PlayStation exclusive content for Hogwarts Legacy will run for 1 year
xHunter
Member
You forgot Fifa Ultimate Team. They got the Legends card, which were asked for from the community for years. Was available on on Xbox from Fifa 14 to Fifa 17.
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
One mission vs 70 billion dollars worth of exclusive content.
But arrogant Sony is back.
But arrogant Sony is back.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Microsoft owns Bethesda and Nintendo paid for Bayonetta's development this is not on the same scale at all. Any game in this category would not exist without the platform owner's investment. They are not mere marketing deals like this Harry Potter case.
It is super petty and really I don't see why people care about this DLC content itself. The game should be big enough that most players miss a few small side quests like this. So this makes the whole thing annoying and pathetic, which is something I agree deserves to be called out for how lame it is, not for how shitty to gamers it is.
PC version is 60 bucks, PS5 version is 70 bucks. I think my choice is made.
I'm really surprised that Sony and Microsoft more often don't just contact these companies while they make the game and just pay them to make exclusive content. That seems like the easier and cheaper form of exclusivity. I think Soul Calibur did something similar with exclusive characters for each platform. Like I'm sure Sony was aware that Capcom was making a new street fighter game. They could be like hey can we pay you to make a playstation themed stage or even pay them to add another character to the new street fighter.
That's the furthest reach I've heard yet. Expansions not coming to your console for a year, that's fine, whole game not coming to your platform for a year due to exclusivity, that's fine, whole franchise no longer coming to your platform indefinitely just because, that's fine. No, it's some random cosmetics and a quest that's the worst evil. Honestly do you even hear yourselves sometimes?
This is essentially what this is. However people argue and it's hard to prove whether the publisher created additional free content for one platform paid for by the platform holder or cut content from the others.
The point of these content exclusives are the platform holders competing for game sales of multiplatforms. If however each paid for additional content then it dilutes its effect and the platform holders are less likely to do it. People seem to have convinced themselves that MS and Phil don't do these things because it's evil but the truth of the matter is that they did it up until the point where game sales were no longer the driving force of their business, after gamepass in late 2017. Now they are trying to secure exclusives indefinitely to drive subscriptions and get you to pay for your cosmetics. It doesn't make sense to pay a publisher to make content to compete for game sales. It makes sense to make franchises exclusive to attract people to gamepass.
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"I don't know what deals get written. I've been pretty open about, I'm not a fan of doing deals that hold back specific pieces of content from other platforms. You don't see that in the deals we've done with Assassin's and Shadow. We'll have a marketing deal on those, but I don't say, hey, I need some kind of Strike or skin somebody else can't play.
"I don't think it's good for our industry if we got into a point where people are holding back the technical innovation of game developers based on a marketing deal. I don't know anything about what's in other people's deals."
I'll let you guess who was bitching here.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Sony doesn't make any huge purchases like Bethesda or AB, but if they had the money to make them, they sure as fuck would.
But it's just as bad when Sony buys bits and pieces of loads of other games.
But it's just as bad when Sony buys bits and pieces of loads of other games.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I like how everyone wants to believe that this means something other than paying to keep content exclusive in order to give one platform a competitive advantage over the others.
It's very well established that people who believe this are in favor of the paid exclusivity model that has been the norm for decades. Limiting what goes to other platforms is perfectly fine. For them it really only comes down to who is paying for it and what platform it goes to.
I think it's more about the hypocrisy than anything.
Also, why does Sony get to make the rules of acceptable purchases? I am 1000% convinced that if Sony had the funds to buy a company like Bethesda or Activision it would have been done yesterday. We wouldn't be talking about exclusivity, the answer would have been known.
Sony don't make any rules. The FCC, CMA etc do. It's because one is constant merger and aquisition of smaller companies into one megacorp and the other isn't.
Sony even though they could afford it wasn't buying up Ninja theory to make a sequel exclusive. The difference is only strategy and their ideology of the market and sales being completely different to MS' strategy and ideology.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Love how Jimmy boy gets a pass from you. But then we have whiners going on about the ABK deal. The gaul to even bring up "entitlement". Wow!
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
There is no difference. One company can afford to go much bigger on acquisitions than the other. And the other is upset about it because it hurts their bottom line.
StealthGoblin
Banned
I'm not in favour of any platform missing out on content.
My post was purely explaining what each party gets for their 'investment'.
Difference in strategy? there is a massive one. Sony could very easily have bought small developers like Ninja Theory, Obsidian etc. It isn't about not affording it. The difference was that they didn't need to convince third parties to not sell games anymore and so didn't need to make them first party at all at the time.
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Unrivaledx88
Member
Best place to play, just sony taking care of its customers.
They were trying to get Starfield exclusive. But of course thatwasdifferent.gif
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
But it's nothing.
