• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Beta Thread - Online as smooth as butter

M

MrChocolate

Member
PSY・S;40496828 said:
I'll try everyone but I think I'll stay with Kratos for now.
Click to expand...

My man.

But may I say something?
I mean, seriously... fuck Fatty Lvl 3. It kill me twice, and I couldn't do anything, unlike everyone elses Lvl 3 which I can dodge and stuff. But this? Fuck.
 
T

TimeEffect

Member
Man-is-Obsolete said:
People are just going to have to learn to dodge level 1 and 2 supers, or at least prevent the clustering of enemies. I agree that slys level one needs tweaking, and it sounds like radec's is broken if what you guys say is true. It's supposed to be missles that go where the crosshairs are or lock on a target. It shouldn't kill everything along the way, I think it was meant to explode once it is hit regardless if that was before the crosshair.
Click to expand...

I think the idea was that you were to stay back and home in on a selected target, but it's just easier to double R2 so that it flies straight, which usually goes through clusters of enemies. And since u can aim it, u can fire it from any angle, much easier than his super 2 which requires a straight hoirzontal line of sight.

Of course, why bother aiming since u may get hit? It's easier to double tap r2 into a group of enemies.

MrChocolate said:
My man.

But may I say something?
I mean, seriously... fuck Fatty Lvl 3. It kill me twice, and I couldn't do anything, unlike everyone elses Lvl 3 which I can dodge and stuff. But this? Fuck.
Click to expand...

I still dont understand Fatty's super 3. What happens?
 
M

Man-is-Obsolete

Member
TimeEffect said:
I think the idea was that you were to stay back and home in on a selected target, but it's just easier to double R2 so that it flies straight, which usually goes through clusters of enemies. And since u can aim it, u can fire it from any angle, much easier than his super 2 which requires a straight hoirzontal line of sight.

Of course, why bother aiming since u may get hit? It's easier to double tap r2 into a group of enemies.



I still dont understand Fatty's super 3. What happens?
Click to expand...

That's my point I wonder if that double R2 effect was planned? I severely doubt it, if you do that that thing should just blow up immediately. The distance you aim the crosshairs should have an effect on the distance the missles travel.

Fat Peach's level 3 has her workers filling the screen with attacks leaving very little places to hide.
 
M

MrChocolate

Member
TimeEffect said:
I think the idea was that you were to stay back and home in on a selected target, but it's just easier to double R2 so that it flies straight, which usually goes through clusters of enemies. And since u can aim it, u can fire it from any angle, much easier than his super 2 which requires a straight hoirzontal line of sight.

Of course, why bother aiming since u may get hit? It's easier to double tap r2 into a group of enemies.



I still dont understand Fatty's super 3. What happens?
Click to expand...
It kills you. That's what happens. And it usually kill you twice.

But, I agree with Man-is-Obsolete, it takes quite a while to build.
 
T

TimeEffect

Member
Man-is-Obsolete said:
That's my point I wonder if that double R2 effect was planned? I severely doubt it, if you do that that thing should just blow up immediately. The distance you aim the crosshairs should have an effect on the distance the missles travel.

Fat Peach's level 3 has her workers filling the screen with attacks leaving very little places to hide.
Click to expand...

Her attack is AI controlled, yeah?

I agree Radec's Super 1 should blow up immediately when it makes contact. If there is a cluster, then it should do a minimum AoE damage at best. I'll continue playing as him and more mindfully use his Super 1 to do the 3 KO. I'm sure that its too good and needs to be adjusted.

Parappa's 1 is easy to miss but can net u a kill. Ive managed to get lucky once and get 3 kills. That's how Super 1's should be.

His and Sly's need to be adjusted. I think Parappa's Super 2 is fine because it net u three kills but is also easy to dodge. If his super 2 was any better then his super 3 becomes more worthless, and it's worthless as is since his super 2 can get three kills. More of a move you use for style points rather than a need to win. His super 3 is a guarantee but I'd rather take the small risk of missing his super 2, get 2 kills, which is almost guaranteed, and then make up for it with a super 1 or another super 2.

