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[cormack12]

Source: https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUC105XT0Q4A910C2000000/ (paywalled)
Source: reddit


Playstation co-CEO:
"We are trying to increase the overall game market by expanding content to PCs. There is no doubt that home consoles will be the core of our business, but by offering titles for devices other than home consoles, we will reach a wider range of customers."

 

[Fabieter]

Doubt it's gonna stay the focus.

 

[Gaiff]

Wow! What shocking news! Does that mean we’ll see PlayStation ports on PC soon?

 

[T4keD0wN]

 

[GrayChild]

"... and we'll port literally everything else BUT Bloodborne."

 

[Darchaos]

Yeah we can see that with the price of theire latest console, Pc Pro, i mean Ps Pro!

 

[Topher]

Glad he told us. Everyone was wondering

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Nah.

You want good margins on consoles. So want to make up for smaller install base by tapping PC market.

Sound strategy, will eventually convince everyone to go pc route though.

 

[Heisenberg007]

"... and we'll port literally everything else BUT Bloodborne."

Which is why the PlayStation console remains the core.

 

[Topher]

Sound strategy, will eventually convince everyone to go pc route though.

No it won't

 

[ArtHands]

Certainly.

 

[GreatnessRD]

Man... fuck all that. Give us day 1. People who got a console still gonna buy it on console.

Let me not be greedy. It's already turning slowly but surely.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

No it won't

Removing subsidy from consoles will convince a lot of buyers to go pc route.

 

[TrebleShot]

If they truy believe this then release a USB dongle for the Dualsense so we can have haptics triggers and sound output wirelessly on PC, they even have that PS Link adaptor Im sure it can be repurposed.

Cowards.

 

[Hookshot]

Crazy to think the PS5 Pro is to be Sony's last console.

 

[Draugoth]

If they truly go digital and start releasing games within one year of their PS release there will be no reason to get a PlayStation 5.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

If they truy believe this then release a USB dongle for the Dualsense so we can have haptics triggers and sound output wirelessly on PC, they even have that PS Link adaptor Im sure it can be repurposed.

Cowards.

I think they should have put more thought into the PS Link adapter.

 

[Topher]

Removing subsidy from consoles will convince a lot of buyers to go pc route.

Consoles will still be cheaper and obviously there is a large contingent of gamers who do not want to game on PC. Consoles are still better suited for living room gaming. That isn't going to change unless Microsoft makes some drastic changes to Windows.

 

[Ebrietas]

What a bunch of idiots. Go ahead and follow MS off the cliff and then wonder why your business is collapsing. In fact, don't even stop at PC. Put all your content on Switch as well. After all, it's not a "competitor". It would "expand the market". Free money.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Doubt it's gonna stay the focus.

It's literally impossible that it doesn't stay the focus.

Their games come to PS over 18 months before showing up on PC, and compared to PC, their games sell on the console by well over a 5:1 average.

All that has to be reversed before anyone can say the PC has become the focus.

Hasn't Xbox taught you anything?

 

[Punished Miku]

Good, because I definitely plan on skipping PS6.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Consoles will still be cheaper and obviously there is a large contingent of gamers who do not want to game on PC. Consoles are still better suited for living room gaming. That isn't going to change unless Microsoft makes some drastic changes to Windows.

Of course there will still be some players around. Not everyone is going to make pcs.

But if PS6 is $799, one could just make a PC and play everything there. Its certainly a very compelling option.

My guess is only hardcore 15-20 million fans will remain.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Good, because I definitely plan on skipping PS6.

Purchase it twice and it'll be your 10/10 console

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Removing subsidy from consoles will convince a lot of buyers to go pc route.

You must not have heard of Nintendo.

And secondly, that's a somewhat shortsighted thing to say based on the price of the Pro. That is not a console Sony needs to subsidize, why should they subsidize their premium TOTALLY optional offering? When they have a base model they sell at a loss to break even. Thats like asking them to subsidize a dual-sense controller at retail even though they give you one in the box.

But furthermore, even if the console is sold at a $50 -$100 profit, it would still be cheaper than the PC equivalent by over 40-50%.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Removing subsidy from consoles will convince a lot of buyers to go pc route.