Both userbases gets the game and one as access to extra content before the other.
Both have it in the end.
No big deal.
I understand it's annoying if you're excited for that particular piece of content but it's usually nothing burger anyway.
It's not like the Tomb Raider Underworld deal where one platform has 2 chunks of missing content indefinitely.
Don't like it, vote with your wallet and buy the game cheap when the DLC is available.
How so, I'm not sure I've seen anyone call sony a saviour, they both just want your money. If anything it's the xbox loose cannons who are trying to frame multiple aquisitions of publishers by a big corporation as some kind of 'saviour' to tyranny. The same tyranny that MS does/did anyway. have you seen the Phil jesus/god memes? I think you have the one way mixed up.
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
Thank you I'm going to add it. We have to copy/paste that list anytime they cry about something
They are so quiet about these deals like MS was innocent all along.
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Thank you I added it to the list. Damn it's getting long. How did PS survive all this damage from MS?
Dead Rising
Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery
Star Ocean The Last Hope
GTA DLC
Dino Crisis 3
COD DLC
Morrowind and Oblivion
Ninja Gaiden
ACE COMBAT 6
Tales Of Vesperia
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider Underworld DLC
Bioshock
Splinter Cell
Splinter Cell Conviction
Ghost Recon
The Division DLC
Mass Effect and Jade Empire
Dead or Alive 3 and 4
Titanfall
Guilty Gear 2
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
The Medium
Stalker 2
Wartide
PUBG
NARAKA
FiFA Legends DLC
Rainbow Six Vegas
Ridge Racer 6
Lost Planet
Alone in the Dark
Eternal Sonata
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Slicker than your average
Banned
They don't because they are never ending trolls. Some of them are to thick to even put an argument forward so rely solely on reactions.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's it ? That isn't even 1% of the deals Sony makes lol
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Oh you doing a listThank you I'm going to add it. We have to copy/paste that list anytime they cry about something
They are so quiet about these deals like MS was innocent all along.
FIFA 14: Ultimate Team Legends is exclusive to Xbox One
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Thank you I added it to the list. Damn it's getting long. How did PS survive all this damage from MS?
Dead Rising
Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery
Star Ocean The Last Hope
GTA DLC
Dino Crisis 3
COD DLC
Morrowind and Oblivion
Ninja Gaiden
ACE COMBAT 6
Tales Of Vesperia
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider Underworld DLC
Bioshock
Splinter Cell
Mass Effect and Jade Empire
Dead or Alive 3 and 4
Titanfall
The Medium
Stalker 2
Wartide
PUBG
NARAKA
FiFA Legends DLC
Might as well throw them on
Ridge Racer 6
Lost Planet
Alone in the Dark
Oh and Final Fantasy XIII Remastered technically
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
obligatory "oh that was different.gif" goes here
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Beggars can't be choosers.
I mean some of those IP's actually died on that hill.
But yeah it's nothing compared to the PS2 era
GhostOfTsu
Banned
There are way more even from this gen like Scorn, Tunic but I chose mostly from high-profile publishers or franchises.
As usual you don't have any comments about these deals besides BUT SONY!!!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Not even PS2. Entire franchises like FF, RE, Silent Hill and tons of both Western and Japanese IP were locked to the PS1 and PS2 for any number of reasons.
Trying to make a list of things Xbox has money-hatted compared to what Sony have done over the last 26 years is a little foolish lol
I love that CoD DLC is being counted as something Xbox did way back when, when for almost a decade now PS consoles have had exclusive DLC/modes/character packs. This is maximum reach lol.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
They both want your money but it's nice when one company has an extensive backward compatibility program, gives free upgrades to next generation games, offers free cloud saves, and doesn't raise their console prices in the middle of a massive recessionary period.
You are free to complain about any platform you wish but there is a reason people like MS' vision for gaming. Using your massive finances to make gaming more affordable and a better value for the consumer matters quite a bit. It'd be nice to see all platforms treat their customers with that sort of 'tyranny'.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
RE is a tricky one because all of them have appeared on other consoles
Saturn had RE1
N64 had RE2 &3
Dreamcast I believe had RE2/3 & Code Veronica
GameCube had all of them bar the original RE.
the games were more exclusive because PSX was the only viable console at the time.
FF was due to their relationship after the publishing deal for FFVII.
A lot of exclusives was publishing deals because Sony didn't have their first party support they do now.
But yeah generally agree, Sony Exclusives>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS Exclusives
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Those were not even moneyhats. You think publishers had to go back and make Xbox versions of all their games because MS decided to launch a new console
Silent Hill Homecoming/Downpour and the next games on those series came out on Xbox. Sony was not blocking them.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
And what content will it be?
A hat that says the Playstation brand?
