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[SerTapTap]

Another positive for Skullgirls is the cancel-based specials--it's extremely easy to chain some basic stuff simply by chaining light medium heavy normals (then a special, then a super), which means you don't even really need to learn combos, you can almost always just cancel those attacks into each other and do a decent chunk of damage after a poke.

I hate top of page go play Transistor or save up for Super Stardust Ultra I don't know

 

[deadfolk]

Since I'm also trying to learn fighting games right now, here are some tips that helped me start out:

- Read some Patrick Miller. While that might be a pretty taunting first step, the whole thing is well written and an enjoyable read that definitely is a great introduction to the genre.

Thanks for the link.I actually started to read that some time ago, and it was one of the things that made me realize I'd probably never be able to play fighting games. I'd been meaning to have another look, but I couldn't find it because I couldn't remember what it was called.

And, I'm more than open to any tips. I've never been able to play fighting games. The only time I've ever broken a controller was while playing Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the SNES back in the day.

 

[bobawesome]

Yeeeesss. Amazon is finally shipping out my copy of Project Diva F 2nd today. I really, really hope it gets here on Monday. I need a buffer from school.

 

[Shizuka]

Having a lot of fun with the forbidden game, although I do have to grind before bosses regardless of motivation.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

So my vita slim replacement comes with 6 lego games

LEGO Harry Potter: 5-7 Years
LEGO Batman 2: DC Superheroes
LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
LEGO Batman: The Videogame
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars

Are any of them good?

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[YianGaruga]

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If they are like the console/PC versions, they're pretty much all the same, only with different themes, so if you want to play one go with your favoutite franchise. Batman 2 is the newest and should be the most polished one. They're fun little games, but not much more.

 

[Shizuka]

If they are like the console/PC versions, they're pretty much all the same, only with different themes, so if you want to play one go with your favoutite franchise. Batman 2 is the newest and should be the most polished one. They're fun little games, but not much more.

They're all (or most of them) based from the 3DS versions of those games, they're not good.

 

[bobawesome]

If they are like the console/PC versions, they're pretty much all the same, only with different themes, so if you want to play one go with your favoutite franchise. Batman 2 is the newest and should be the most polished one. They're fun little games, but not much more.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but...I believe most, if not all, of the Lego games are 3DS ports.

edit: Thanks, Shizuka.

 

[YianGaruga]

They're all (or most of them) based from the 3DS versions of those games, they're not good.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but...I believe most, if not all, of the Lego games are 3DS ports.

edit: Thanks, Shizuka.

Well, I deleted my post. The console games are alright but I know nothing of the 3DS ones.

 

[FriedConsole]

Risk - PS4

Well it does all the minimum a Risk game should do but nothing else. There are three modes available and it is the same three rule variations that come in the instruction manual for the original game. I mostly judge board game adaptations as how long will I be watching stupid animations and Ubisoft's Risk is terrible. There is an option to speed up the animation and not listen to annoying voice lady announce everything but you have to choose to speed it up EVERY DAMN AI turn with no global setting and it even isn't that much faster. The animations and the overall look is super boring as if it was designed to look good on a iPad. I wasn't expecting much but it didn't even reach expectations. Buy and play the excellent Risk Factions by EA on PS3 instead.

5/10

 

[Jimmyfenix]

They're all (or most of them) based from the 3DS versions of those games, they're not good.

 

[FriedConsole]

So my vita slim replacement comes with 6 lego games

LEGO Harry Potter: 5-7 Years
LEGO Batman 2: DC Superheroes
LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
LEGO Batman: The Videogame
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars

Are any of them good?

I played Batman on Vita. It was good but just like every other Lego game that has been made. I thought it played just fine. Just pick the license you like the best and play it because all Lego games are pretty much all the same.

 

[Shizuka]

Also, mind you that some of those games you listed might even be the PSP version of said games.

 

[VLiberty]

LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
LEGO Batman: The Videogame

Those two are based on the console version and are good, albeit they're for PSP. Still better than what Vita(and PSP in the later days) got.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

That's the reason that I haven't bothered putting them in my Vita collection yet. Total apathy.

 

[SerTapTap]

That's the reason that I haven't bothered putting them in my Vita collection yet. Total apathy.

Poor Vita and PSP, even when multiplats exist they're usually ports from the significantly weaker console

 

[Jimmyfenix]

i will probably just play the lego batman games then.

 

[antibolo]

Another positive for Skullgirls is the cancel-based specials--it's extremely easy to chain some basic stuff simply by chaining light medium heavy normals (then a special, then a super), which means you don't even really need to learn combos, you can almost always just cancel those attacks into each other and do a decent chunk of damage after a poke.

Uh not to sound like a jerk, but I'm guessing you learned that from the Skullgirls tutorial and thought that Skullgirls invented it, but it's a really fundamental basic concept in many fighting games, including any Arc System Works game (Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Persona), and many Capcom games as well.

Nothing about the mechanics of Skullgirls is new, they heavily inspired everything from a mix of Marvel and ASW games (the creator is a fan of both).

 

[Shizuka]

i will probably just play the lego batman games then.