Wishful thinking, most people don’t want to play games on PC because they don’t like it.

We just like a nice box under the TV that’s simple to use and not have to worry about how games will run on them.

 

[Topher]

Of course there will still be some players around. Not everyone is going to make pcs.

But if PS6 is $799, one could just make a PC and play everything there. Its certainly a very compelling option.

My guess is only hardcore 15-20 million fans will remain.

I don't think you understand why people game on consoles at all.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Good, because I definitely plan on skipping PS6.

You never liked PlayStation anyway so shock horror!

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Of course there will still be some players around. Not everyone is going to make pcs.

But if PS6 is $799, one could just make a PC and play everything there. Its certainly a very compelling option.

My guess is only hardcore 15-20 million fans will remain.

Good luck with that, most people don’t like using PCs, too much mither.

If you do like playing on PC though then fair play.

 

[Bry0]

Surely selling games on more platforms will lead to the imminent collapse of the Sony brand. Gaf expert analysts have taught me this important truth. 2 year late ports of exclusives = everyone on earth immediately dies.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

What a bunch of idiots.

Errr...

Go ahead and follow MS off the cliff and then wonder why your business is collapsing.

I think their business is far from collapsing, I also thing there are absolutely zero similarities to what they do and what MS is doing/has done. There is a very very very big difference between releasing your games day and date on other platforms and releasing some of them 18-24 months later on other platforms.

And do you really think someone that has only $450 to spend on a gaming platform is going to buy or build a PC and skip the PlayStation because the games may come 2 years later?

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Of course there will still be some players around. Not everyone is going to make pcs.

But if PS6 is $799, one could just make a PC and play everything there. Its certainly a very compelling option.

My guess is only hardcore 15-20 million fans will remain.

The hardcore is the PC gamer, not the console users.

 

[lh032]

PSN subscription on steam, lets go.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

The hardcore is the PC gamer, not the console users.

Exactly, nerds here think regular people are happy with the idea of building PCs and know what a GPU is.

Consoles are successful for a reason, nice and easy for anyone to use.

Look at how home PC use plummeted when iPads arrived on the scene.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

You must not have heard of Nintendo.

But furthermore, even if the console is sold at a $50 -$100 profit, it would still be cheaper than the PC equivalent by over 40-50%.

Nintendo success means jack shit. They swing all the way from WiiU to Switch. Its pure luck which side they will fall in the future.

PC/PS/Xbox are more stable platforms with repeat customers. If next Mario / Zelda failed to grab people’s attention, it will be again a languishing platform.

As for PS6 being cheaper, it wont be for long. New GPUs with advanced feature set release every 2 yrs.

Series X was high value platform at launch where it saw most of its sales. These days its match for entry level GPU.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Might as well just go all out and release all games day 1 on PC. Are there really that many PC gamers who will buy a PS5 so they don’t have to wait for the PC port of PlayStation Studios games?

I can’t imagine that would make much of a dent in their console sales or their PS5 game sales. I think that the value proposition + ease of use of consoles are much bigger motivators than “get your hands on Sony’s games a little earlier”

 

[simpatico]

It's working. I bought TLOU1 last night. Finally got down to a reasonable price.

 

[Luipadre]

For now

 

[tmlDan]

Of course there will still be some players around. Not everyone is going to make pcs.

But if PS6 is $799, one could just make a PC and play everything there. Its certainly a very compelling option.

My guess is only hardcore 15-20 million fans will remain.

PC's are more expensive and extremely inconvenient, especially gaming PC's.

People like simple, plug in and play.

 

[Madflavor]

No it won't

Yup. The price for high end pc gaming will always be a huge gate for a lot of people, especially in this economy. It’s for people who have money to burn, or are enthusiastic enough about their hobby to work towards saving up for a good PC.

That said I’m glad Sony is going this route.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Errr...

I think their business is far from collapsing, I also thing there are absolutely zero similarities to what they do and what MS is doing/has done. There is a very very very big difference between releasing your games day and date on other platforms and releasing some of them 18-24 months later on other platforms.

And do you really think someone that has only $450 to spend on a gaming platform is going to buy or build a PC and skip the PlayStation because the games may come 2 years later?

