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Pluto New Horizons |OT| New images. Pluto/Charon still geologically active

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GK86

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Jupiter is king.

King is nice and all, but the queen is the star of our solar system:

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ivysaur12

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Who remembers the Voyager 2 flyby of Uranus in 1986 and Neptune in 1989?

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It's about that time again!

It's so strange how pale and consistent this picture of Uranus is (har har, but really). It's like if you used the paint bucket to fill light blue on a planet. I realize they took better pictures later but it's so featureless.
 
I always find it strange that real pictures of planets look so fake to me. I have no idea why I think like that.

It's probably because there is virtually nothing between the planet and the camera to obstruct the view. It's almost all light out there. It looks so clear out there in space.
 

duderon

rollin' in the gutter
It's probably because there is virtually nothing between the planet and the camera to obstruct the view. It's almost all light out there. It looks so clear out there in space.

That and planets are so large it's impossible to comprehend the scale of the object you're looking at.
 
That and planets are so large it's impossible to comprehend the scale of the object you're looking at.

For sure, no matter how much you know about space you still can't comprehend it. The greatest scientific minds at NASA still don't realize the scale at which they are looking. There is nothing near planets to give you an idea scale of how utterly gigantic the thing you are looking at is, especially the gas giants.

If you could truly see the scale of what you are looking at, like say the earth next to Jupiter / Saturn your mind would be blown. Obviously though that's impossible as everyone on Earth would be dead haha
 
Did they ever come up with a theory on why the great red spot goes on?

Keep in mind, what may seem like lifetimes for us is just a blink of an eye to non-earthly objects.

The Great Red Spot storm has been around for about 200-400 earth years, which is only 20-40 Jovian years. And supposedly the storm will dissipate in another 20-40 Jovian years. Considering gas giants like Jupiter are billions of years old, this is only a micro-scopic drop in the bucket in terms of time.

My point is, a Jovian entity might see the Great Red Spot the same way we see a brief afternoon thunderstorm. When it comes to space, you have to think on a completely different scale.
 

RyanDG

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Earth sized asteroid? I don't believe there is any asteroid's in the solar system the size of Earth.....huge yes but no Earth sized unless I'm missing something?

I think if I remember correctly, the explosion was the size of the earth, not the asteroid itself.
 

cameron

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Question, with the sun so far away, if we are near will planets appear as bright as the pictures to us or just really dark to the naked eye?

I don't think the recent pictures of Pluto and Charon from New Horizons are overexposed. The perceived brightness would be similar to the pictures if you looked outside a window on a spacecraft that flew by Pluto.
 

HTupolev

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This shit had to have been so cool for people of the time. The Voyagers were old news by the time I was old enough to appreciate them.
Voyager is old news, but the program has still been making weirdly relevant observations due to sheer location. Voyager 1 may be a relic of 1970s tech kept alive by a faltering chunk of plutonium, but it's a relic of 1970s tech that's way the hell out in the interstellar medium, and it's still talking to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXRrpdYlgrY

There is! It's not even a theory. Even better. It's a theorem. A result from mathematics. And one of the best named theorems in all of mathematics. The Hairy Ball Theorem. "If you have a hairy ball and you try and comb it, you can never comb it flat."

In better terms, the Hairy Ball Theorem states that anytime you have wind blowing over a spherical surface, there exists at least one point where there is no wind blowing. That is, it's impossible for the wind to blow everywhere. It's possible for the air to be completely still everywhere, but if you allow any movement, you will inevitably get one point where there is no wind blowing. The point is the eye of a cyclone.

Now, the Hairy Ball Theorem doesn't state that Jupiter's big red spot must always exist as it does. Only that there will always be some cyclone going. So, I suppose, in truth, I'm not really answering your question precisely as you asked it, but I think this is an interesting result that's fun to share because it's a theorem from topology that has real world results in a very cool way.
The issue is complicated by atmospheres not really being 2-spheres.
 

Chuckie

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It's so strange how pale and consistent this picture of Uranus is (har har, but really). It's like if you used the paint bucket to fill light blue on a planet. I realize they took better pictures later but it's so featureless.

Are there even better pics? :O How come I have never seen any of these.

I've been out of the loop for like.... 20 years or so :/
Just discovered awesome pictures of Europa and Triton. I needs moar.

I assume all pictures can be found on the NASA site?
 
So how possible is it that they are making mistakes about Eris` diameter and mass? In the article linked she makes it sound as if they have concrete data for Eris.

Pluto's atmosphere is what made it difficult to precisely measure its diameter from Earth (I expect it distorts the light coming from Pluto a little bit), while Eris doesn't have an atmosphere so it doesn't have that problem.
 

sono

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The Nasa app is saying under 4 hours 45 mins to closest Pluto encounter and the spacecraft is currently surveying the Pluto moon Nix..

We are travelling at 30,819miles per hour

so awesome..
 

sono

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Now surveying the outermost Pluto moon Hydra..

Of the 5 pluto moons, Hydra and Nix were only recently discovered in 2005 by The Hubble Space Telescope

The other 3 moons are Charon and Styx and Kerberos. Charon is so large in relation to Pluto that the gravity center (Barycenter) of the Pluto Charon combination lies outside Pluto!

Its seems incredible to me that Pluto is so relatively small (less than our moon and one fifteenth the gravity of earth.,that itself would be capable of having no less than 5 moons)

4 hours 18 mins to closest Pluto encounter..
 

Lime

Member
I remember coming home and seeing that on the news.

Amazing how much more we know since I've been alive.

I remember the Neptune flyby much more because I watched nights of live NASA coverage (you can find some on youtube).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y11CVuxfvPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDbEvz-gr1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y038-R3kwfw

Totally unrelated but this was the right around the time that Sega and NEC were launching the Genesis and TurboGrafx-16 in the U.S.

Man, that sounds amazing to have experienced. Thanks for sharing both of you.
 
Screw the outer planets.
TERRESTRIAL PLANETS REPRESENT!

To be fair, some of the most interesting objects in our solar system are moons (Io's intense volcanic activity, Europa's, Ganymede's, and Enceladus's saltwater oceans, and Titan's hydrocarbon lakes. Seven are bigger than Pluto and would be planets in their own right, if not bound in the gravity of the huge gas giants.


And to bring it back to New Horizons, it caught this amazing animation of a volcano on Io spewing material 330km above the surface when NH used Jupiter's gravity for a speed boost. When you consider Io is about the same size as our moon, imagine looking up in the sky and seeing a volcano eruption like that.
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Chuckie

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Wow...that is awesome! I am seeing all kinds of new stuff here.

Is Io really that colorful or has an artist been having a bit too much fun with photoshop?
 

Ecotic

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I want to steal Europa away and pull it into Earth orbit. The ice will melt and we'll have a habitable second moon.
 
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