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PlayStation VR Launch Thread: Welcome to The Real World
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Bubble Walrus
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Personally, I am feeling less and less nauseous, each time I play RIGS. Going to dial back the comfort settings, soon.
The Vive is 150k worldwide to date give or take and that was released 6 months ago. Just something to think about...
LittleBigGamer
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My first post here and I have the same problem. I can't find a Move controller...
I have one already but for games like job simulation isn't enough. It was difficult for me to find the PS camera and is also difficult or impossible to find a single move controller!
come on Sony...
Steve McQueen
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That's good to hear. Do you know if these settings are in the demo too? I wanna try them, if possible, before opening the game.
xKilltheMx
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This really puts it in perspective. Reasonably priced VR is the best for mass market penetration.
It's the wrong thread, but what is that based on?
I don't know if this helps, but from my experience:
I hated the demo. It controlled awful and the head turning felt WAY too sensitive. But I had already bought the game at launch. Still, I went into the full game more hopeful and it controls WAY better. Probably just better calibration in the beginning. Or something.
I've also learned today that the Job Simulator demo is a PC port, and that the full game is actually better adjusted to support PSVR (being 180 degree focused instead of 360). So I'm starting to wonder about the demos vs the actual games a bit. Not that I'm complaining about having many robust demos to try, but so far my experience with the full products has been much more positive.
EDIT: I should add that I don't get motion sickness. Haven't had it once during PSVR or irl. So in terms of that I do not know how you will feel playing the full copy of rigs.
Gamestop has pre-owned ones for $25 each, or a 2-pack of new controllers for $100.
Ok ok, here's what I need to emphasize not just to you but to EVERYONE considering RIGS but worried about motion sickness. The tutorial in this game is fantastic. It gives you a rundown on everything and how the game controls, but what it doesn't not tell you enough about is how customizable the controls really are.
You have two VR newbie toggles (goggle effect and minimal eject) which I would recommend you keep on until you're ready to turn them off. That stuff is obvious, BUT here's what I think helps the most: turn speed and deadzone and turn angle.
Out of the gate you can choose to turn with the right stick or with your head while always aiming your weapons with your eyes. You're given the option to try both in the tutorial. But AFTER you try both, you're going to be taken outside. When you are outside, mess around with the Turn Speed and Deadzone and find where you are most comfortable. I found that no deadzone works best for me, I like my turn angle to be two notches higher than default and my turn speed to be one notch higher than default.
Definitely take your time setting yourself up, but it's SO worth the time to do so because now I'm playing this game and feeling like I'm in complete control and haven't felt any nausia since.
The Lamonster
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How do you guys feel about Scavengers Odyssey and Danger Ball?
Don't see them mentioned too often here.
Don't see them mentioned too often here.
The_Inquisitor
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If I play scavengers odyssey I go out for the count. Maybe in a few weeks I can finish without having fun to lie down
Yup, for my case it's different. No deadzone is best for me on the stick. And I use the highest turn speed possible.
bumpkin
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I like both. Scavenger's Odyssey seriously makes me wish Nintendo were in the VR game and did a Metroid. My only complaint is it's the first game on PSVR that made me a bit queasy, but only when I got to a part with a lot of upside-down action.
And Danger Ball, though simple, surprised the shit out of me with its nuance. I instinctively moved the panel as I struck the ball like you would in Arkanoid to get directional momentum and to my surprise it gave the ball a wicked curve/spin. I only meant to play one round to try it and ended up doing half a dozen.
I don't really see how VR is any different to letting a child watch TV through a pair of glasses. I assumed this was just some standard legal statement, due to a lack of specific age related research.
Price Drop
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Returned mine this week. Had fun with it over the weekend but it's not a must-have for me yet. Most of the games are great 10 to 15 minute experiences and anything long-term starts to be waning, partly due to the low resolution.
My favorite was definitely the Kitchen demo, it just sells the concept so well. But things start to get tricky when there are titles with forward motion and more headset movement. It can be dizzying, nauseating, and generally uneasy for a sector of people, which is something that will hamper its appeal and value.
It's a great start for VR though, but I think the second gen headset will be a much better experience.
My favorite was definitely the Kitchen demo, it just sells the concept so well. But things start to get tricky when there are titles with forward motion and more headset movement. It can be dizzying, nauseating, and generally uneasy for a sector of people, which is something that will hamper its appeal and value.
It's a great start for VR though, but I think the second gen headset will be a much better experience.
Yep I can agree with this. On my third big session I turned head tracking up just a little and turned the comfort mask off. When I first played it, I wasn't sure if I'd get over the little bit of illness I was feeling, but I have mostly now. I believe in the 'growing VR legs' thing people have been talking about now.
cyberheater
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Scavengers Odyssey leaves me feeling a bit nauseas after a while due to it's artificial locomotion.
For me it would have been a lot more comfortable with instant teleporting.
This was during July about 3 months after the Vive released. About 100k sold.
http://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-sales-figures-data-100000-steamspy-data/
Then this article was from September.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/281563/Raw_Data_becomes_first_VR_title_to_hit_1M_in_a_month.php
Based off this quote:
You can do the math with how much the game costs and the percentage they revealed that it was about 150k sold when that article hit.
Steve McQueen
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Thanks so much guys! Good to know that the tutorial is ace.
Slixshot, do you happen to know if you can configure the controls ( turnspeed, deadzone etc. ) in the demo ? Thanks in advance.
The Lamonster
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I've never felt sick in VR, and I love that sensation of movement, so I think having options would be ideal. I appreciate that some games have similar options, like Rez and Rigs.
