RetroGamingUK
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So would this handheld basically play all PS5 games and PS5 games only?
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kevboard
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compatible PS5 games, yes.
older titles would need a patch, newer titles will come with the handheld mode by default. that's what it seems like
HeisenbergFX4
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Since its going to launch very close with the PS6 it will be curious to see if PS6 has any exclusive games and what this handheld will do with those games
And have no idea either, I am not implying anything as I will be curious as well
RetroGamingUK
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I just don't like the idea of it being able to play PS6 games
1. It'll create a Series S situation
2. Compatibility and branding needs to be simple, call it "PS5 Portable"
3. PS5 will get cross-gen games 4 years after PS6 comes out
4. PS5 will get indies for years after that
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HeisenbergFX4
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The biggest issue with the Series S is the forced parity
RetroGamingUK
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Xbox Series is a console though, things have to be kept simple, all games must run on all models.
You can't have a situation where games run on a case by case basis, nor can the likes of Sony and Nintendo juggle 2 different platforms anymore (home and handheld).
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IFireflyl
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Launching a PS5 portable when the PS6 comes out is a surefire way to make sure the device fails.
Mandating that developers support the handheld device with feature-parity is the same issue I had with the Xbox Series S, and that hamstrings games on the more powerful consoles. If Sony does this, then they deserve backlash.
Personally, I think it would be smarter for Sony to release the PlayStation Portable 2 (PSP2) as a standalone device like the original PSP was, and let companies make games specifically for that device as they want. They can release a PSP2 version of an existing PS5/PS6 game if they want, or they can release PSP2 exclusive games.
It will be interesting to see how Sony handles this.
RetroGamingUK
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DOA
It's not the mid 00s anymore where games take a couple of years to make and Sony can support both PSP and PS3
Sony couldn't support PSVita and PS4, and Nintendo couldn't support Wii U and 3DS.
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IFireflyl
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I disagree. Your point about increased development cycles is valid, but Sony supporting the PSP2 and the PS6 isn't some herculean task. When third-party developers can support XSS, XSX, NS, PS5, PS5 Pro, and PC releases simultaneously, why would you think it would be any different for a PSP2? The main game is made for platform 1. Then the developers port the game to platforms 2, 3, 4, et cetera. A port is less work than initial development. Both Sony and third-party developers could port games to the PSP2 with relative ease (unless Sony really bungles this like they did with the PS3).
Additionally, third-party developers could target the PSP2 specifically. Not every game has to be a AAA or AAAA title. The PSP2 could be a powerhouse for indie titles, and it would be a perfect fit for 2D-HD titles. This kind of device could allow developers to introduce some more creativity into their games. Too many titles are all about graphics, and they fail on gameplay, story, or both. While I still want there to be games that push graphical limits, this type of device would be for more casual games, and it would give developers an excuse to not have graphical fidelity as their sole/primary focus.
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//DEVIL//
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No one would develop for it if it didn't have that.
nial
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Sales dictate everything.
Jinzo Prime
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These are my thoughts on what a Playstation handheld looks like in 2027-2028
- Will be called the Playstation Portal 2 or PSP2 for short
- Compatible with all PS4, 5, and 6 games when teathered to the PS6 (games running on the PS6).
- Select PS6, and most PS4 and 5 games will be playable un-teathered to the PS6 (games running on the PSP2).
- Only games that are fully compatible can purchased in the PSP2s version of the PS Store.
- Multiple PSP2's can connect to a single PS6 for local multiplayer or for family game sharing.
RayHell
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He proved over time that he was a reliable leaker. He's doing colabs with Wendel from Level1Tech and the guys from Hardware Unboxed, If he was a fraud they would not endorse him.MLID as 'source', fuck that
HeisenbergFX4
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He has been getting some stuff right as of late
The very definition of "Fake it until you make it" I guess
IbizaPocholo
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New PS5 system update beta previews DualSense wireless controller pairing across multiple devices
Beta participants will have access to the new feature starting tomorrow.
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RayHell
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I've been listening to the guys for more than 3 years and tracking his leaks and he's mostly spot on. I cannot relate to a period where he "fake it" but I can say there's a hate toward the guy from people who never even bother listening to him only inspired by other behaviors.
It's a good thing the Level1Tech and Hardware Unboxed jumped in to give him the recognition he deserved.
TheRedRiders
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He's been hit and miss, in recent months it's been more hits than misses, especially in regards to Playstation.
His AMD leaks were very inconsistent, especially on RDNA 3. Personally I find some of his takes to be terrible, he's an AMD fanboy and he struggles to hid it, especially when he pushes the constant Nvdia concern troll narratives.
diffusionx
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This sounds terrible. Nobody wants to spend $400-$500 or more on a handheld and say they can only play select new games that come out.
I feel like the entire industry has lost the plot on this handheld stuff. It's not that popular. Even Switch, by far the most popular device, was used as a docked regular console at least 50% of the time if not more.
