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PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale |OT| Use Supers to Smash your Bros!
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Man-is-Obsolete
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Woof, I haven't played for a few days and played 2 v 2 with new characters and a friend that just picked up the game and we got run on all night. Facing Brown belts and red belts and people with 600+ characters. Wasn't pretty. I was stubborn and kept trying to use Ratchet and Spike. There are some characters I am great with and others I am absolute garbage with.
Then I played as Cole in solo FFA, and got stuck in combos over and over again lol. Need to stick with my BnB and until I learn the intricacies of other characters. Surprise Surprise I switch to Fat Princess for my last match and score 19 points lol. Decided to end on that note.
Anyone else think the belt system is a bit harsh? I could win 10 straight matches and barely move up, yet if I lose one match, even if that means second place by 1 point, then I lose a lot of points. The climb back up is brutal. I understand perhaps being harsh like that in the higher level belts but getting through the green belt can be a slog even, especially when match made with higher level players. Also if you go down a belt level you go all the way to 50 of the previous belt. OUCH!!!
Then I played as Cole in solo FFA, and got stuck in combos over and over again lol. Need to stick with my BnB and until I learn the intricacies of other characters. Surprise Surprise I switch to Fat Princess for my last match and score 19 points lol. Decided to end on that note.
Anyone else think the belt system is a bit harsh? I could win 10 straight matches and barely move up, yet if I lose one match, even if that means second place by 1 point, then I lose a lot of points. The climb back up is brutal. I understand perhaps being harsh like that in the higher level belts but getting through the green belt can be a slog even, especially when match made with higher level players. Also if you go down a belt level you go all the way to 50 of the previous belt. OUCH!!!
Just picked up the cross-buy deal myself...played a few matches online without any issues... dmz for the vita on the router page?
I did run into that issue in the beta a few times though, with ports open iirc...so maybe I just haven't played enough games to run into the issue again.
Btw did you find out the answer to the your question (iirc) earlier on why it takes longer to respawn sometimes?
hey kinesis, forgot to add you yesterday, sending a friend request.
Perhaps you're trash playing as Sweet Tooth. I don't have the game yet but participated in both betas & crushed rooms full of Kratos.
I've tried two different modems, two different routes, wired and wireless on everything and nothing works. I have great connections in other multiplayer games I play, but this is just not good right now. Game was like flawless Thursday night, but tonight has not been good at all.
Also, no I did not yet. It's funny because everytime the long spawn happens to me, there's like 10 seconds of a match left, and Parappa or Ape Escape guy are waiting for me to spawn to use their level 3 lol, so then they just sit there and blow it on two dudes instead.
I'm playing on the PS3 right now. Maybe i'll try using my Vita to see if it magically works better for some reason.
Heihachi is kind of crap in FFA. All of my combos leave me extremely exposed. I'm left having to rely on his down square and air down triangle most of the time.
I also found out that it takes more AP for Heihachi to go from level 1 to level 2 than it does for him to go from level 2 to level 3.
I also found out that it takes more AP for Heihachi to go from level 1 to level 2 than it does for him to go from level 2 to level 3.
Or maybe you were just better than all the Kratos players.
I'm making the rounds and jotting down a quick and dirty tier list. And before people yell at those dirty words, tier lists aren't a bad thing. They help identify which characters need work or require more effort to win with.
TimeEffect
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If your matchmaking has to restart the search, u will likely switch characters. If the search restarts, back out and try again
In many ways you are still screwed though, they can reverse some projectiles with the pad and slowly get in on you like a wall if it's a team. Just total cakespam all the time on the relatively small Resistance stage. If it were another stage maybe we would've not been totally screwed.
Sometimes it will happen within a second which is why I have to mash O constantly..
Man-is-Obsolete
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The problem is everyone is different. I find Toro easier than characters others have success using. My only problem characters like Toro and Spike is they have hard Level 1 supers to set up and every super can at best net 3 kills whereas other characters build meter faster and have supers that can net 4+, including Level 2's.
Soooooo maybe you have a point. lol. However, I can more easily win with Toro than I can other characters still.
The Outsider
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So I bought the PS3 version and redeemed my Vita version as well.
I was thinking about using the Vita as a third controller using cross-play to play with a couple roommates, but since the PS3 and Vita copies are technically using the same PSN account, will that even work?
