.
 
They will both work fine. Each has low input lag and good upscalers. I owned the 65" JU7500 for a while.

JS9000

+ HDR Capability for the new Blu Rays
- Edge Lit, so potential for light leakage on the edges and corners but screen is more even (uniform)
- More Expensive

JU7500

+ Cheaper
- Rear Lit with large zones, so screen is less even (uniform) but usually no light leakage around edges
- No HDR capability

Thanks for the info, will check around a few more shops cuz so far I found the JS9000 for a little over $2500 or whereabouts.
 
After looking at the curved, it is hard to look at the large flat screens. Especially if they are next to each other. The flat ones, just look, flat, lol. Where curved actually looks like it has depth. Your eyes are naturally curved, so it makes sense I suppose.

But at first I was not a fan of curved, but after several in-store looks, it feels more natural, and the peripheral vision is so much better, especially in FPS games. So I am either getting the 55" 9100, or the 55" 9500 4K. One of the reps in BBY said he would hook me up towards the end of this month if I waited, with an 'open box' for the 9500, also got a 2x rewards points coupon in an email the next day that expires 3/31, so perfect timing. And a ton of points.
If you can get a 10% mover's coupon that could help too.

After 2 weeks with the 9100, I'm curious to see how the 4k will look. But a part of me doesn't even want to check it out because I am so happy with gaming on the 1080p set.

And I'm not even sure if I'd get a flat panel or a curved if they were the same price. The curve is pretty subtle on the OLED and I don't notice it when viewing anyway, so I don't see the issue with it even a little bit. At least, not unless you are going to hang it and don't have one of the special LG brackets.

At most, it's an unnecessary addition beyond aesthetic reasons. But it's not unwelcome, it's just benign to me.
 
If you can get a 10% mover's coupon that could help too.

After 2 weeks with the 9100, I'm curious to see how the 4k will look. But a part of me doesn't even want to check it out because I am so happy with gaming on the 1080p set.

And I'm not even sure if I'd get a flat panel or a curved if they were the same price. The curve is pretty subtle on the OLED and I don't notice it when viewing anyway, so I don't see the issue with it even a little bit. At least, not unless you are going to hang it and don't have one of the special LG brackets.

At most, it's an unnecessary addition beyond aesthetic reasons. But it's not unwelcome, it's just benign to me.

I will go to the post office, or see if I can print it out. Thanks for the tip.

Trust me, do not look at the 4K. The 1080p is glorious, and I may just settle with that one. But the 4K due to the pixel density is insane, almost like the AMOLED in the S6/7. And the 1080p on it still looks practically native (would be very hard to tell unless both were next to each other, and even then pixel density would play a role). I was stunned.

And you are right, probably why I liked the OLED curved more than the Samsung ones, was due to it being more subtle and not 'too much'. Also it works in the corner where it is going on the stand that is currently there, as well as the aesthetics flow of the room.
 
I know this thread is about tvs, but when is Creed supposed to come out on 4K BD? Are any other 4k bluray players supposed to be released anytime soon?
 
Some tvs on Slickdeals's front page again, including the $1299 9100 OLED.

It is that pricing that makes it hard pressed to not order it. It is infinitely worth it compared to LED models in the same price range at Best Buy.

I may just have to bite on it, if I cannot smooth talk BBY into a price match on the phone.

Too good of a deal.
 
I know this thread is about tvs, but when is Creed supposed to come out on 4K BD? Are any other 4k bluray players supposed to be released anytime soon?

The only other players announced are from Panasonic and Phillips. Panasonic is launching in Europe first around April but no announcement yet for the US. The Phillips model is expected around late May or June.

A French site is listing Creed with a 5/18 release there so expect it in the US around that time or maybe a little sooner.
 
Simply coming to post that i finally jump on a Sony Bravia R550c, and jesus, i just return it one day later. I havent seen a tv degrade over its viewing angle that much in my life. When u stick in front of it, its amazing, but the second your like 15 degree of center, the colors, brightness,fade.

Im still not sold on LED tv, never tough this would that much of a problem. My old LG LCD never lost any color or clarity when moving from an angle. Perhaps they are better LED, but i guesss ill wait for this generation of TV to get better. Its sure does an amazing job when standing right in front of it for games, but im so dissapointed for what it did to movies. I just dont understand why my 2008 model tv does a better job for brightness, blacks, viewing angle. I tough it wouldnt be an issue, knowong i was doing an upgrade. Hum, was wrong.
 
There are far better LED's with viewing angles, especially IPS panels. With that said nothing at the moment tops OLED with both PQ and viewing angles which are pretty much on point with CRT.
 
Guess im going to wait for OLED to be more affordable and available in size im seeking. Rtings just seem to have review 4 oled so far, guess there starting to be on the market.
 
