I must be deaf. I only now noticed the menu music changes depending who is on the backround theme. Ratchet adds space sounds.
Awesome, i hadn't noticed that
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Awesome, i hadn't noticed that
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
The annoying thing about FFA ranked being the main ranked mode is that it pretty much forces you to use the OP characters.
In other games you can more easily out skill others, because even if they have easier to land moves, you can still prepare and defend and counter it. Here if a character is better at building ap and kills quicker, the only great way to fight against it is to build ap and kills even quicker than he is, but there's kind of an upper limit on how quick every character can do that.
In other games you can more easily out skill others, because even if they have easier to land moves, you can still prepare and defend and counter it. Here if a character is better at building ap and kills quicker, the only great way to fight against it is to build ap and kills even quicker than he is, but there's kind of an upper limit on how quick every character can do that.
This game is surprisingly well done. The Buzz stage is awesome.
If I had to make some changes:
1. You should lose super meter when you die
2. Regular moves connecting should do AP damage more regularly. It looks like it's too easy to build super
3. I'd add in ring outs for like really severe cases of beat down
Raiden seems godtier.
If I had to make some changes:
1. You should lose super meter when you die
2. Regular moves connecting should do AP damage more regularly. It looks like it's too easy to build super
3. I'd add in ring outs for like really severe cases of beat down
Raiden seems godtier.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
GG, Napalm_Frank. I got owned by the lag -_-;
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I suck at the game.
KillerTravis
Banned
The boss fight at the end of Arcade Mode has to be one of the lamest ever.
Do the character tutorials, they'll teach you all of each characters' moves. Then try to string some combos together in training or arcade, or just hop online.
KillerTravis
Banned
How dare you hate on polygon man
I can't put my finger on what exactly is that I hate the most about it. Probably the voice, instead of sounding menacing he sounds more like a bad parody, and the fact that I'm not really fighting him but clones of other characters.
Whaa.. I must have forgotten to reset that after I switched accounts. It was set to "off" but I definitely had it set to 15 minutes before.
Chuck Norris
Banned
I can't wait for the sequel. Things it needs to have
- A unified art style. I think the worry was that characters would lose their identity or something, but that's just silly. If they used something like this it would work so much better
- keep the mash ups, but make them dynamic. So you have a static list of stages, but then you have a whole number of invasions that can occur. So if I'm on Hades I can be invaded by a Metal Gear in one match and by dollface another
- larger focus on 1 v 1. That's where I feel the strength of this franchise could be. Make the game deeper and closer to a true fighter than a Smash Bros game.
- A real single player. Expand it greatly, I want to see how all the characters interact with eachother. Also, make sure that characters are featured in their own stage. Fighting Prappa in dojo makes sense. Fighting Nariko in the Dojo does not
- Reach out and hire some talent to improve production values. Get a high quality designer on board. Improve the UI, the music, the sound effects, the graphics. All of this needs some work.
- A unified art style. I think the worry was that characters would lose their identity or something, but that's just silly. If they used something like this it would work so much better
- keep the mash ups, but make them dynamic. So you have a static list of stages, but then you have a whole number of invasions that can occur. So if I'm on Hades I can be invaded by a Metal Gear in one match and by dollface another
- larger focus on 1 v 1. That's where I feel the strength of this franchise could be. Make the game deeper and closer to a true fighter than a Smash Bros game.
- A real single player. Expand it greatly, I want to see how all the characters interact with eachother. Also, make sure that characters are featured in their own stage. Fighting Prappa in dojo makes sense. Fighting Nariko in the Dojo does not
- Reach out and hire some talent to improve production values. Get a high quality designer on board. Improve the UI, the music, the sound effects, the graphics. All of this needs some work.
Polygon Man's pretty big wasted potential. No buildup to him, no explanation as to why he "gathered" everyone, his only attack is the dumb stomp, and he just morphs into the hazards from other stages while fighting bleh colored opponents. Arcade mode may as well end with the rival battle for all the importance he's given.
Chuck Norris
Banned
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Sorry for the disconnect, Smithnco. My Internet is being temperamental today.
