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[splattered]

Its not shitty at all and it falls in line with what I have said for awhile now.

The XsX is a suped up Xbox One which is great.

The PS5 is a new generation which includes the controller which is pretty special from what I understand.

Why go through and add some cool new tech to the new dualsense and have someone use a dualshock and things not work right?

I wrote out a long (and respectful) response and decided to scale it back and say: time will tell.

I would love to be able to use my ps4 peripherals on the ps5 at least in the beginning. Why not give me the choice?

If they "had confidence" in the new dualsense they wouldn't force it. It would be so amazing and revolutionary that people wouldn't even want to use a dualshock on the ps5.

This is not about innovation at all, it is about forcing customers to do what they want them to do, period.

 

[Vae_Victis]

I understand the Dualshock 4 not being supported for PS5 games, there is a series of good reasons for that.

But they should make it work at least for PS4 games played in backwards-compatibility mode, the is really no reason not to allow that other than wanting to sell more controllers.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

I understand the Dualshock 4 not being supported for PS5 games, there is a series of good reasons for that.

But they should make it work at least for PS4 games played in backwards-compatibility mode, the is really no reason not to allow that other than wanting to sell more controllers.

It does work with supported PS4 games on PS5.

 

[icerock]

Finally found this track! Sony do have a good taste when it comes to choosing their tracks for their events. This one was in the opening sizzle reel.

 

[Vae_Victis]

It does work with supported PS4 games on PS5.

OK, cool then. Thanks for the correction.

 

[unintelligent orange]

I mean no disrespect, I really don't.
But if someone told me we're going to take the talent and development resources from Naughty Dog to work on any sort of Jack and Daxter, I would say fuck Jack and Daxter.

It would be them taking 10 steps back in their careers.

Let other new studios work on this sort of games, make them fun and build their portfolio. ND is way ahead of this type of game.

Games are simply supposed to be fun to play man, and arguably the most graphically un-intensive games are some of the best because there is no bs. I mentioned specifically before that their is too much emphasis on graphical realism and pixar-like quality in my last post.

While it would appear to some people that ND going back to J&D is regressive in terms of what ND is capable of, it would be a nice change of pace. Not to mention, they already tried to make a new J&D game prior to TLOU2 and they continue to say it's never off the table. And as bad as you think it is for them to go back to it, I think you underestimate what they could do with it in todays age.

Since when did less graphically intensive games = shittier quality games lol. This sort of thinking is why the focus in this industry is as messed up as it is. By the way you keep referring to the J&D games btw it seems to me like you've never actually played them, but I cant tell for sure. The main character's name is not spelt Jack, but rather Jak.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I wrote out a long (and respectful) response and decided to scale it back and say: time will tell.

I would love to be able to use my ps4 peripherals on the ps5 at least in the beginning. Why not give me the choice?

If they "had confidence" in the new dualsense they wouldn't force it. It would be so amazing and revolutionary that people wouldn't even want to use a dualshock on the ps5.

This is not about innovation at all, it is about forcing customers to do what they want them to do, period.

Come on man, you buy the ps5 and you get a controller in the box. How many more do you realistically need nowadays? Where are all these 4/8 player couch coop games for people to use multiple controllers at the same time?

Is this really a complain?

I have multiple ds4s because either i wanted a white one, one for a computer, another for the other and that's it. At least this time there are actual improvements to controllers tech, which was not always the case in the past.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

DF testing a PS4 Pro with an SSD and there is a "substantial" improvement in load times as well as significantly better texture streaming. Games such as Witcher 3, Days Gone and others were tested. I really hope the Witcher 3 gets some sort of patch to take some sort of advantage of the PS5's SSD as the LOD's, pop in, texture streaming and load times are pretty horrendous on my PS4 slim.

 

[AeneaGames]

I have heard a lot of good things about Haptic Feedback, so I really want devs to utilize it for ps5 games. This move from Sony is a good push, but the success of haptic feedback still remains on how extensively its programmed, and if gamers really do feel the difference.