I need to get another Dualshock anyway, but I was hoping to using the Vita as a temporary solution.
I was thinking about using the Vita as a third controller using cross-play to play with a couple roommates, but since the PS3 and Vita copies are technically using the same PSN account, will that even work?
I need to get another Dualshock anyway, but I was hoping to using the Vita as a temporary solution.
Ah perhaps it's server side? Lots of connections then..hope it sorts out for you soon. [edit: oh I see - when it restarts the search, thanks guys]
I'm not sure about the long respawn tbh, hopefully someone can answer us. Only played a few times but when it happened to me I THINK pressing Left trigger on the vita spawned me, but that might have been coincidence.
I've been using Heihachi myself, agree with the experience..can't really offer anything yet, but you know I feel that his level 2 is better than the 3 anyway - you can often get more than 3 kills with the lvl 2 (true, sometimes less). He builds up meter pretty fast to level 1 at least...when you manage to connect anyway.
His circle->(fast)->square is awesome just like in tekken too but I have to re-position my hand to press them down fast enough...which is a bit lame since it's a super close quarters move (tiny range I mean).
Yeah, I think i'm just going to wait it out a day or two. I've lost so much in ranking because of the errors i've been experiencing and i'd rather not lose more.
They nerfed the distance of his shoulder bash.
beyond_death
Member
Is there no way to play free for all with 1 local player and 2 others online?
That's not a problem though. Tier lists aren't affected by "I can beat whole rooms of people with Sir Dan" kinda testimony. They basically gauge the potential of the character. If you're willing to put in the work to make a low tier character competitive, that's great.
As an example, Raiden is pretty much eclipses Sir Dan in almost every way. A skilled Sir Dan player can easilly beat an average Raiden. But that player's put in the work to squeeze the most juice out of the character. Odds are, if he faces an equally skilled Raiden, he'll lose more often than not. Same way with most of the cast.
That's why I said it's just a quick and dirty list. It's nothing conclusive, but I'm not just using my own experience, but watching other people fight, and feedback that I've read here as well.
Create a versus match party.
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Most of the people I've been playing against online have been really good about avoiding Kuma. I've had to go and throw people into him a few times just to get a kill. With the huge pool between level 1 and 2 you can store about three or four level 1's which can be nice if you manage to isolate someone and hit them with a down+circle-square hit. Unfortunately, most of the time it's such a huge clusterfuck you can't land any.
Man-is-Obsolete
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While you are at it put ratchet near the bottom. Lol. I am just not a fan of his supers at all. I can build good meter but his level 1 is such an easy whiff against even decent players, and his level 2 last about as long as parappa's level 2 without the speed and instant touch kill. Maybe he has some hit confirms I don't know about yet for his level one.
TimeEffect
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Impossible. You cant at all get near them to get AP first. A team of two Sackboys set up spawn points, then spam the hell out of you with the protection of their electricity. It's a madhouse.
This is the case for all those who have screen clears. Just goes to show that screen kill supers aren't worth it
Man-is-Obsolete
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This and the hit priority kratos has are his biggest issues. Cool I blocked him, but good luck closing that crazy chain grab distance before he can attack again. Really I would forgive that if it wasn't for the fact his attacks move through and overcome nearly all other attacks. At least make some of his attacks vulnerable. I mean he is vulnerable for his level 1 even but not for normal attacks?
IHaveCandy
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Heihachi's lvl 2 is a pretty big gamble. I wish you could control Kuma.
I hate that Kratos can literally spam his up square launcher as well. That thing should really have more recovery time on block.
That was the first thing I noticed with it and hated. I tried using Kuma 1v1 against my friend playing Drake on Franzea and between the stage layout and Drake's movement options, Kuma never hit him.
That was the first thing I noticed with it and hated. I tried using Kuma 1v1 against my friend playing Drake on Franzea and between the stage layout and Drake's movement options, Kuma never hit him.
TimeEffect
Member
And his ground stomp. I still think Sweet Tooth is pretty damn good, but his old shoulder and ground bash really helped.
No, but there definitely should be for quick match.
[edit: ^Sure TimeEffect? - PSY said to "Create a versus match party."]
Oh no, may have tested out Hachi's level 2 super mostly in SP haha, damn.
Hopefully he's not too underpowered, I'm drawn to heihachi..although wish we got the preorder costume as a default instead of the alternate ...