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Radical_3d
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New PS5 system update beta previews DualSense wireless controller pairing across multiple devices
Beta participants will have access to the new feature starting tomorrow.
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Source? I feel like the Switch Lite in itself disproves this, it's a fairly popular version of the device.
But the main reason handheld stuff has dramatically changed is because the audience is no longer the same as it was in the GB/PSP/DS days. Phones and tablets have largely eaten up that market, which is sad, but handhelds now have to really try and differentiate themselves from phones and focus less on bite-sized entertainment and more on full-fledged console-ish games. I agree though that a handheld PS sounds awful just being a PS5/PS6 lite, it should be handled more like it's own exclusive device with exclusive games, but that era of adventurous handheld endeavors is over, only Nintendo can pull it off because they basically combined a console and a handheld in one.
diffusionx
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Nintendo: Switch Owners Play Docked And Undocked About 50 – 50 Of The Time
In an interview, Nintendo of America Senior Vice President for Sales and Marketing, Doug Bowser, revealed how docked and undocked play times are split on Nintendo Switch. “About even—about 50…
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Considering the Switch 2 is significantly more powerful docked, it'll be interesting to see what happens with that device.
My point is that the whole "full fledged console-ish games" thing isn't that popular. The Steam Deck hasn't sold that many units. It's also huge, ugly, and has terrible battery life. It also comes with significant sacrifices. Zoomers and below are going to continue to play games on their phones. Sony is trying to thread the needle here but something has to give and I don't think a device like this will be that popular at the price it is going to have to be at.
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memoryman3
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Nope.
It will likely play
- PS4 games (base PS4 mode only)
- PS5 games (in Low Power Mode - not all PS5 games will be supported)
- PS6 Portable games
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Jinzo Prime
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Yeah they will, if the PS6 is $700 or more. And the Japanese market isn't buying non-handheld systems anymore, so if they want to compete there, they have to have a handheld.
It should play basically every game.
And there is no reason the handheld can't have hdmi out for tv use. They could even sell a plastic dock just like the switch if that's what people want.
Zacfoldor
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This will be a disaster on the level of PSVR2 and it will gimp Sony exclusives for a generation just like the XSS.
The portal is great. This is a terrible idea. It's also an antiquated one. In a time of hybrids Sony is making a dedicated handheld that is in direct competition with their home console if it docks, or a sub par product out of the box if it does not.
There is no silver lining here.
This is not good. This is a dumb move from Sony when they need smart moves. This is a pipeline destroyer when their pipeline has already been destroyed for years. The problems are not that it won't sell. The problems are that it will.
The portal is great. This is a terrible idea. It's also an antiquated one. In a time of hybrids Sony is making a dedicated handheld that is in direct competition with their home console if it docks, or a sub par product out of the box if it does not.
There is no silver lining here.
This is not good. This is a dumb move from Sony when they need smart moves. This is a pipeline destroyer when their pipeline has already been destroyed for years. The problems are not that it won't sell. The problems are that it will.
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coffinbirth
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People comparing this favorably to the Series S situation are going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize;
a. This thing will only play a fraction of your PS5 library
b. Most AAA games will probably run like ass
c. It will almost certainly hamstring 1st party PS6 games if they are forced to support it
d. It will probably cost more than a PS5
Personally, I'll be getting it for my PS4 library, mainly.
Also, I think this is the perfect opportunity to get their back catalog of games in order. PS3 seems out of the window unless they invest heavily in a proper emulator instead of the streaming bullshit....but, the PS1, PS2, and PSP libraries are there for the taking if they were to set up a team not unlike what Xbox did and give these emulators updates and QOL updates that at least match the efforts of the emulation scene. Give us DuckStation quality PS1 emulation. PCSX2 quality emulation. PPSSPP quality emulation. RPCS3 quality emulation. Seriously. Hell, since I'm dreaming anyways, how about Vita support?
Remember Vita, Sony?
a. This thing will only play a fraction of your PS5 library
b. Most AAA games will probably run like ass
c. It will almost certainly hamstring 1st party PS6 games if they are forced to support it
d. It will probably cost more than a PS5
Personally, I'll be getting it for my PS4 library, mainly.
Also, I think this is the perfect opportunity to get their back catalog of games in order. PS3 seems out of the window unless they invest heavily in a proper emulator instead of the streaming bullshit....but, the PS1, PS2, and PSP libraries are there for the taking if they were to set up a team not unlike what Xbox did and give these emulators updates and QOL updates that at least match the efforts of the emulation scene. Give us DuckStation quality PS1 emulation. PCSX2 quality emulation. PPSSPP quality emulation. RPCS3 quality emulation. Seriously. Hell, since I'm dreaming anyways, how about Vita support?
Remember Vita, Sony?
IFireflyl
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dgrdsv
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Next gen will be "gimped" by the need to launch on crossgen regardless of what shenenigans Sony may do with their platforms.
FoxMcChief
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Those first party Switch 2 ports should be pretty easy.
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pacman4000
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Word. The sooner people realise this, the better.