Why go through and add some cool new tech to the new dualsense and have someone use a dualshock and things not work right?

I do get that, and instead I think it would have best if they had decided to let game devs decide if they want to force the use of a DS5 or not PER GAME.

I mean, I currently play one game quite a lot, an MMO, I have a Scuff controller which I use with this game for the back pedals. Trying to play it without those paddles is going to be super annoying for me.

But that's a PS4 game you say!? Well, if they make a PS5 patch what is it then? A PS4 game running the same like a PS5 game or is it a PS5 game?
To me it then becomes a PS5 game and if Sony then restricts me to play the same darn game, which is not using the new features at all, with my old controller I will be mighty sad.

Another example, I also play a lot of Destiny 2 (well used to anyway), it will get a nice new shiny PS5 patch and thus it will become a PS5 game which means I can not use my old controllers with paddles anymore...

If they had added back buttons/paddles OR they had already announced an add-on like they recently did for the DS4 I would not have minded but now I'm kinda peed off that I won't be able to play those games how I want to.

Sooooo, they can sorta solve this, for me at least, if they allowed cross-gen games which get a PS5 patch AND which do not use the new features yet to still support the DS4 controllers.

It's too encourage developers to make use of the Dualsense unique features. I'm actually in full support of this. What I don't like is losing the optical port. My A50s weren't cheap.

Well, I'm behind ditching the optical port, never used it anyway, but my Scuf controllers weren't cheap!

Honestly, I don't care if they force people to use the DS5 with NEW games that actually use the new features, I do mind they do the same darn thing for games that are cross-gen and/or get a patch which then become PS5 games as well.

They need to separate those two types. I have 3 Scuf controllers here, each was around €200, can't exactly easily replace them unless I win the lottery

 

[splattered]

Come on man, you buy the ps5 and you get a controller in the box. How many more do you realistically need nowadays? Where are all these 4/8 player couch coop games for people to use multiple controllers at the same time?

Is this really a complain?

I have multiple ds4s because either i wanted a white one, one for a computer, another for the other and that's it. At least this time there are actual improvements to controllers tech, which was not always the case in the past.

People will need at least two if not more.

Some people collect and use controllers because they like the different color variations that the dualshock offered through its gen.

Some people bought elite and scuff type controllers that will now be worthless on the ps5.

Yes, this is really a complaint.

I could understand if they completely rewrote the wireless tech for the dualsense but the fact that the dualshock may still work for older ps4 games on the ps5 system means that is not the case.

Its simply a case of "give me more money"

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Games are simply supposed to be fun to play man, and arguably the most graphically un-intensive games are some of the best because there is no bs. I mentioned specifically before that their is too much emphasis on graphical realism and pixar-like quality in my last post.

While it would appear to some people that ND going back to J&D is regressive in terms of what ND is capable of, it would be a nice change of pace. Not to mention, they already tried to make a new J&D game prior to TLOU2 and they continue to say it's never off the table. And as bad as you think it is for them to go back to it, I think you underestimate what they could do with it in todays age.

Since when did less graphically intensive games = shittier quality games lol. This sort of thinking is why the focus in this industry is as messed up as it is. By the way you keep referring to the J&D games btw it seems to me like you've never actually played them, but I cant tell for sure. The main character's name is not spelt Jack, but rather Jak.

Number one, no, not all games are supposed to be fun to play. Some of the best games I played had me captivated by the story and emotional journey they were taking me on. Just this year alone I played a couple games that literally had me crying. And it was nothing to do with how "fun" they were to play. And yes, one of them was TLoU2.

ND matured way past the sort of games like Jack & Daxter and Crash Bandicoot. There's a time for everything and this particular studio is now all about a different type of experiences. To top it all off, they are probably definitely the best studio in the world at that exact type of experiences. How can anyone just think they should go back to cartoony stuff nowadays? That's insane.

It's not about graphically intensive games, it's about writing, gameplay, music, art direction, animation and some strange special sauce that apparently nobody else is able to copy. There's plenty of games with realistic graphics that are not great or even good for that matter.