People don't understand that two companies can have the same or similar strategy but different execution.

More importantly, I don't think Day 1 PC is what hurt Xbox rather the lack of AAA games and Day 1 GamePass is what hurt them. Day 1 GamePass meant they had to limit their budgets, something that Sony mentioned and were mocked for (again different execution and strategy).

People like to convince themselves that people are clamoring to buy PCs to game rather than consoles, but x,y,z is holding them back. It just isn't true. Consoles have never been the most powerful way to play games. Arcades were always more powerful. PC was always potentially more powerful. Just like handhelds have never been the most powerful way to play. Consoles create a boutique experience that people want. They also offer the best performance for the dollar. That isn't going to change.

That being said Sony realizes gaming isn't just console and they're sleeping on markets by not being involved. That's why they're involved in VR, that's why they're getting involved in PC, and that's why they'll return to handheld, and enter mobile.

 

[Fabieter]

It's literally impossible that it doesn't stay the focus.

Their games come to PS over 18 months before showing up on PC, and compared to PC, their games sell on the console by well over a 5:1 average.

All that has to be reversed before anyone can say the PC has become the focus.

Hasn't Xbox taught you anything?

I would argue that consoles are no longer the main focus for Xbox. It's only a matter of time before we see Sony launch a store on PC, which will likely include trophies and digital purchases carrying over. While I doubt cloud gaming will be the primary focus anytime soon, it’s definitely going to become increasingly important over time. With hardware costs rising, many people may prefer cloud gaming for a monthly fee rather than investing in physical consoles. To me, this feels like PR, similar to what we've seen from Phil Spencer.

 

[cormack12]

I think this is the best balance that doesn't upset the apple cart too much.

Loyal core PlayStation customers get day 1, new 1st party highly acclaimed titles. And PC players can get it 12-18 months later to push their hardware again as they stop playing balatro, skyrim, minecraft, counter strike and war craft for a few months

 

[Physiognomonics]

Source: https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUC105XT0Q4A910C2000000/ (paywalled)
Source: reddit


Playstation co-CEO:
"We are trying to increase the overall game market by expanding content to PCs. There is no doubt that home consoles will be the core of our business, but by offering titles for devices other than home consoles, we will reach a wider range of customers."

Great, same strategy MS is desesperatly trying to do since XB1. Does it work MS?

The wider range of customers is a fallacy. We see PC players don't buy their single player AAA games. They dont. This money is nothing compared to what they do with MTX on their own store. What's happening is that consoles players are fed up about the prices and services and are starting to go to PC ecosystem giving their money to Nvidia, Steam and a bit to Sony. But overall, they are going to lose marketshare and money. Why don't they see it as super obvious is beyond me. I think at this point they are doing whatever their uninformed (western) strategists tell them to do: PC, GAAS, Woke, multiplayer !

 

[adamsapple]

If they truly go digital and start releasing games within one year of their PS release there will be no reason to get a PlayStation 5.

Two first party games, Until Dawn and Lego Horizon, are already launching day 1 on PC later this year.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

PC's are more expensive and extremely inconvenient, especially gaming PC's.

People like simple, plug in and play.

Gaming PCs are going to be cheaper than unsubsidised consoles.

RTX 5xxx series is coming. My guess is a 5060ti outperform PS5pro for a $7-800 system price.

 

[Hookshot]

Two first party games, Until Dawn and Lego Horizon, are already launching day 1 on PC later this year.

Don't forget they are whoring themselves out to Nintendo as well.

 

[King Dazzar]

Of course there will still be some players around. Not everyone is going to make pcs.

But if PS6 is $799, one could just make a PC and play everything there. Its certainly a very compelling option.

My guess is only hardcore 15-20 million fans will remain.

And when do you predict this, my green blooded harbinger of doom?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Well duhhh, it's not like they didn't say that since Shawn Layden started talking about their Gaas-Strategy.

In fact, the drama surrounding Concord, the discussion about FairGame$ and Marathon and Gaas in general will only affirm this rhetoric for Sony.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

And when do you predict this, my green blooded harbinger of doom?

PS7 launch.

Will take while for people to realise.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It's over.