Also, remind me never to do stock with you again -_-;
Also, remind me never to do stock with you again -_-;
lol, us dodging every super was pretty funny.
TheDarkStark
Member
I don't understand how reviews are giving this game a 7/10??
Are they insane? Are they playing the same game I'm playing?
Literally the only complaint I have is the lack of health bars, it makes defense unnecessary.
Are they insane? Are they playing the same game I'm playing?
Literally the only complaint I have is the lack of health bars, it makes defense unnecessary.
Not quite. If you don't defend, you're making it easier for your opponent to take you out. Your opponent's AP meter IS your health bar.
TimeEffect
Member
FANTASTIC game with Scrafty and NapalmFrank!
Man, what an intense game of Stock haha. My sides were hurting, I was laughing so much at you two in the end there!
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There are some interesting stipulations in trials. One of them is: Gain AP real fast, but lose AP when you get killed. They should be available for local/friendly play to make games more interesting. I think that'd be fun.
It's too bad you can't change things like spawn time, how long supers last, etc. for custom games. I'd love to play a mode where I could custom-tailor little tweaks to make some interesting private games.
Man, what an intense game of Stock haha. My sides were hurting, I was laughing so much at you two in the end there!
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There are some interesting stipulations in trials. One of them is: Gain AP real fast, but lose AP when you get killed. They should be available for local/friendly play to make games more interesting. I think that'd be fun.
It's too bad you can't change things like spawn time, how long supers last, etc. for custom games. I'd love to play a mode where I could custom-tailor little tweaks to make some interesting private games.
PowderedToast
Junior Member
everything needs work but the fighting, and fortunately that's the most important thing. this will probably be my goty regardless of the deficiencies, the gameplay slays that hard
kat dlc is gonna be soooooooooo good
kat dlc is gonna be soooooooooo good
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Fun fact: that was my first time playing Ratchet. The only reason he's rank 20 is my roommate mains him and usually plays P1 in multiplayer.
But yes, fantastic game. I still think my super should have hit at the end :T
PowderedToast
Junior Member
yeah radec is awesome. his sniper must be the longest range move in the game, surely? seems to have a tool for every situation, lots of mix ups
i hope someone does a thorough tear-down of each characters pros and cons eventually, that's one of the best parts of enjoying a new fighting game
Welcome to everyone's opinion of Radec back during the beta days. It goes away quickly once you fight him some more.
Time invite me if you're still playing.
losing super meter when you die is too punishing, it kills the incentive to reach lv 3 super....most people would go for quick lv 1 much more than now! losing part of the meter would be fair though..
The Grim Heaper
Member
i just did a 3v1 match against the cpu(Toro, Radec, Big Daddy) on dojo as sir dan and won
i'm so happy right now
i'm so happy right now
I agree with the art style -- but I disagree with the mash ups. They just look abysmal and feel arbitrary. Get rid of them (it'll help create a uniform art-style as well). Some of the directorial decisions in this game seem baffling.I can't wait for the sequel. Things it needs to have
- A unified art style. I think the worry was that characters would lose their identity or something, but that's just silly. If they used something like this it would work so much better
- keep the mash ups, but make them dynamic. So you have a static list of stages, but then you have a whole number of invasions that can occur. So if I'm on Hades I can be invaded by a Metal Gear in one match and by dollface another
We should play together at some point before the tournament so we don't get whopped. :V
The Grim Heaper
Member
too much incentive now to go for the L3s tho, especially the super powerful ones like radec that can get you like 5 kills
Mashups would be a lot better if 80% of them weren't "giant enemies/characters from another series snap at the players in the foreground". I really like Sandover because of that, the Golfers just so happens to be practicing their swings when the barrage of balls fall in the way, rather than making a conscious decision to attack the players or Dreamscape's Buzz mashup with the trivia questions.
Radec's level 3 isn't even all that great. I main him and I'd much rather go for constant level 1's/2's instead of building up for a level 3.
Ok came across two things that I found to be really annoying
1. Some players lag like a mutha&%*(#...some literally disappear. For w/e reason I have noticed this way way more when playing on the vita
2. So you can make a super stop if you attack them from behind yes? I mean just level 1s and 2s that are applicable. For example, I hit Ratchet when he was doing his lvl 1, from behind. For w/e reason I went right through him and into the super killing me.