What other PSVR games have "sensitivity" options like that?
I only played it once before knowing I wanted the whole thing, but if memory serves me right, you cannot in the demo.
cyberheater
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I'm okay with moving forward but strafing has me instantly feeling uncomfortable.
gunstarhero
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Oh and I'll reiterate what I said last night:
PLAY RIGS! It's practically all I can think about after having experienced it last night.
I have to echo this - the game is so fucking good. More people should be talking (and playing!) about this game instead.
panda-zebra
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Played Scavengers Odyssey last night, first 3 levels. Pretty impressed with the sense of scale, traversal (pretty thrilling) and generally being in the mech and doing stuff (more so than the rigs demo that felt a bit meh tbh, despite looking amazing). The voice constantly wittering on got a bit too much. Kept thinking my feet were spiders and freaking out lol.
Not sure how much more there is but I'd hope it would be more varied - just not expecting it to be. Doubt I'd re-play it for the challenges.
Steve McQueen
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Aw...damn. But everyone is raving about this game, so gonna try the demo again tonight and if it feels slightly better, I'll go for the full game.
mckmas8808
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Can't tell you how many times I reloaded that part just to smoke the cigar lol. Like I was trying to blow "Os" with the smoke and everything.
If that's your goal, sure.
It never was for the Vive and Rift. They got the ball rolling though (like three feet, but still).
Then you have the Steam survey (not polls but automatic system scans) indicating that the ratio of Vive to Oculus Rift CV1 is 2:1. I would think Steam usage/overlap amongst Rift owners is in the great, great majority and that this would be a good percentage indication.
Grindlefly
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After Bladerunner
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And Wing Commander - eve graphics with the wing commander story, with the cut scenes as 360 videos
(I know this can't be done but I can dream lol)
Apparently it's only an effect of moving closer to the camera because the cord isn't as long.
Neuromancer
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Has anyone tried the shooting gallery in London Heist? How is it?
Yep sorry I didn't update here I went to sleep. But yeah it was getting closer is the reason it has no wobble. This is the my thread with updates https://m.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/588r93?sort=top&utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true
mckmas8808
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Dude it's amazing. Some of the best $20 you can spend on your PS4.
Outtrigger888
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Anyone else has slight glare on the left corner of the left eye and right corner of the right eye? I have the headset completely smashed against my face. I'm assuming I have the thing to close.
Jacksinthe
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Not glare, thems the lights. Pull back a click.
Anyone else try this?
Please report back because this is THE major issue I need fixed on my unit that's making it harder and harder to jump back in.
The problem with that thinking really is though while the Vive and Rift are more advanced, if developers aren't jumping in because the numbers aren't there, then content will suffer as we've already seen with the Vive and Rift. This isn't a competition really, but the more devs jump in the better and we'll only see more of that with the PSVR finally having come out.
The tech doesn't matter if there's no games taking advantage of it.
Steve McQueen
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Should be in the OT asap. Great post!
The Lamonster
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anyone?
Okay, I'm totally copying this. Amazon link: https://amzn.com/B00XQH8Y9I
It's boring. I also hate the reload mechanic. Just get Until Dawn if you want to shoot stuff.
dragonflys545
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Need a full London Heist experience! That was so fucking good!
I've never played anything like that ever! I felt like a kid again experience video game for the first time.
GitarooMan
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I really get the sense that the wobble is a distance from the camera and/or angle thing because when I am seated for games and playing 5 feet away I get no wobble (and less drift although still some). But when I have to stand for Arkham VR/Job Sim (and you have to generally stand a bit further away than I sit to fit the tracking calibration for Arkham VR), the minor wobbling begins.
To be fair, for me at least it's more immersion breaking than actually game breaking (I finished Arkham VR fine). In Arkham it is obvious on things like the piano at the beginning, which can jitter a bit instead of being fully stable. For me at least I have little issue with the move controllers and more with the world jitter.
To be fair, for me at least it's more immersion breaking than actually game breaking (I finished Arkham VR fine). In Arkham it is obvious on things like the piano at the beginning, which can jitter a bit instead of being fully stable. For me at least I have little issue with the move controllers and more with the world jitter.
Oh wow... this would explain so much, and kinda makes a lot of sense.
Edit: Unless removing extension simply means you are sitting close to camera, and that is the reason it stops wobbling... :/
Edit: turns out that's all it is...
GitarooMan
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Also, anecdotally, I played Scavenger's Odyssey today and that game made me feel a bit queasy faster than anything else (I've played stuff like RIGS, Battlezone, Driveclub demo and only RIGS after a long while gave me a minor hint of queasiness). Nothing major though, but it came on relatively quick.
And there's the misconception. I promise you, as a Vive owner, plenty of games do. Lots of good ones too.
Now I don't disagree that cheaper solutions that are more mainstream are incredibly important in ensuring we see more then just independent releases, and in that regard Sony nailed it - and owners of other headsets will reap the benefits.
But the no games narrative is why Vive and Oculus owners get on edge in these discussions, compounded when we see ports of games already out, getting praise as awesome VR experiences.
Genuinely feels like if it's on the PC it doesn't count.
Also, the market needs companies like HTC and Oculus to trailblaze on the cutting edge. It's tech that eventually makes its way into more affordable platforms (and the independent scene is where what works and what doesn't is usually born from)
Hope I make more sense. The entire VR market, like consoles and PCs, is a symbiotic one
AnythingBut
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After getting rid of the anti-chunder ui option and getting used to headtracking, rigs is the chuffing bollocks!
Cooler than a eskimos nutsack.
Cooler than a eskimos nutsack.
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