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Pokémon Go |OT 2| Servers...gotta crash 'em all!
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Curious to see what they use for IV calculation, https://thesilphroad.com/research is giving me different stats on the same Poké's.
PeakPointMatrix
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Oh yeah, look at that huge goal post move from the first time I mentioned the exact same thing in a post before you even posted your level 18 screenshot, which is the first time I even noticed your level.
Nice try though bud.
bananafactory
Banned
Which pokemon is this? Maybe I don't wanna know since I couldn't find it at all..
Ghastly, looks like
Are you calling me out for not remembering a post you made in response to someone that wasn't me prior to this level 20 discussion between us? I wasn't paying attention to your post because I was replying to other people. What a joke. You should have brought it up in your first reply to me instead of dragging this out over multiple posts.
PeakPointMatrix
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Which pokemon is this? Maybe I don't wanna know since I couldn't find it at all..
Ghastly
Also, quote your images, shit's huuuuge on desktop
It's definitely Ghastly.
BattleMonkey
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You got to beat a gym multiple times to take it, each time you beat it, it goes down a level till you break it down and can get in.
Not what I meant. We're Team Mystic and it was an Instinct gym, we got the level to zero, then it became a Valor gym with multiple Pokemon before we could get our Pokemon in. Then when we got the Valor gym to zero there was another three Valor Pokemon in, and we had to take it over again.
There were some people round so I imagine it might be their Pokemon we were facing, but I didn't see anyone else who was looking at their phones.
I completely agree with the post-20 difficulty being amped up. Before these recent updates (version .29), it was obvious to both my and my partner prior to even discussing this online or in-person anywhere else (we primarily played the game outdoors and never consulted any online advice). Things noticeably escape more easily.
The only other additional commentary I have is that adjusting the curve-ball mechanics has definitely made things more difficult for catching monsters that are further away from the camera. Sans Zubats/Golbats, prior to this change, I've been able to catch any other Pokemon at any distance with curve balls; the furthest ones requiring some repeated effort but still possible.
The current mechanic makes the successful curve angle so low, I often hit the edge of the screen, cancelling out my throw completely. This also makes it difficult to get a long enough throw stride for far-off Pokemon, so I'm forced to use a straight throw now for even non-Zubat/Golbat flying types, making me vulnerable to that randomized wind mechanic (which I thankfully haven't seen yet in this recent update).
I can't really comment on recent escape rates as the current state of the game has turned me off from going out to hunt. These last few days, I can't count how many times I've seen totally different monsters pop up from what appears in my nearby list.
We met someone here literally sprinting around the lot looking for the Snorlax silhouette that appeared in the first-position slot on his Nearby list. When we bumped into him again, despite him being soaked in sweat from running every which way, he came up empty. That disappointment is going to resonate.
This, along with other aspects of the game which made it moreappealingaddictive, is a stark contrast to when I first played: I saw a Snorlax silhouette and casually walked down the street, meandering a bit and finally found him. That doesn't exist now.
The only other additional commentary I have is that adjusting the curve-ball mechanics has definitely made things more difficult for catching monsters that are further away from the camera. Sans Zubats/Golbats, prior to this change, I've been able to catch any other Pokemon at any distance with curve balls; the furthest ones requiring some repeated effort but still possible.
The current mechanic makes the successful curve angle so low, I often hit the edge of the screen, cancelling out my throw completely. This also makes it difficult to get a long enough throw stride for far-off Pokemon, so I'm forced to use a straight throw now for even non-Zubat/Golbat flying types, making me vulnerable to that randomized wind mechanic (which I thankfully haven't seen yet in this recent update).
I can't really comment on recent escape rates as the current state of the game has turned me off from going out to hunt. These last few days, I can't count how many times I've seen totally different monsters pop up from what appears in my nearby list.
We met someone here literally sprinting around the lot looking for the Snorlax silhouette that appeared in the first-position slot on his Nearby list. When we bumped into him again, despite him being soaked in sweat from running every which way, he came up empty. That disappointment is going to resonate.
This, along with other aspects of the game which made it more
PeakPointMatrix
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It literally is in my first reply to you. I literally wrote "come back when you're level 20". What do you think that implies? That I'm at least level 20. I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass, otherwise my whole post makes no sense. And don't get upset, you're the one who brought up moving goal posts. I bring up my original post citing the same issue to show I actually moved nothing. My point was unchanged. You telling me I'm moving goal posts is yet another unnecessary deflection on the real issues people lvl 20 and up are having.
It's okay to be wrong dude. I'd be the first to admit such a thing if it were on my end. Why keep doubling down?
EDIT: yet another post above this one citing the same issues!
Madnesslink5
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They're not calculated, they're read directly from the API, meaning they are the definitive correct values. The ones from silphroad calculators and such usually give a range, and the value from pokeadvisor should lie within that range - if not then then that calculated iv range is incorrect.