I'm just worried that super 3's aren't worth it if they at best net u 2-3 kills (or 4-5) when getting 3 kills is pretty common with super 2's, and super 1's. Just keep using Super 2's in that case and you'll be better off than a one-off Super 3.... at least for timed mode. I wonder how differently this mechanic will work for other modes

I guess the best solution is to make super 3's longer for guys like Radec, and maybe Sly while adjust their super 1's. IMO, super 3's should be hard to get, but should reward u with an easier chance of getting 4+ kills while Super 1's should give u 1 kill if u land it, and if ur lucky, 2+ kills. Super 2's should, if ur good enough, get u 3 kills (Fat P's can net u 4-5, how is her super 3 in comparison?)

If the customization is so deep that u can micromanage AP and super abilities then I wont have an issue, but a standard should be considered for ranked MP.
 
J

jondabomb

Member
Since the beta is a relatively old version of the game, is there anyone who has played the newer version and the beta that could make out any differences in balancing among the original six characters
 
M

Man-is-Obsolete

Member
Again imagine landing a super 1 and 2 in 1 vs 1 or even 2 vs 2. The degree of difficulty would go way up. And therefore a level 3 may be more worthwhile in those modes.

Free for all is chaotic and in that chaos level 1 and 2's are much easier to land.
 
J

jondabomb

Member
Man-is-Obsolete said:
Again imagine landing a super 1 and 2 in 1 vs 1 or even 2 vs 2. The degree of difficulty would go way up. And therefore a level 3 may be more worthwhile in those modes.

Free for all is chaotic and that chaos level 1 and 2's are much easier to land.
Click to expand...

I think 1 on 1 will involve a ton of strategy when using supers. Will you want to wait and build your bar all the way up to level 3 for a guaranteed 1 or 2 kills, or use lower level supers where you can possibly get more but tgetting a kill is harder
 
R

Ran rp

Member
jondabomb said:
I think 1 on 1 will involve a ton of strategy when using supers. Will you want to wait and build your bar all the way up to level 3 for a guaranteed 1 or 2 kills, or use lower level supers where you can possibly get more but tgetting a kill is harder
Click to expand...

Yeah in 1on1's you're going to want to use combos that stun and trap your opponent before you use a super like Kratos' jump + forward triangle + super 1 combo. That reminds me, I think that there are some air moves aren't in the OP. Kratos charges forward with a spear and shield when pressing forward + triangle on the ground but when he's in the air he performs a flurry of jabs instead.
 
S

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Banned
Man-is-Obsolete said:
People are just going to have to learn to dodge level 1 and 2 supers, or at least prevent the clustering of enemies. I agree that slys level one needs tweaking, and it sounds like radec's is broken if what you guys say is true. It's supposed to be missles that go where the crosshairs are or lock on a target. It shouldn't kill everything along the way, I think it was meant to explode once it is hit regardless if that was before the crosshair.
Click to expand...

It has splash damage so when it hits an opponent and the rest are clustered there, it kills everyone in the radial vicinity.
 
X

xKilltheMx

Member
MrChocolate said:
It kills you. That's what happens. And it usually kill you twice.

But, I agree with Man-is-Obsolete, it takes quite a while to build.
Click to expand...

Uh I've dodged a fat P lvl 3 before? It's not too hard, just roll and keep and eye on how fast the workers move and the fireballs. I guess since im used to dodging pits smash attack (it is pit with those fat angels flying everywhere right?) that this is like easy mode.
 
M

Man-is-Obsolete

Member
shagg_187 said:
It has splash damage so when it hits an opponent and the rest are clustered there, it kills everyone in the radial vicinity.
Click to expand...

Right but I think when people just double tap R2 it goes straight and through people. I have seen it take out a rather broken up group before, and came super quick like his level 2.

Which I don't think is the intended effect.
 
M

MrChocolate

Member
xKilltheMx said:
Uh I've dodged a fat P lvl 3 before? It's not too hard, just roll and keep and eye on how fast the workers move and the fireballs. I guess since im used to dodging pits smash attack (it is pit with those fat angels flying everywhere right?) that this is like easy mode.
Click to expand...