Download them all, see what you like.

 

[SerTapTap]

Uh not to sound like a jerk, but I'm guessing you learned that from the Skullgirls tutorial and thought that Skullgirls invented it, but it's a really fundamental thing in many fighting games, including any Arc System Works game (Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Persona), and many Capcom games as well.

No, I know other games have cancels, but Skullgirls does cancels very well and mixes them with a ton of other things that makes it quite accessible (while still being worthwhile to learn due to a high skill ceiling). I can't really think of any game where canceling felt as simple and as Skullgirls, but I could be wrong.

 

[bobohoro]

Thanks for the link.I actually started to read that some time ago, and it was one of the things that made me realize I'd probably never be able to play fighting games. I'd been meaning to have another look, but I couldn't find it because I couldn't remember what it was called.

And, I'm more than open to any tips. I've never been able to play fighting games. The only time I've ever broken a controller was while playing Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the SNES back in the day.

I will never be good either. I lack the basic skills, RL sparring partners and am living too far from the bigger countries with a healthy userbase to get a stable, minimal lag online experience. But the progression you feel from training in fighting games is pretty great, a few months ago basic execution was a problem, now I can at least nail intermediate to advanced combos against the CPU and even play around a bit with trying my own combos. I am of the mind that focussing on that stuff is pretty good training all around, from concentration to hand-eye coordination, and it's fun for me.

What I basically wanna say: Keep at it, even if you take a beating. Or your controller. Learn fundamentals, try to understand systems and the implications of your actions. That's where Ryu comes into play, because the biggest hurdle for me was trimming down my moveset to those few important ones for special circumstances. And his were iconic and easy to understand. When you have your prefered poke, sweep and anti-air (and maybe one basic combo off of them), take them on a cruise and do nothing else. It's eye-opening how you can win rounds by just using your fireballs and reacting to your opponent with an uppercut, from there it started to slowly click for me.

 

[antibolo]

No, I know other games have cancels, but Skullgirls does cancels very well and mixes them with a ton of other things that makes it quite accessible (while still being worthwhile to learn due to a high skill ceiling). I can't really think of any game where canceling felt as simple and as Skullgirls, but I could be wrong.

I'm not talking about cancels, I'm talking specifically about basic chains (BlazBlue calls them "Revolver Action"). They're actually simpler in ASW games due to the clear progression of buttons

BlazBlue: A -> B -> C -> Special -> Super
Guilty Gear: P -> K -> S -> H -> Special -> Super

Spoiler

Persona: A -> A -> A -> A -> A -> A

The Revolver Action system that Skullgirls uses is actually very similar to Marvel vs. Capcom (before 2) since it's also a 3 punch 3 kick layout.

 

[SerTapTap]

I'm not talking about cancels, I'm talking specifically about basic chains (BlazBlue calls them "Revolver Action"). They're actually simpler in ASW games due to the clear progression of buttons

BlazBlue: A -> B -> C -> Special -> Super
Guilty Gear: P -> K -> S -> H -> Special -> Super

Spoiler

Persona: A -> A -> A -> A -> A -> A

The Revolver Action system that Skullgirls uses is actually very similar to Marvel vs. Capcom (before 2) since it's also a 3 punch 3 kick layout.

Cancels are more important than just chains IMO. I can't stand combos in Bayonetta because they're not canceled, so the timing window is extremely finicky and feels awkward. Cancels mean I can end my current attack and follow up any time I put in the input (ideally, right after I deal all the damage of the attack in most cases). Putting in a combo and cancelling is extremely satisfying in Skullgirls.

 

[Shizuka]

PS4 Games

Evolve
Minutes
Super Stardust Ultra
Unmechanical: Extended Edition

PS3 Games

Unmechanical: Extended Edition

Vita Games

AeternoBlade
Jungle Rumble
Minutes

PlayStation Store Sneak Peek: February 10th 2015

 

[bobawesome]

Hmm, AeternoBlade, huh. I really wasn't a fan of the 3DS game. Is this pretty much the same thing aside from better graphics?

 

[NinjamicWZ]

PlayStation Store Sneak Peek: February 10th 2015

That's really annoying if Unmechanical's Vita version is pushed back... routine practice lately. With a huge backlog, Vita version has become the only reason I want to buy and play any smaller games anymore.

 

[pariah164]

Hmm, AeternoBlade, huh. I really wasn't a fan of the 3DS game. Is this pretty much the same thing aside from better graphics?

It feels like a mid to late era PS2 game. Someone in the thread said the demo is OK, but the actual game is a mess. I'm avoiding it, because even the demo gets dull pretty fast.

 

[FriedConsole]

PlayStation Store Sneak Peek: February 10th 2015

Minutes looks interesting and like my type of game. Will give it a shot.