Madnesslink5
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I disagree with the hardness of catching pokemon - in terms of their escape rate I believe to be the same, though quite possible that they do more animations/dodging than before.
I do strongly agree with the change of curveball mechanics, I used to be able to catch almost any mon (except zubats etc) with a 1-handed curveball, now I struggle even with two hands, especially when the monster is centred near the top of the screen.
Snkfanatic
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It's sad and hilarous to me that I get bummed out whenever PTC servers or GO is down in general and I have to walk a lot to do something. xD
I love walking to hatch the eggs and of course you never know when something will pop up.
I love walking to hatch the eggs and of course you never know when something will pop up.
I get too many potions. Actually even more revives than potions. Wish I got more PokéBalls...
Exact oposite for me lol I need pokeballs asap!
And btw, everything, except the UI, is server controlled, so the updates have nothing to do on item dropping, types of pokemon showing, gym fights balance...
"Come back when you're level 20" to me was just elitist gloating. That's how I took it. That's not an explanation, it's a throw away line that sounds like a secret brag. It's snark. You typing that line to me is so different to what you said above. It's not the same in the slightest. Don't make a whole post and have one line and act like because you had that one line the post was magically all about it and I should have magically understood. "Come back when you're level 20" communicates nothing to me. I asked to to explain it for me, then I'd stop bringing it up. You chose not to. You chose to be snarky instead. I didn't see your post replying to someone else. Why didn't you just link me to it or say "look at my poat above" instead? It would have been so much simpler and would have avoided these posts being made.
And that second paragraph really wasn't needed.
Also, now you have other 20+ players disagreeing with you. What now? Are they wrong too?
Fox Mulder
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My brother applied for refunds on ios. Lol at this mess.
Opposite here. Swimming in potions and regular Pokeballs. Get next to 0 Great/Ultra balls since I went up above level 20.
Don't agree with people asking for refunds either. I definitely got my money's worth for what I've spent. Luckily I'm more in the steadily filling out my Pokédex and not the gym capturing.
I'm also willing to give Niantic some time to fix issues like the tracker. But they really really need to come alive in interacting with their community they've lucked into.
Don't agree with people asking for refunds either. I definitely got my money's worth for what I've spent. Luckily I'm more in the steadily filling out my Pokédex and not the gym capturing.
I'm also willing to give Niantic some time to fix issues like the tracker. But they really really need to come alive in interacting with their community they've lucked into.
Madnesslink5
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They could have quite easily done a server update that coincided with the client update, though I'm with you I think all the change in catch rates and item's from pokestops etc is all people looking for patterns where there isn't any.
I feel like the curveball bonus is completely removed from the actual act of throwing a curveball in game. Whenever I manage to curve it, stars exploding and everything, no bonus/acknowledgement when caught. But the random poke balls that go straight at the Pokemon will get the bonus. It's weird.
Waylon Drums
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The only thing I've noticed with Pokestops is that I seem to get fewer great and ultra balls but I was never that lucky in that department anyway.
Glitchesarecool
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"Mess."
Yes there are some problems with the game updates so far. But what I don't get is the fact that my fiancee and friends are still having so much fun with the game. We just go out for walks and stops and catch what we can catch. I don't understand why people are taking this so seriously? Where all the negativity of the game comes from? It's still enjoyable even if they're taking certain functions out.
Plus who knows what might come in the future?
Having to throw away the pokeballs cos need potions. Having to resort to using revives and letting them faint when attacking gyms and saving potions for when they are removed from gyms.
I'm gonna try this next time I try to catch something. My curveballs always hit the Pokemon arouns the top/head area. I wonder if I can just throw it normally and get the bonus too.
jasminlovesyoux
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The escape rate is absolutely higher after the update. Pidgeys used to be a no brainer easy catch and I'd collect em all for exp. After the update, they flee and ball break like crazy. Level 27 before and after the update. So something definitely changed.
I use great balls for everything over 300 CP now. They work much much better than the standard pokeball.
I use great balls for everything over 300 CP now. They work much much better than the standard pokeball.
I'll be quite curious to see if you can replicate it!
I thought this has always been the standard? I mean, I got lucky like once or twice with higher CP Pokemon and pokeballs but typically have been throwing out great balls at those levels.
chrominance
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Oh yeah, I was responding to someone who said the latest update changed it so eggs recorded distance at driving speeds. My experience matches yours.
You do get EXP bonuses for Nice/Great/Excellent still, from what I can tell. I admit I haven't been watching every result screen super closely, but I definitely get a lot of bonuses and I really don't think they're all curveballs, since I rarely use them. You don't get the throw bonus if your LAST throw wasn't a Nice/Great/Excellent, even if one of your previous throws was, but that has always been the case since the game launched.
Sometimes it feels like there are more urban legends surrounding this patch than there were around the original game.
I was using regular for anything below 500cp and was doing amazing. If they escaped more than once I would move to the Great ball. Unless it was a Pokemon I hadn't captured or one I see rarely I never had to Great ball under 500cp. Now I have Pokemon's under 100cp breaking out of 5+ regular Pokeballs with berries.