Oh no, may have tested out Hachi's level 2 super mostly in SP haha, damn.
Hopefully he's not too underpowered, I'm drawn to heihachi..although wish we got the preorder costume as a default instead of the alternate ...
lowhighkang_LHK
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I haven't picked this game up yet - just wondering, despite Kratos being dumbass overpowered, who do you guys notice is strong and or most frequently used?
AnkiRendan
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I really want to hear how people would recommend fixing Sackboy. I fear that people's complaints would outright ruin the character. As a player of this character here's what I would change.
-Cake and Jam reduced to 15 AP from 25
-Level 3 only has opponents in bubble effect for first death. Afterwards opponents can run around normally.
The electric panel gives 5 AP already, there's no need to touch it. I think people just don't understand Sackboy is supposed to be an annoying zoner. His traps and cakes can be destroyed by swords at least. Having his cakes disappear after firing them would completely ruin the character. His fan doesn't stay out forever and can be destroyed, and his teleport can be destroyed.
As for my matches on stream, I think the only reason people went after the Kratos instead of me was because the Kratos player (my friend) proved himself to be a big threat. He lost to the 1st and 2nd players in singles but he really understands the game quite well, so for whatever reason they focused on him rather than me. I can't make suggestions for how to fight Sackboy in teams right now. Toro is the only other character I actually enjoy using in this game and I think he's pretty awful super wise so I'll have to get back to you on that.
Oh and Superbot seriously needs to add a timer to stock matches. I cannot believe they would miss something like that.
-Cake and Jam reduced to 15 AP from 25
-Level 3 only has opponents in bubble effect for first death. Afterwards opponents can run around normally.
The electric panel gives 5 AP already, there's no need to touch it. I think people just don't understand Sackboy is supposed to be an annoying zoner. His traps and cakes can be destroyed by swords at least. Having his cakes disappear after firing them would completely ruin the character. His fan doesn't stay out forever and can be destroyed, and his teleport can be destroyed.
As for my matches on stream, I think the only reason people went after the Kratos instead of me was because the Kratos player (my friend) proved himself to be a big threat. He lost to the 1st and 2nd players in singles but he really understands the game quite well, so for whatever reason they focused on him rather than me. I can't make suggestions for how to fight Sackboy in teams right now. Toro is the only other character I actually enjoy using in this game and I think he's pretty awful super wise so I'll have to get back to you on that.
Oh and Superbot seriously needs to add a timer to stock matches. I cannot believe they would miss something like that.
Kratos seems overpowered if you don't know how to fight him just right (at a distance, using projectiles, and always dodging and blocking). Raiden is definitely a popular character right now.
Most definitely this! I've seen sakboys regularly get up to 7 kills with his level 3 because of this.
Kratos, Raiden and Dino are fairly popular. Dino isn't that great but people pick him cause he's the anstsy on the edge fellow with swords and (useless) gun.
This is a good suggestion. With Drake being the one exception, I wouldn't mind if every level 3 that transforms your opponent dropped that effect after one kill, seeing how Drake's is the only one that also limits his attacks to just one, rather than giving him his full moveset.
His level 3's current "advantage" is that if you kill someone during the super, they'll always respawn in a spot where they're easilly reached by Sackboy, more so if Sackboy actuallly set his portal and remembers that he can use the bounce pad. And since all you have to do is touch them rather than land an attack...
Jam and Cake having their AP gain reduce is also fine.
This is a good suggestion. With Drake being the one exception, I wouldn't mind if every level 3 that transforms your opponent dropped that effect after one kill, seeing how Drake's is the only one that also limits his attacks to just one, rather than giving him his full moveset.
His level 3's current "advantage" is that if you kill someone during the super, they'll always respawn in a spot where they're easilly reached by Sackboy, more so if Sackboy actuallly set his portal and remembers that he can use the bounce pad. And since all you have to do is touch them rather than land an attack...
Jam and Cake having their AP gain reduce is also fine.
AnkiRendan
Member
Actually I changed my mind. Only the cake needs an AP nerf. Jam Session is not that great. It disappears after a few bounces. If you get hit by Jam Session, you deserve it. That attack takes a bit to come out.
TimeEffect
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Yeah man GG.
Sackboy's bubble effect on enemies should stop after the first kill, and I really think his cake should disappear.
Kratos and Sackboy are definitely the two that would relieve a lot of players if they got adjusted properly.