There are far better LED's with viewing angles, especially IPS panels. With that said nothing at the moment tops OLED with both PQ and viewing angles which are pretty much on point with CRT.
IPS panels have decent viewing angles but even the best have absolutely abysmal black levels.
 
IPS panels have decent viewing angles but even the best have absolutely abysmal black levels.

Agreed. But abysmal in comparison. In your home they do a good job when you are not comparing it next to VA or OLED sets.

They are also far better than they were years ago. I was just pointing out there are better panels and angles than the model he viewed.

Guess im going to wait for OLED to be more affordable and available in size im seeking. Rtings just seem to have review 4 oled so far, guess there starting to be on the market.

Rumor has it Samsung is jumping back and as well as Sony. So that hopefully will drive the prices down. They sure are gorgeous.
 
Agreed. But abysmal in comparison. In your home they do a good job when you are not comparing it next to VA or OLED sets.

They are also far better than they were years ago. I was just pointing out there are better panels and angles than the model he viewed.



Rumor has it Samsung is jumping back and as well as Sony. So that hopefully will drive the prices down. They sure are gorgeous.

Yeah there is for sure, but when im sorting by viewing angle http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/living-room/viewing-angle , i check every top model, and they either have poor black , contrast or average input lag, etc. Its probable the reason i might hold another year or two and get something . I just expect to be blowned away, even by an average. I was. When standing in front, it was so damn bright, and games were looking really nice, but start to make adjustment for movies and high def cable tv, was never on spot with my old LG lcd.

Cant wait then to see Samsung and Sony jumping in. But i guess ill be more patient.
 
Yeah there is for sure, but when im sorting by viewing angle http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/living-room/viewing-angle , i check every top model, and they either have poor black , contrast or average. Its probable the reason i might hold another year or two and get something .

Funny thing is, in comparison with other panels on that site is what makes it more apparent.

I went into Best Buy and saw the X830C 4K by Sony (the 43"/49" IPS panel) and the blacks still looked great. I have an AOC IPS monitor the PS4 is currently hooked up to, and the blacks looks great.

Now if I sit the TV or monitor next to a VA or OLED, then of course they are not going to look as good, however, in your home, they did come a long way. I was actually quite impressed with the X830C model, and contemplated getting it since the price was very good, the angles were good, the PQ was great, and the blacks were not as bad as rtings.com made it out to be when it stood on it's own.

They use a software tool to measure, so against the other sets it will get a lower score, but in person, I was very content with it.

I am going with the LG OLED this month ultimately, but I seriously almost walked out with the X830C, because the price was fantastic, and the PQ was very good.
 
Hey everyone. So I own this Sharp LED

Sharp LC-60EQ10U 60-Inch Aquos Q 1080p 240Hz Smart LED TV (2014 Model) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HZZZM1A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

But am only now hooking my Xbox One up to it (it was in another room while we were redoing some stuff in the house). I'm not too aware of all the things you guys are talking about in this thread, so here are my questions: is this TV any good for gaming, and what settings should I put it on for the best picture? Thanks.
 
Funny thing is, in comparison with other panels on that site is what makes it more apparent.

I went into Best Buy and saw the X830C 4K by Sony (the 43"/49" IPS panel) and the blacks still looked great. I have an AOC IPS monitor the PS4 is currently hooked up to, and the blacks looks great.

Now if I sit the TV or monitor next to a VA or OLED, then of course they are not going to look as good, however, in your home, they did come a long way. I was actually quite impressed with the X830C model, and contemplated getting it since the price was very good, the angles were good, the PQ was great, and the blacks were not as bad as rtings.com made it out to be when it stood on it's own.

They use a software tool to measure, so against the other sets it will get a lower score, but in person, I was very content with it.

I am going with the LG OLED this month ultimately, but I seriously almost walked out with the X830C, because the price was fantastic, and the PQ was very good.

Yeah sometime im thinking that rtings are a bit too critics on tv, was saying to myself it cannot be that bad. I checked the r510 model for similar reviews for the r550, notice this motion angle thing and average review from movie,,but in store when i look at it, for me it was looking really great. But they were spot on in what they said with the tv in my house. Never tough angle viewing was gonna be that bad and never tough black level would be worst than my Lcd LG 42lb4d, bough like 8-9 years ago. I seriously take what they say about tvs now. My first choice was the samsung j6200, but was scared of the quality of 720p content ( cable tv even if displayed in 1080, it can sometime be shot in 720p, was scare to be disappointed with the sharpess of canlecontent ) . Maybe i would have been better serve with the j6200, but im going to wait. Im not sold on samsung quality in term of resistance over time.

Good luck with your oled set, hope you will enjoy it!
 