PeakPointMatrix
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"Even though you said a thing, I chose not to believe it because it was snark." That's your rebuttal?
Let's say it was actually was snark (it wasn't, you simply need to actually be level 20 and up to notice these issues which is why I said it), and I was bragging. That still implies that I'm at least level 20. Otherwise, you're assuming the "brag" is a lie. Does everything need to be spelled out to you for it to stick?
"Don't make a whole post and have one line and act like because you had that one line the post was magically all about it and I should have magically understood."Like... what? Not only does it not need to be more than one line if you actually took the time to read the post, it's the first line of the post! It frames the entire post and my statements afterward. Do I need to write it over and over? Your rushing so fast to reply and defend this game from so many people, you're brushing over their statements and getting egg on your face for it.
And to your last remark concerning other level 20+ players "disagreeing with me" I'd say they're vastly out numbered with those experiencing the opposite. So while they're not wrong, their experiences are proving to be the exception to most 20+ players.
If I can replicate it it'll make getting that 10 extra XP much easier lol.
And yeah, I tend to go for Great Balls with anything basic over 200cp. Better than wasting Pokeballs.
It's not that I chose not to believe it, it's because it came off as gloating snark. Pokemon have naturally gotten to higher CP as I've levelled up and become harder than when I started the game over time. I would naturally expect that when you're in the 20s too. To me it came off as "come back when you're my level", not an explanation.
I wanted an explanation. You originally didn't provide one. Sorry a single line I interpreted as snark didn't solve everything. I appreciate that you gave a more detailled explanation, but it was really rude the way you phrased the second post. It rubbed me the wrong way because it felt like you intentionally wasted my time when you should have been more clear before. I didn't understand initially. One line didn't cut it. Sorry about that.
brokenwatch
Member
I know this is sad but I have started leaving work intentionally during rush hour to get stuck in stop and go traffic. All of my 10km eggs hatch by the time I get home. lol
I also ran into a Pidgeot today that was literally so far away that I wasn't able to hit it. Has that happened to anyone else?
Icyflamez96
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I know if won't happen, but kinda wish I can prioritize what Pokestops would give me. Like either Anything, Potions, Balls or Revives/etc. Currently, I only have 3 potions, 2 super potions and 1 hyper potion. I really need a lot of potions currently.
Be nice if Pokemon recover HP over time slowly.
Be nice if Pokemon recover HP over time slowly.
billmcdougal
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Maybe I misunderstand, but you say, before, you would use 1 regular ball and then switch to great if they escaped more than once, and you're comparing that to, now, throwing 5+ regular balls for some reason?
Yeah it's just weird how there seems to be a complete reversal for both me and the gf after the update. Sitting on 300+ balls constantly and not nearly enough potions to fight in the 2-3 gyms we want to take. Before yesterday we were always tossing potions and still filling them up fast. Guess it's just RNG.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I don't feel the catch rate between pokeball and great ball was as drastic as it is now. And I think this is why people are having a hard time catching, because they're using pokeballs and they are actually weak now. You can see the circle indicator change color when you swap balls. Prior to the update the difference in color between pokeball and greatball wasnt that significant. Now it certainly is. I used to catch 1k CP Pokemon with pokeballs all the time using the quick throw method. Now that's gone, and the pokeballs certainly have a worse capture rate. I think they changed it so the other balls are much more important now, which makes sense to me. Wouldn't be surprised if they add great and ultra balls to the shop.
Probably a good idea. I'm sick of arguing about it now.
Get on my level. 141 Drowzee.
Had a weird thing happen to me while I was attempting to catch a Ratatta. You know how sometimes the app will freeze during the catch animation, where you're forced to close the app and restart and hope that it registered as a catch?
Well, it happened again...but this time it froze for like a second and said "Gotcha, Ratatta was caught". No pokemon struggling, just frozen, and then caught.
I'm sure other people have seen it already, just thought it was interesting.
Also, I'm a level 19 and I'm noticing how much harder it is to catch Pokemon. This was before I even caught up with this thread, started noticing immediately after the most recent update.
Also, holy crap this app is crashing a lot more often for me.
Well, it happened again...but this time it froze for like a second and said "Gotcha, Ratatta was caught". No pokemon struggling, just frozen, and then caught.
I'm sure other people have seen it already, just thought it was interesting.
Also, I'm a level 19 and I'm noticing how much harder it is to catch Pokemon. This was before I even caught up with this thread, started noticing immediately after the most recent update.
Also, holy crap this app is crashing a lot more often for me.
So I have been mapping a bit of pokespawns around my home, so far I have only found one spawn within 70 meters, and then there has been one or two pokemon spawning outside that I have seen before.
But despite having noe spawns within the 70 meter range I always get a full radar display. Anyone know what's up with that?
But despite having noe spawns within the 70 meter range I always get a full radar display. Anyone know what's up with that?
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