And no, I've never played that J&D game, it's not my kind of game anyway, I'm into different experiences. Played Crash Bandicoot way back in the day if that helps though, and obviously have seen gameplay from this other game you're asking for.

 

[ToadMan]

didn't see the thread about ps4 controllers not working on the ps5 so ill just post it here.

NOT drive by shit posting, but I gotta say in my mind the only reason they won't allow dualshock controllers to work on the ps5 is because the Dualsense is going to be more expensive like 69-79 new (which I've been saying) and they dont want everyone to just go out and buy the cheaper dualshock controllers. Pretty damn shitty if this is the case.

DS4 does work on PS5 for PS4 games.

Not sure what else anyone would expect.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Yeah I'll keep my DS4's around for BC unless the Sense just feels / performs way better.

Might as well put that BC wear and tear on old controllers.

 

[3liteDragon]

That makes alot of sense. They definitely want something similar to the first event which gained alot of traction in the press and social media. I doubt they will half ass the next PS5 event.

Just remember, they went from being super quiet during the first half of this year while Microsoft was gaining momentum throughout, to this on June 11th:

PS5 Reveal Event Was the Most Watched Gaming Livestream in YouTube's History [UPDATED]

It was just confirmed that the PS5 reveal event was the most watched gaming livestream in YouTube's history with 7.32 million people tuned in

wccftech.com

Opinion: The PS5 Reveal Has Put All the Pressure Back on Microsoft - IGN

Xbox has a chance to answer back after Sony's strong PS5 showing, but are they ready?

www.ign.com

Sony went all-in with this week’s PlayStation 5 Reveal event, choosing to push all of its chips into the center of the table on one hand rather than make more frequent smaller bets, as Microsoft has (mostly successfully) done so far. But, perhaps knowing it had a great hand – it certainly helps that you’re the market leader by a sales factor of two over your competitors, meaning you have a much higher margin for error – it waited. And when the time finally came, Sony played its hand beautifully – with millions of concurrent viewers watching live – erasing much of Microsoft’s hard-earned Xbox Series X momentum in one fell swoop. So the question for Team Xbox becomes, “Now what?”

They know what they’re doing, they have a plan and they’re sticking to it. We just gotta be patient, it’ll all be worth it in the end.

 

[jonnyp]

Knew it. You all need to learn to curb your hype.

In other news, DF just came out with a ridiculous video testing an SSD on a PS4. Is it 2014 again?

 

[icerock]

Holy shit, 27 pages on that Spider-Man exclusive thread on Era! Folks love to went, don't they?

At least, it's the most discussion Avengers game as generated for years.

DF testing a PS4 Pro with an SSD and there is a "substantial" improvement in load times as well as significantly better texture streaming. Games such as Witcher 3, Days Gone and others were tested. I really hope the Witcher 3 gets some sort of patch to take some sort of advantage of the PS5's SSD as the LOD's, pop in, texture streaming and load times are pretty horrendous on my PS4 slim.

Few years late on this one, DF...

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

People will need at least two if not more.

Some people collect and use controllers because they like the different color variations that the dualshock offered through its gen.

Some people bought elite and scuff type controllers that will now be worthless on the ps5.

Yes, this is really a complaint.

I could understand if they completely rewrote the wireless tech for the dualsense but the fact that the dualshock may still work for older ps4 games on the ps5 system means that is not the case.

Its simply a case of "give me more money"

I disagree, it's really not a case of "give me more money" if they literally revolutionize the controller completely. You're supposed to, for the first time in forever, actually interact with games differently and feel contextual feedback that helps immerse the player. Yeah, motion controls were a gimmick and (to me) rumble is as well. Haptic feedback is actually something that should improve the way you game. Just imagine feeling the grip on your tires as you accelerate past a turn, letting you adjust through your touch when you're about to over steer.

Besides if you're collecting controllers for color changes (not judging, I did the same), than that's on you. You can't buy more than you really need and then be disappointed when you're not using it on a different console. When did you ever get to move controllers to a new generation in the past? I can't remember once, so that's not an honest expectation to have.