Yeah sometime im thinking that rtings are a bit too critics on tv, was saying to myself it cannot be that bad. I checked the r510 model for similar reviews for the r550, notice this motion angle thing and average review from movie,,but in store when i look at it, for me it was looking really great. But they were spot on in what they said with the tv in my house. Never tough angle viewing was gonna be that bad and never tough black level would be worst than my Lcd LG 42lb4d, bough like 8-9 years ago. I seriously take what they say about tvs now. My first choice was the samsung j6200, but was scared of the quality of 720p content ( cable tv even if displayed in 1080, it can sometime be shot in 720p, was scare to be disappointed with the sharpess of canlecontent ) . Maybe i would have been better serve with the j6200, but im going to wait. Im not sold on samsung quality in term of resistance over time.

Good luck with your oled set, hope you will enjoy it!

Yeah, pretty much nailed it where you ultimately have to see for yourself. I am also going into it with the train of thought, that I have not picked up a new TV since my Phillips 1080p stopped turning on 4 years ago, and I did not want to spend the money to replace the inverter board, only to have it happen again (I guess common on them).

So being out of the TV market and content with monitor gaming, all the new products look great to me, lol.

If I can get BBY to budge on the price to match online, I will get the LG there. If not, the Slick Deals postings all the time are too sweet to pass up ordering online. And I can still get a nice full coverage, no deductible and transferable warranty for just as cheap as BBY.
 
I'm torn between waiting for the EF9500 LG OLED (still not available in my country) or buying now the Samsung JS9500. The Curved LG EG9600 is available but I read it doesn't support HDMI 2.0A and cannot be upgraded.

Any suggestions?
 
It's hard to say really. I am biased and will always say OLED instead of settling for LED. The best flagship LED can't compete with even the worst OLED in terms of image quality.
 
I have been looking to purchase LED somewhere between 43-50' , I did a research on several TV's and found below, can you guys suggest.

1. Sony

- Great Picture and Sound in 2015-16 models
- Low input Lag and Motion Blur
- Most Expensive
- Android is still WIP

2. LG

- Best OS (But does it actually matters ?)
- Quality Picture match-able to Sony
- Great Performance vs Cost
- High Input Lag
- Heard stories of TV failing after 2-3 years

3. Samsung

- Good Picture
- Input Lag average
- Input models available

4. Panasonic

- Great Picture
- Support is iffy
- Cheaper

I'm looking for only 1080p as 4k is expensive and not yet ready for market.I'm from India and not everything which is mentioned in rtings.com are available here we have very limited models and at times some companies dump there models here.Gaming on PS4 and with PC with GTX 970.I'm still 1.5 month away from my purchase as I'm waiting LG to launch there 2016 lineups unfortunately most companies have jumped on 4K so hardly 2-3 1080p models, sony even re-hashed there 2015 models for 2016
 
I have been looking to purchase LED somewhere between 43-50' , I did a research on several TV's and found below, can you guys suggest.

1. Sony

- Great Picture and Sound in 2015-16 models
- Low input Lag and Motion Blur
- Most Expensive
- Android is still WIP

2. LG

- Best OS (But does it actually matters ?)
- Quality Picture match-able to Sony
- Great Performance vs Cost
- High Input Lag
- Heard stories of TV failing after 2-3 years

3. Samsung

- Good Picture
- Input Lag average
- Input models available

4. Panasonic

- Great Picture
- Support is iffy
- Cheaper

I'm looking for only 1080p as 4k is expensive and not yet ready for market.I'm from India and not everything which is mentioned in rtings.com are available here we have very limited models and at times some companies dump there models here.Gaming on PS4 and with PC with GTX 970.I'm still 1.5 month away from my purchase as I'm waiting LG to launch there 2016 lineups unfortunately most companies have jumped on 4K so hardly 2-3 1080p models, sony even re-hashed there 2015 models for 2016

I don't see how Android TV is work in progress. Sony did a bad job porting Android TV to their Bravia line in the beginning but I can tell you now that they have definitively improved. I have one of the brand new 2016 Sony's and a Shield Android TV and the Android OS has been great. The fact that it has the playstore and built in Chromecast puts the Android OS far past the others. It also has voice dictation that is far beyond anything you will see from the competition as well. Keep in mind you are getting google's database with Android TV when you are voice searching.

The Android ecosystem is huge and it takes very little effort to get an existing Android phone app to run on Android TV. Also, Android TV apps are written in Java which is better suited for higher performing apps/games unlike the web technologies used for Tizen/WebOS apps. It will have way more app growth than the others because of this.

Here are some pics from my Bravia X850D 55 inch which I just picked up on Bestbuy.com on sale for 1,600. The picture is stunning.

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