A hat that says the Playstation brand?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Those were not even moneyhats. You think publishers had to go back and make Xbox versions of all their games because MS decided to launch a new console
Silent Hill Homecoming/Downpour and the next games on those series came out on Xbox. Sony was not blocking them.
Whose specifically only talking about Xbox ?
Saturn versions of Tomb Raider 2, RE2 and others were canceled way back in the day before Xbox was even a thing.
This is not a list war anyone wants to take, it'll become really long
I'll leave you to that, for this topic about Hogwarts, since the game is coming on like 6 platforms, by its nature the content they're making exclusive cannot be essential so it's not a big loss for players on PC/Xbox/Switch here.
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I mean this is a pretty left field tangent considering what's being discussed is exclusivity deals. I don't think you realise how obvious your love for xbox is, even during the xbox one you were here defending MS with no second hand sales, always online etc and now you're pretending this is about who's 'anticonsoomer'? You and catlady going around with those tags giving empathy reactions.
Nobody asked for a pros and cons list. Could you imagine how laughable it would be listing a VR program, no requirement for PS+, cheaper non proprietary storage during a recession and saying that's why people love Sony when trying to make false equivalences in exclusivity? That's how you come across most of the time. You're obviously deflecting from the fact that I'm making fun of those who don't see that MS do/did exclusivity deals too and going into full marketing mode. The upgrade program is only with first party games too because they're not really selling you games but mostly a service. If you are buying games you are paying the $10/$70 for all the big publishers on xbox anyhow. Now with Activision you're even paying $70 for xbox one versions of COD, go figure.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
To be fair when RE2 came out the Saturn was dead and Capcom was already in development of Code Veronica for the Dreamcast.
Tomb Raider 2?
I know people like to believe it was cancelled because Sony blocked it but like RE2 the Saturn was dying and based on the original Tomb Raider, the Saturn couldn't handle it without some considerable reworking.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
You're all about Xbox but you don't have any arguments so you revert back to talk about the usual Sega and Tomb Raider deal.Whose specifically only talking about Xbox ?
Saturn versions of Tomb Raider 2, RE2 and others were canceled way back in the day before Xbox was even a thing.
This is not a list war anyone wants to take, it'll become really long
How many times we're going to read about that old shit
They keep rewriting history. They just repeat made up facts about Sega and Psygnosis without any research.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
How many times we're going to read about that old shit
98% of the games in your list are one or two decades old.
Come on Jack.
xHunter
Member
I mean for all we know this content was never even made for other platforms right? There wasnt any announcement mentioning anything other than Playstation. So by that logic nothing was ever taken away from any other platform.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
Those are Xbox deals. Talk about them instead of deflecting to fucking Sega.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The OP states the content is exclusive for 12 months. It is content for the game on multiple platforms but being kept exclusive to one platform.
This is not the same as a full game never being announced for a platform.
Make up your mind, when I talked about some PS deals from even before you didn't like that
You're talking about Xbox doing deals, I'm showing you examples that Xbox has only done a fraction of what Sony has been doing for much longer.
If you don't want to hear it, that's too bad.
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xHunter
Member
Yes its not the same as the next big IP from a (former) multiplatform publisher. But going by your own logic, if there is no mention of other platforms, it doesnt exist. There is no other proof. I am just using your own logic.
Mass Effect and Jade Empire were Microsoft Studios games they published, with BioWare (WHO AT THE TIME WAS AN INDEPENDENT DEVELOPER) as the developer.
If you include those games then you can include any Sony first party game on a similar list.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I personally don't think it's that bad when the game is never announced to begin with.
Sony tends to grab an exclusives at the beginning of the IP's life so it's exclusive from the get go.
MS does the same, sadly those game don't usually become a series.
But they do have a habit of getting Exclusives on games that were previously on other consoles.
That I think is shitty.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You're not using my logic accurately lol, in this case they have specifically mentioned that the content will be on other platforms after the 12 month exclusivity period.
Oh shit you're right, I forgot MS published the first ME and Jade Empire.
I agree with almost everything you say, and an not excusing any case where MS has gotten timed exclusivity. It's just that historically it will trend way more towards one company than the other if we start counting.
xHunter
Member
Thats not true. The text in the tweet doesnt mention any other platforms. The Twitter user is assuming that it is coming to Xbox after 12 months, but technically we dont know what happens after that period. So i ask you again. How exactly do you know that this content has been already made for other platforms?
If you havent realized by now, i am doing this shit on purpose. Obviously anyone with a normal functioning brain would correctly assume that this content is already implemented on other platforms and just needs to be toggled on.
Topher
Identifies as young
I don't get this narrative that this form of exclusivity is any different than other forms of exclusivity. It is moneyhatting bullshit and it is fine to call it that but saying moneyhatting an entire game is somehow more preferable than a single mission is absurd. But I shouldn't be surprised considering the amount of hypocrisy spewing out from this console war.
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