 

[TGO]

Holy shit, 27 pages on that Spider-Man exclusive thread on Era! Folks love to went, don't they?

At least, it's the most discussion Avengers game as generated for years.



Few years late on this one, DF...

I don't get it, what was they expecting?
Spider-Man is now Sony IP in both games and the movie industry
And that SSD is over 700 pounds, no thanks

 

[Fake]

Holy shit, 27 pages on that Spider-Man exclusive thread on Era! Folks love to went, don't they?

At least, it's the most discussion Avengers game as generated for years.



Few years late on this one, DF...

Whats happening there?

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Few years late on this one, DF...

all kinds of paid promotion action going on! aaaallllll kinds!

 

[Nickolaidas]

Holy shit, 27 pages on that Spider-Man exclusive thread on Era! Folks love to went, don't they?

At least, it's the most discussion Avengers game as generated for years.



Few years late on this one, DF...

Wasn't there an update which stated it was a mistake?

 

[AeneaGames]

Not sure what else anyone would expect.

That they also work on PS4 games that get a PS5 patch which then makes them PS5 games....

Or... I expect Sony to release a back button add-on ASAP! I can't play certain games without them!

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Holy shit, 27 pages on that Spider-Man exclusive thread on Era! Folks love to went, don't they?

At least, it's the most discussion Avengers game as generated for years.

They want to give us every reason to buy Playstation and it is working. Look at Era and the recent thread here but they will say it isn't a big deal

 

[sircaw]

I do get that, and instead I think it would have best if they had decided to let game devs decide if they want to force the use of a DS5 or not PER GAME.

I mean, I currently play one game quite a lot, an MMO, I have a Scuff controller which I use with this game for the back pedals. Trying to play it without those paddles is going to be super annoying for me.

But that's a PS4 game you say!? Well, if they make a PS5 patch what is it then? A PS4 game running the same like a PS5 game or is it a PS5 game?
To me it then becomes a PS5 game and if Sony then restricts me to play the same darn game, which is not using the new features at all, with my old controller I will be mighty sad.

Another example, I also play a lot of Destiny 2 (well used to anyway), it will get a nice new shiny PS5 patch and thus it will become a PS5 game which means I can not use my old controllers with paddles anymore...

If they had added back buttons/paddles OR they had already announced an add-on like they recently did for the DS4 I would not have minded but now I'm kinda peed off that I won't be able to play those games how I want to.

Sooooo, they can sorta solve this, for me at least, if they allowed cross-gen games which get a PS5 patch AND which do not use the new features yet to still support the DS4 controllers.



Well, I'm behind ditching the optical port, never used it anyway, but my Scuf controllers weren't cheap!

Honestly, I don't care if they force people to use the DS5 with NEW games that actually use the new features, I do mind they do the same darn thing for games that are cross-gen and/or get a patch which then become PS5 games as well.

They need to separate those two types. I have 3 Scuf controllers here, each was around €200, can't exactly easily replace them unless I win the lottery

Cut your food bill in half Porker and you could probably buy both consoles, headphones camera, and ten new controllers.

Peace
xxxx

 

[ToadMan]

Very well said, I had the same thoughts as well, a State of Play didn't have enough "glamour" for any major PS5 reveals and announcements. I think this is the right choice as well, I mean a bunch of devs sitting in front of a 540P camera with shitty audio doesn't look good or seem professional. I really liked Jim Ryan's approach to the June event!

That being said, I also think Sony decided to delay whatever they had planned because of Microsoft's poor event and it's reception, it might be the case of Sony and Jim wanting to counter whatever Microsoft show off and this may work really well as it's very likely that Sony have the much bigger guns and ammo.

I don’t think Sony should concern themselves with what MS is doing.

They have millions of customers who want to hear things like launch lineups, release dates, prices and plans.

MS isn’t part of that - serving existing customers is part of that, in my opinion if Sony are withholding data just for competing with MS, it’ll end up costing them customers who drift away out of lack of information.