Also when using evil coles's lvl2 super, can those who change their color to red, as in who get caught in the range of the attack, just walk away?! Happened twice today. Once got all three in range and all three were glowing in red but only two died. Then one guy just walked away while being caught in it! It was really annoying
1. Some players lag like a mutha&%*(#...some literally disappear. For w/e reason I have noticed this way way more when playing on the vita
2. So you can make a super stop if you attack them from behind yes? I mean just level 1s and 2s that are applicable. For example, I hit Ratchet when he was doing his lvl 1, from behind. For w/e reason I went right through him and into the super killing me.
Also when using evil coles's lvl2 super, can those who change their color to red, as in who get caught in the range of the attack, just walk away?! Happened twice today. Once got all three in range and all three were glowing in red but only two died. Then one guy just walked away while being caught in it! It was really annoying
I like stock 2v2s more than anything else as of right now. Freaking amazing. 3 lives would be my recommendation.
So when I decided to take a break from Parappa I started messing around with Sweet Tooth. Didn't have any interest in him when the beta was out, but now I think he's kinda fun. Problem is I can't find any better combos than the ones the game teaches you. Can I get some info/strategies, fellow Gaffers?
Well, the L3 does cost more than 4 times the AP L1 costs. And with most L1's it's not that impossible to get double kills, with a little luck and help it actually happens quite a lot. So I'd say the supers are just about where they're supposed to be.
Especially since you can dodge most of the supers at least for some time, so against people who know what's going on around them it's pretty hard to get 5 kills with an L3. Unless we're talking FFA, but well, there's nothing stopping people from throwing the hell out of the guy who's nearly at his L3, and throws with 2+ bars hurt a LOT.
Common thing to keep in mind for super vulnerability:
Level 1's: Can be knocked out of by normal attacks and other supers.
Level 2's: Invulnerable to normal attacks, can be taken out by supers.
Level 3's: Invincible.
I think the mash-ups do nothing to strengthen the philosophy behind the game. In fact, it feels like the "sovereignty" (I can't think of a better word at the moment) of each of the individual franchises is somehow violated. I mean Hot Shots Golf? Really? You're going to put that up there with Jak & Daxter? Okay, Superbot. Going across the game series itself makes infinitely more sense. It would be cool to see different Ratchet antagonists across one stage (or something in that manner). But I'd drop that gimmick all together; like it should have been at the brainstorming meeting.
Hm, I'm pretty sure you can knock him out of that one. Sure you didn't lag teleport a bit and get hit by it that way? That happens sometimes online.
So yeah, the lvl 1 of Ratchet should be able to stop if i hit him from behind yes?
@Smithnco: Has to be some pretty amazing timing then..but I'm sure I saw myself go right through him. It was evil cole forward + O attack. Sigh I'm starting to notice a lot of lag and glitches in the online now
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Okay, I officially hate Dreamscape now. Robbed me of my patented Shake 'n' Bake Daddy 4 times :<
Oh it's not like I fully disagree, the mashups are kind of a double edged sword. They're a neat idea in order to bring even more franchise representation into the game (which it kinda falls flat on seeing how Patapon, Loco Roco and Resistance are the only IPs with no characters that have a stage or mashup...), but at the same time, I wouldn't mind single series stages just so we can get a music selector going ala Smash Bros. I'd love to have different songs playing in stages randomly instead of the same one every time, which is forced as a result of the mashup.
I need more All Stars gaf friends. I play on both, vita and PS3.
Add me; Sharingan_Itachi
Add me; Sharingan_Itachi
They could have done better. Instead from Resistance, they could had from Ico/ SoTC / Folkore / WipeOut or Demon Souls. I mean Resistance theme is just the like of Killzone, putting other IP such as those would unrelated to other stages already in. Also they already have Ratchet from Insomniac, so they should represent something from other studios also.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Some look bad. In particular Loco Roco and Metal Gear. But then some are quite well done, I like the Killzone and Ape Escape one and the Columbia map is good too
There is an argument to not do the same thing twice though