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[Holammer]

Wait, I thought DLSS was all that mattered to consider Switch 2 a next-gen console?

Maybe it is when it's supported. PC version of Elden Ring does not support DLSS natively, so I doubt it's used on Switch 2.

 

[naguanatak]

I don't see performance as one of the most important factors. I just don't defend bad performance.

I played elden ring on Series X. that port was also a badly made product. verifiability so in fact.
I enjoyed it. GOTY easily for me at the time.
yet, I would never try to defend it.

both the PS5 and Series X ports of Elden Ring are verifiably badly made ports. veryfiably so thanks to the PS4 Pro version, which runs at a very stable 60fps when played on PS5. meaning FromSoft had every possibility to make the game have a stable 30fps mode and a stable 60fps mode, but didn't bother. ergo, badly made product. especially on PS5 because there you had no way to "fix" the issue with VRR.

Now I understand you and I'm fully with you on that. You can call it out, and call it what it is. But tell others not to buy it because it's bad...I don't know.
There are people who only have a Switch 2. And you're telling me they shouldn't even bother because it is a badly made product? They want to play the game, they don't care about performance problems, but they shouldn't?

Still...you don't understand people 'defending' bad performance. Even though some of us just say, it doesn't matter as much as some might think, that seems to be defending to you... But people telling others they shouldn't have fun with a product because it's badly made is acceptable to you?

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Defend bad performance or these miserable fucks?

Watch Pi from 1998. Oh my god, it's black and white...pretty grainy, too. Yeah, but it shits on modern day Hollywood in a triangle.
It's always a trade-off between performance and visuals. And then you have people just not capable to release a technically sufficient video game. You can decide if you want to pay money to these people or not. And you can decide if you want to tell others over the internet that it is not acceptable to support these Devs. I know who the bigger idiot is in my opinion.

Seriously ? people are "miserable fucks®" for pointing out the obvious and having standards ?
Also, LMAO at the "at least WE play the games" bit, how frigging pretentious and sanctimonious can you be my guy ?
That Π analogy is also way, way off - it's a good movie not because it's in "black and white" but because it's a neat/OK movie, the fact that "today's" Hollywood sucks is a whole different matter...

Again, the fact that you or anyone else are willing to give a pass to a 5 years 3 year old game ( Baemono will rage) that performs badly for 70 Eurodollars is...well you do you, be my guest(s), no one's gonna stop you, the fact that you have to call out others though "miserable fucks" 'cause they don't like living in 1998 anymore with those 18fps Nintendo games (oOT) is pure hypocrisy and shows an immense lack of self awareness.

Elden Ring ran like shit on ALL consoles and guess what, Nightreign also runs like absolute shit on PS5/XSX, you don't see anyone defending that though, only the most hardcore of Ninty fanboys do.

 

[Fake]

More like the Integrade version, not the base game

He is not talking about performance alone, the resolution was bad as well.

I guess people are not watching the DF video? Elden Ring engine is pretty CPU limited, thats why is struggling with Nintendo Switch 2. Some folks are even bringing the Steam Deck, but Steam Deck CPU is far better than Nintendo Switch ARM CPU.

John also mention this is the first time From Software engine was ported by a ARM device.

edit: Integrade version will not change anything. This is kinda the same scenary than Dark Souls Remastered on base PS4 vs Nintendo Switch. The base PS4 code is perfect for the Nintendo Switch 2, the additional magic in the Final Fantasy is probably the Nvidia DLSS.

 

[naguanatak]

Seriously ? people are "miserable fucks®" for pointing out the obvious and having standards ?
Also, LMAO at the "at least WE play the games" bit, how frigging pretentious and sanctimonious can you be my guy ?
That Π analogy is also way, way off - it's a good movie not because it's in "black and white" but because it's a neat/OK movie, the fact that "today's" Hollywood sucks is a whole different matter...

Again, the fact that you or anyone else are willing to give a pass to a 5 years 3 year old game ( Baemono will rage) that performs badly for 70 Eurodollars is...well you do you, be my guest(s), no one's gonna stop you, the fact that you have to call out others though "miserable fucks" 'cause they don't like living in 1998 anymore with those 18fps Nintendo games (oOT) is pure hypocrisy and shows an immense lack of self awareness.

Elden Ring ran like shit on ALL consoles and guess what, Nightreign also runs like absolute shit on PS5/XSX, you don't see anyone defending that though, only the most hardcore of Ninty fanboys do.