That they also work on PS4 games that get a PS5 patch which then makes them PS5 games....

Or... I expect Sony to release a back button add-on ASAP! I can't play certain games without them!

If you really hate the dual sense so much you wouldn’t play a PS4 game patched for PS5 if that patch removed DualShock compatibility, I think maybe the PS5 isn’t a console you will enjoy.

 

[FranXico]

But they should make it work at least for PS4 games played in backwards-compatibility mode

It does, they said it works for PS4 games.

 

[icerock]

I don't get it, what was they expecting?
Spider-Man is now Sony IP in both games and the movie industry
And that SSD is over 700 pounds, no thanks

Whats happening there?

all kinds of paid promotion action going on! aaaallllll kinds!

I feel there is a lot of confusion over who owns the right for the IP. Sony only own the rights to Spider-Man for films, rest of it like merchandising/comics/games lies with Marvel aka Disney. So, for each Spidey venture in gaming medium, negotiations occur. This one is no different, Sony have paid for this exclusivity. I can understand the outrage, but to me this is Sony clearly laying down the marker that if you want to play as Spider-Man, invest in their system.

Wasn't there an update which stated it was a mistake?

No? It's been confirmed by Crystal Dynamics.

They want to give us every reason to buy Playstation and it is working. Look at Era and the recent thread here but they will say it isn't a big deal

Exclusivity is part and parcel of this business, I don't dwell on this stuff. But, I do think, with Jim Ryan at the helm, Sony will be more aggressive than they have been in the past, he's a very ambitious person. His track record in Europe is proof of it.

 

[Serviam]

I do get that, and instead I think it would have best if they had decided to let game devs decide if they want to force the use of a DS5 or not PER GAME.

I mean, I currently play one game quite a lot, an MMO, I have a Scuff controller which I use with this game for the back pedals. Trying to play it without those paddles is going to be super annoying for me.

But that's a PS4 game you say!? Well, if they make a PS5 patch what is it then? A PS4 game running the same like a PS5 game or is it a PS5 game?
To me it then becomes a PS5 game and if Sony then restricts me to play the same darn game, which is not using the new features at all, with my old controller I will be mighty sad.

Another example, I also play a lot of Destiny 2 (well used to anyway), it will get a nice new shiny PS5 patch and thus it will become a PS5 game which means I can not use my old controllers with paddles anymore...

If they had added back buttons/paddles OR they had already announced an add-on like they recently did for the DS4 I would not have minded but now I'm kinda peed off that I won't be able to play those games how I want to.

Sooooo, they can sorta solve this, for me at least, if they allowed cross-gen games which get a PS5 patch AND which do not use the new features yet to still support the DS4 controllers.



Well, I'm behind ditching the optical port, never used it anyway, but my Scuf controllers weren't cheap!

Honestly, I don't care if they force people to use the DS5 with NEW games that actually use the new features, I do mind they do the same darn thing for games that are cross-gen and/or get a patch which then become PS5 games as well.

They need to separate those two types. I have 3 Scuf controllers here, each was around €200, can't exactly easily replace them unless I win the lottery

I’m in the same boat. Love my Scuf and would never want to go back playing FPSes without the paddles.
Just give us an attachment for DualSense or an Elite version (I also love my Elite2) so we don’t have to wait a year for Scuf to reverse engineer the controllers and rebuild them with paddles.

i like your idea with crossgen games being able to use the DS4. Make it happen Sony!

 

[icerock]

I don’t think Sony should concern themselves with what MS is doing.

They have millions of customers who want to hear things like launch lineups, release dates, prices and plans.

MS isn’t part of that - serving existing customers is part of that, in my opinion if Sony are withholding data just for competing with MS, it’ll end up costing them customers who drift away out of lack of information.