I'll try that. If not... I swear I'm gonna cry like a little girl.
 
S

Schobeleth

Member
jondabomb said:
I think 1 on 1 will involve a ton of strategy when using supers. Will you want to wait and build your bar all the way up to level 3 for a guaranteed 1 or 2 kills, or use lower level supers where you can possibly get more but tgetting a kill is harder
Click to expand...

This is how I see it. In a 4 player FFA, it's total chaos so getting multiple kills with supers will be way easier but in a 1v1 with two skilled players? It's going to be INTENSE. I'm gonna be on for awhile tonight, finally have some time to play the beta so add me, look out for me ;) I mostly play Radec.
 
M

Man-is-Obsolete

Member
shagg_187 said:
Yeah I suppose so. Will try it out further if someone gives me a chance lol.
Click to expand...

Lol, I will do the same. I think that is what Time Effect was trying to say though and I have personally seen it happen as well. When Radec aims the crosshair the missles come out slower but slightly faster than Sweet Tooth's rocket, but can home in if he locks on a character. However when double tapping R2 it comes out in a straight line and happens super fast and believe it even goes through people that are in a line like his level 2.
 
T

TimeEffect

Member
Man-is-Obsolete said:
Again imagine landing a super 1 and 2 in 1 vs 1 or even 2 vs 2. The degree of difficulty would go way up. And therefore a level 3 may be more worthwhile in those modes.

Free for all is chaotic and in that chaos level 1 and 2's are much easier to land.
Click to expand...

Super 1's and 2's are more forced (in a good way) in 1 v 1. No point saving for a super 3there, super 3's are made for multiple enemies it seems. They are harder to hit, especially because the mode has an incredible amount of anticipation and focus.

Super 1's and 2's in FFA seem to just net the kills easier, I dont know if that's a flaw or not when Super 3's are already tailored towards 4 player games.

It's hard to balance all this, but I hope there is a depth of customization to tailor any problems.
 
K

k_Reign

Member
I freaking hate Fat Princess! Why the hell does she build meter so quickly! That chicken super lasts too long. I have a feeling that a lot of the level 2s are way too strong. Except for Sweet Tooth's.
 
S

SolidSnakex

Member
k_Reign said:
I freaking hate Fat Princess! Why the hell does she build meter so quickly! That chicken super lasts too long. I have a feeling that a lot of the level 2s are way too strong. Except for Sweet Tooth's.
Click to expand...

As someone that plays as FP I always wonder why it seems like she takes so long to build meter in comparison to Sly or Parappa. :p
 
S

SSReborn

Member
k_Reign said:
Hey all three of us were there! That was intense hahah
Click to expand...

Yep, I so wish it wasn't random I wanted a rematch :(

JStein0222 said:
So glad I won that one! I'm not the best Kratos clearly haha. 4x Overtime meant a hit = half a meter haha it was great
Click to expand...

lol funny thing is that was the first time I ever pulled off a level 3 in the game at all and I clearly didn't know what I was doing with his haha

SmithnCo said:
Sly electricing all over the place and building AP like mad is always fun
Click to expand...

Sly has such an amazing knockback grab instead of knocking the character away and scattering the AP he jumps off the person and keeps all the AP for himself I love it!
 
C

Catalix

And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Hyuga said:
No more BETA codes left, as it seems ;(

I hate times like these.
Click to expand...

Living vicariously through everyone else's awesomely detailed impressions?

I know that feel bro ;_;
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

LTTP | Valkyrie Profile 2 : Silmeria
LTTP
15
893
DelireMan7 replied
Dragon Age: Veilguard New Details
News 2 3 4
156
10K
Hudo replied
LTTP | Shin Megami Tensei : Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker
LTTP
2
372
DelireMan7 replied
Coming to Game Pass: Atlas Fallen, Core Keeper, and Star Trucker
News
22
1K
West Texas CEO replied
Stellar Blade - Launch Trailer
Trailer
42
2K
Ma-Yuan replied
Top Bottom