 

[Shizuka]

I wonder how much AeternoBlade will be. I'm not getting it, but it's an interesting game nonetheless.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

Aeterno seems like a game that will think it should be $20 and a game that Sony won't care enough about to give a PS+ week 1 discount on

 

[Producer]

Cancels are more important than just chains IMO. I can't stand combos in Bayonetta because they're not canceled, so the timing window is extremely finicky and feels awkward. Cancels mean I can end my current attack and follow up any time I put in the input (ideally, right after I deal all the damage of the attack in most cases). Putting in a combo and cancelling is extremely satisfying in Skullgirls.

eh Bayo's combos are quite easy. Youjust have to delay your timing a bit on some combos. Dont go into it with the mindset of a fighting game is all.

And there is a cancel mechanic in Bayo, its called Dodge Offset. You should read into it as its sort of an hidden technique not mentioned in the game. Its quite easy to learn and once you master it, its a game changer, especially on higher difficulties.

 

[RK128]

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The PSP Lego games are direct ports of the PS2 versions (and they are great games ).....so they are great times .

The native Vita Lego games (most of them, I know Lego Batman 2 is this) are very traditional Lego games ala the Lego Star Wars series; they lack the open world systems that the PS3/360/Wii/ect versions have. They are still fun games though (I know LB2 is) but they aren't anything super special either :l.

Hope this helps .

Played the AeternoBlade demo and....it was meh :l. The core gameplay is fine and I like the fact the combat system is somewhat deep (their is a combo tree and I like the fact you can link commands together) but the visuals are bland and the rest of the demo was only okay for me :l. The game is fine , and I think the full version should be quite fun .....but outside of that? I don't know :l.

If anything, I really like the Sands of Time-esc rewind mechanic, so if the game does a lot with this, I think the game will be quite unique .

 

[Jimmyfenix]

The PSP Lego games are direct ports of the PS2 versions (and they are great games ).....so they are great times .

The native Vita Lego games (most of them, I know Lego Batman 2 is this) are very traditional Lego games ala the Lego Star Wars series; they lack the open world systems that the PS3/360/Wii/ect versions have. They are still fun games though (I know LB2 is) but they aren't anything super special either :l.

Hope this helps .

Yeah i decided that i will give each one a try !

 

[Flandy]

Aren't the Vita versions ports of the 3DS version which are ports of the DS version?

 

[RK128]

Yeah i decided that i will give each one a try !

Hope you have fun with them Jimmy ! I think the PSP games will offer you the most fun, but I had a good time playing Lego Batman 2.

Sorry that your Vita 1000 never got fixed . At the very least, you are getting a number of extra games with your new Vita 2000 while also getting a better battery, better rear-touch pad and the thing being lighter to hold .

 

[RK128]

Aren't the Vita versions ports of the 3DS version which are ports of the DS version?

I think so; after Lego Marvel Super Heroes, they started having the games being time-based isometric action games. Very different from the console versions but I guess they were okay games though .

Lego Batman 3 is supposedly much more similar to the console versions then past tittles, so that must be a good thing .

 

[SerTapTap]

My copy of Banned Game came in. Was expecting something a little bigger from the art book but eh. I'm still playing Neptunia Rebirth 2 on the PS TV and Dangan Ronpa on the Vita though. Too many games

 

[GloriousBagel]

When is NISA having their press event? Next week?

 

[Vylash]

When is NISA having their press event? Next week?

2 weeks, on the 19th

 

[wilflare]

hmm why do I want to preorder the Persona 4: DAN LE from amiami
i should wait for the localisation

 

[NinjamicWZ]

Still waiting on Banned Game

Hoped it would sort itself out, but I had to get a hold of the Golden PO when it went back to Golden again and changed to "undeliverable"... finally found out why this keeps happening. Apparently my exact apartment and building number is also street in Golden, so the label printer automatically puts multiple street lines on packages.

Apparently I'll still get it, but smh. I still blame them, since UPS & FedEx don't have any problems getting stuff to me. Sent some probably confusing email to NISA to explain to them to please make sure the label doesn't say St on the Apt line.

 

[jvm]

PlayStation Store Sneak Peek: February 10th 2015

Oh, Sony. I haven't even finished my PS+ games, much less Grim Fandango. Why do you want to taunt me with Supah Stahdust Ultrah?

 

[Takao]

hmm why do I want to preorder the Persona 4: DAN LE from amiami
i should wait for the localisation

atlus would be mad not to capitalize on a Persona 4: DAN CE

 

[wilflare]

atlus would be mad not to capitalize on a Persona 4: DAN CE

guess I'll wait then - might be a good time to get a Vita 2K too

 

[Maid]

PlayStation Store Sneak Peek: February 10th 2015

Look like a safe week for my wallet.

Aren't the Vita versions ports of the 3DS version which are ports of the DS version?

All of my why.

 

[Matchew]

Just got a ps4 with a new PSN id and could use some friends on this thing, add me if you like: gaslight85

 

[Shizuka]

Just got a ps4 with a new PSN id and could use some friends on this thing, add me if you like: gaslight85

You're getting lots of lurkers adding you now.

 

[Matchew]

You're getting lots of lurkers adding you now.

Well, hopefully some are gaf members.

 

[cyborg009]

Does anyone else remember Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines?

 

[names2hard4you]

Does anyone else remember Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines?

Ore-what?

LOL jk, I remember, but Sony America doesn't.