Eh, I think you're overstating the impact of delaying the price. Apple roll out the prices of their products few weeks from launch, and they continue to sell. Sony obviously have many many metrics to work with, where they'd have considered the scenario you just laid out. MS always planned for a cheaper next-gen Xbox to shake up the market, Sony had a trump card of their own in form of PS5 DE which not many saw coming. That thing is extremely price-sensitive, if priced correctly, it could cut Lockharts' leg off and bury it even before launch. I can understand why they are playing chicken.

I still don't see MS budging first, they may reveal the price of Series X and possibly delay the launch of Lockhart till they have more info to work with. It's not officially acknowledged as of yet, so they can continue to play innocent. Imagine if they reveal the price at $299-$349 in mid-August, and later Sony price the DE at $399? I don't think MS are foolish enough to take that risk.

Sony should do the smart thing and price both of these consoles as aggressively as possible. Be confident in value proposition of your own product. If MS want to under-cut them and end up eating more losses, then let them.

 

[FranXico]

all kinds of paid promotion action going on! aaaallllll kinds!

I mean, it wasn't that long ago that they posted a PCMR oriented video promoting the 2080ti. Sponsored by nVidia, of course.

 

[AeneaGames]

If you really hate the dual sense so much you wouldn’t play a PS4 game patched for PS5 if that patch removed DualShock compatibility, I think maybe the PS5 isn’t a console you will enjoy.

LOL, did you actually read what I wrote?

Where did I say I hate the DS5? Or that I would not be playing a PS4 game patched for the PS5 if it loses DS4 support? I said that I would dislike it with a passion if the patch does NOT add any DualSense functionality and then forces me to play without back buttons/paddles. I also still will dislike it if I have to play certain games like a patched Destiny 2 or the new COD without thbose paddles.

I have several controllers here that have back paddles. I hate losing THAT particular functionality. There are no 3rd party alternatives yet nor has there been a new back button/paddles add-on announced for the PS5.

It would be mighty easy during the transitional period if Sony made a difference between PS5 games that actually use the new DS5 features and ones that do not use them. With the latter category they can then allow DS4 controllers to work as well.

No clue why you are replying to me like I am an Xbox fanbot....

 

[NickFire]

DS4 has been great, but count me in as excited it won't be usable for PS5. The new features would be ignored way too much otherwise.

 

[AeneaGames]

Cut your food bill in half Porker and you could probably buy both consoles, headphones camera, and ten new controllers.

Peace
xxxx

Okay! I will! Now direct me to the website where I can buy a back paddles/buttons add-on or a DS5 3rd party controller which has them like a Scuf and I will go buy one!!!

Oh wait, there are none

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

DS4 has been great, but count me in as excited it won't be usable for PS5. The new features would be ignored way too much otherwise.

You will be able to still use one for cross gen games on the PS5, just not next gen only games.

 

[Serviam]

People will need at least two if not more.

Some people collect and use controllers because they like the different color variations that the dualshock offered through its gen.

Some people bought elite and scuff type controllers that will now be worthless on the ps5.

Yes, this is really a complaint.

I could understand if they completely rewrote the wireless tech for the dualsense but the fact that the dualshock may still work for older ps4 games on the ps5 system means that is not the case.

Its simply a case of "give me more money"

I will get one extra at launch. I always have my own personal controller which only I may use. Other people have grimy hands and eat snacks while gaming making the controllers gunky. Been doing this since the N64 days, then mostly because ppl were constantly releasing the stick from full tilt making the powder inside come out making the sticks loose.
So one DualSense for me, one for my wife and kid(s).

Playing new games with haptics and the new triggers, if it really is a game changer as the say, I am 100% behind forcing the use of them. Why would anyone want to play without those features? They could really be the reason why I would play multi platform games on my PS5 instead of SeriesX even if the games would look better on the Xbox.

 

[NickFire]

You will be able to still use one for cross gen games on the PS5, just not next gen only games.

Nope. Cause I plan to trade in my current gen tech.

 

[qiqiqiiq]

Well the train hasn't crashed yet, but it took a little detour for the moment

 

[IntentionalPun]

You will be able to still use one for cross gen games on the PS5, just not next gen only games.

Where are you getting this from?