I'm not defending anything... And I won't buy or play Elden Ring on Switch 2. I played on PS5, about 80% through, and put it down... I had enough. And yeah, it ran bad. But being able to put up with that isn't defending.

But of course now I'm a Nintendo fanboy in your eyes... It's always just a big competition to some of you.

I cannot have fun with Elden Ring because it has bad performance. I cannot have fun with Death Stranding 2 because Kojima is a hack and pretentious... But the game runs nearly flawless...doesn't matter, I cannot have fun with it. I cannot have fun with Snowrunner, because you just drive through mud...what do you even do? I play my PS5 save at work on switch 2. It is blurry as fuck, had immense pop in and... Imagine that, I don't give a fuck, I have fun and I'm not defending Saber, I just don't care about the problems, I enjoy the game for what it is.
But I cannot have fun with shadow of the Colossus on PS2 because it runs at 16fps at times. It was my all time favourite when I played it, how can that be?
I must be a Nintendo fanboy.
Go on with your console war and call me pretentious and lacking self awareness.i see that the game has problems, as do half of the others released nowadays. I support you in calling that out. It's important so that others can make informed decisions. Calling someone who tells others they shouldnt have fun miserable fucks is not okay. Calling someone a fanboy because he doesn't have a problem with the things you have is okay, got it.

 

[Baemono]

a 5 years 3 year old game ( Baemono will rage)

 

[Codes 208]

The people clamoring this is strictly a nintendo hardware issue clearly don't remember Blighttown on consoles.

Fromsoft are shit at optimization, why do you think we keep clamoring for a bloodborne remaster? Because even the GOAT suffers framepacing issues and forced chromatic aberration for a shit IQ.

Jeez, imagine if the demons souls remake was done in-house, not only would it look a ps4 game but you'd most likely need the ps5 pro just for a 60fps mode

 

[Soodanim]

It's difficult to say when I'm distracted by the player never having played Elden Ring and being dogshit awful at it, but I wasn't disgusted by the performance on show. It looks playable, and for a handheld it could be worse.

 

[naguanatak]

It's difficult to say when I'm distracted by the player never having played Elden Ring and being dogshit awful at it, but I wasn't disgusted by the performance on show. It looks playable, and for a handheld it could be worse.

Careful. You're defending while simultaneously being a fanboy. But I'm sure the Gaf police will be on your ass in no time. Enjoy the rants by people who will never play the game on this platform because they 'have standards'

 

[Bojji]

New Digital Foundry video starts off with discussing Final Fantasy 7 & Elden Ring on Switch 2, John Linneman calls the performance "basically unacceptable".

Sounds like From Software game to me...

 

[Zacfoldor]

Just like I have been saying.

1. Game doesn't even have a release date yet how are you imagining you can judge performance? Aren't we clickbait grifting at this point?
2. Do you care so much about handheld performance of a game that it would affect your buying decision? I bet you hated Oblivion remaster and every UE5 game and the original Elden Ring on PS5 which was recommended to play in PS4 more for fps. We had a term for that once. Graphics whore. I wonder if you will skip a PS6 game it plays shitty in low power mode.
3. Spinning up hyperbole like this is what will get your opinions marginalized as Nintendo derangement syndrome. It's actually too late for this. Many of you did this already and no Nintendo fan will ever listen to you or care what you way again after Switch 2 launch. You showed your full ass and we all saw it.

I mean, I see you. You just want some tea. Slow news week, huh?

 

[tr1p1ex]

The great thing is you don't have to worry until the final product is out.

 

[kevboard]

1. Game doesn't even have a release date yet how are you imagining you can judge performance? Aren't we clickbait grifting at this point?

the majority of times when people say this, nothing improves in the release version

2. Do you care so much about handheld performance of a game that it would affect your buying decision? I bet you hated Oblivion remaster and every UE5 game and the original Elden Ring on PS5 which was recommended to play in PS4 more for fps. We had a term for that once. Graphics whore. I wonder if you will skip a PS6 game it plays shitty in low power mode.

wouldn't wanting better performance in exchange for more conservative graphics be the exact opposite of a graphics whore? many devs push "advanced technology" these days as a shortcut and for eyecandy to show in screenshots. basically all UE5 games would be better with last gen tech instead of using the newest UE5 features.

the graphics whores are the ones that want to sacrifice perfomance because they get a boner from standing still and making screenshots

 

[Dacvak]

I'm getting so sick of ragebait headlines these days. I'm worried we'll never go back to the days of normal journalism.