A cross-gen game is a PS5 game from the PS5's perspective, don't see why Sony would claim PS5 games don't support DS4 then let cross-gen games support it.

BC is different than cross-gen.

 

[xHunter]

Lol @ the era thread. And now imagine if sony somehow got a bigger AAA game timed exclusive for a few months. That thread would be the biggest shitshow lmao

 

[AeneaGames]

You will be able to still use one for cross gen games on the PS5, just not next gen only games.

Where does it say that? It says it won't work on PS5 games. Then what is the definition of a PS5 game?
Is a PS4 game patched to take advantage of the power of the PS5 still a PS4 game or a PS5 game?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Where are you getting this from?

A cross-gen game is a PS5 game from the PS5's perspective, don't see why Sony would claim PS5 games don't support DS4 then let cross-gen games support it.

BC is different than cross-gen.

From their Blog:

Which existing PS4 peripherals/accessories will work on PS5?

• Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.
• The Platinum and Gold Wireless Headsets, as well as third-party headsets that connect via USB port or audio jack, will work on PS5 (the headset companion app is not compatible with PS5).
• The DualShock 4 wireless controller and PlayStation officially licensed third-party gamepad controllers will work with supported PS4 games.

 

[IntentionalPun]

From their Blog:

Which existing PS4 peripherals/accessories will work on PS5?

• Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.
• The Platinum and Gold Wireless Headsets, as well as third-party headsets that connect via USB port or audio jack, will work on PS5 (the headset companion app is not compatible with PS5).
• The DualShock 4 wireless controller and PlayStation officially licensed third-party gamepad controllers will work with supported PS4 games.

Says nothing about cross-gen games.

Will work with BC and likely nothing else.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Lol @ the era thread. And now imagine if sony somehow got a bigger AAA game timed exclusive for a few months. That thread would be the biggest shitshow lmao

Maybe Final Fantasy 7 part 2?

That's one possibility.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Says nothing about cross-gen games.

Will work with supported PS4 games, what works on the PS5

 

[AeneaGames]

From their Blog:

Which existing PS4 peripherals/accessories will work on PS5?

• Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.
• The Platinum and Gold Wireless Headsets, as well as third-party headsets that connect via USB port or audio jack, will work on PS5 (the headset companion app is not compatible with PS5).
• The DualShock 4 wireless controller and PlayStation officially licensed third-party gamepad controllers will work with supported PS4 games.

Also says nothing about PS4 games patched for PS5 (which do use the added power but NOT the DS5 features)

Will work with supported PS4 games, what works on the PS5

Again, what is a PS4 game, what is a PS5 game?

Is a PS4 game patched to be identical to the console as a PS5 game a PS4 game or a PS5 game?

 

[SlimySnake]

Lol @ the era thread. And now imagine if sony somehow got a bigger AAA game timed exclusive for a few months. That thread would be the biggest shitshow lmao

whats weird is that MS showed many third party console exclusives. Stalker, Warhammer, Medium, Crossfire, and even PSO. It's like people forgot that MS literally has no first party exclusives ready for the first two years of next gen. what do they think those exclusives were? Phil litearlly called them console launch exclusives lol

The controller thread there is even more funny. People refusing to buy the PS5 because it doesnt support the PS4 controller with PS5 games. Well, the fucking console comes with a controller last I checked.

These people deserved to be locked away. they are mentally sick.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Will work with supported PS4 games, what works on the PS5

That's just a PS4 game though... not a "cross gen" game.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

That's just a PS4 game though... not a "cross gen" game.

I see what you are saying I guess its not clear on cross gen games then

 

[sircaw]

Okay! I will! Now direct me to the website where I can buy a back paddles/buttons add-on or a DS5 3rd party controller which has them like a Scuf and I will go buy one!!!

Oh wait, there are none

You made me sad

 

[MasterCornholio]

These people deserved to be locked away. they are mentally sick

Some of those people act like there's something wrong with looking forward to the DualSenses new features. Heck one of them was making fun of the visually impaired by saying that they would be the only ones to notice the haptic feedback.