That'd be a lot more fun.
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That'd be a lot more fun.
People should just ignore that guy because he doesn't deserve the attention. Dude has been full of himself for years and I will never side with him on an argument.
AFAIK Wolfe and Verlisify got into a spat on twitter over clones and "legal" hacks (basically hacks that look the same as the real thing).
Sorta unrelated, but I remember watching Verlisify's strategy stuff on youtube and man... I don't think he really knew what he was talking about x_x.
I think this would have more consequences than you think. In Battle Spot Singles, Cresselia and Suicune are basically life savers against really dangerous stuff like Mega Kangaskhan and Mega Salamence. I'd argue that a lot of these legendaries such as Entei and Mega Latias bring something interesting into Battle Spot Singles, and also note that Sheer Cold Suicune isn't usable in ORAS because of the pentagon rule.
I think the best solution is to just revamp the horrible IV system, but otherwise, I think gamefreak should at least give legendaries like 5 flawless IVs if they aren't gonna change it. I mean they're legendary right? Why not have legendary stats!
He doesn't, but thinks everyone else is beneath him.
PreyingShark
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*Sees if Verlisify has uploaded anything*
"VGCHEATING! Why Rule-breaking SHOULD BE PUNISHED"
...I am so not clicking this shit. My intelligence would probably drop.
Dark Orchid
Member
Why watch that video when you can watch his amazing advice videos where he says Giratina-O and Zygarde are the new 2016 meta.
Ideally Kanga will get nerfed, but even then there are other options to get around it.
You should look at the title for his other video on the subject. That and some quick things I read paint a pretty vivid story.
PreyingShark
Member
"Verlisify Goes FULL Trihard and DESTROYS Pokémon Cheating Filth"
I don't like hacked mons either but holy shit Verlisify calm the fuck dow-
"ITS NOT CLICKBAIT!"
...Oh so it's just clickbait. Good to know. ^_^
And then he apparently goes on to call the people who don't agree with him dumb and disgusting.
Sure there are other ways around Mega Kangaskhan Sandfox (and some interesting ones too, like bulky Serperior), but really my main point that I was trying to make is that removing a bunch of fun, interesting, and very unique Pokemon just to step around the IV system seems like a terrible compromise to me. I think its better to recognize that the current IV system is doing more harm than good to competitive play than to make even MORE concessions to make it stay alive imo!
Even ignoring things like IVs I think VGC would benefit from restricting legendaries.
Now VGC is a different story for me. I don't mind VGC implementing weird new rules like that. As far as I'm concerned, since VGC changes its ruleset so much, I don't mind if they have more exotic stuff like "Ubers are allowed (yes I dont mind that rule this year lol)", or Dark Void being banned, or even legendaries being banned! Heck, I've joked before that VGC should try Little Cup Doubles as their next metagame, yet I'd actually be totally game to play that!
However with the Battle Spot metagames, those are built to last a lot longer for lack of a better word. I think one of the funnest parts about competitive Pokemon is watching how much these metagames change as people are forced to deal with whatever gamefreak put out there.
To get back to the Mega Latias example, there was a time in early ORAS Battle Spot Singles were there were a TON of stall teams lurking around the ladder. To counteract this, a japnese player came up with what was at the time considered an utterly bizzare Mega Latias set: Mega Latias with Calm Mind / Psyshock / Roost / Substitute. Yeah, a Mega Latias walled by Hydreigon and unable to OHKO Garchomp, sounds lame right?
Well turns out, the guy who came up with that set actually WON Battle Spot Singles that season (or at least was in the top 3, my memory is failing me a bit). Why was it? Because as it turned out, a lot of stall teams weren't using Tyranitar at the time, letting Mega Latias storm through them! Now a days, a lot of stall teams carry Tyranitar to make sure Mega Latias doesn't sweep them. Latias stands at about.. I want to say #60 in usage as of last season (you can check out the usage stats here http://battlespotstats.com/?game=ORAS&season=15 ), so that's sorta low now a days, but its hard to deny that that spark of creativity led to some interesting changes that were entertaining to watch, and still affect the game today!
Now of course, banning legendaries in all the battle spot metagames wouldn't actually kill the fun process of metagame development, but as legendaries tend to have very unique typings, movepools, and stat spreads, it'd be a real shame to lose out on so many tools that could potentially come out of nowhere and shock the metagame because one smart person had a creative idea!
To kind of counter this, a lot of people do tend to lean on the legendaries to counter certain threats. Banning them would force people to get even more creative. Remember when some guy used a freaking Pachirisu? I'd like to see more of that to be honest. Show me something I think is useless actually be useful, that's creativity.
EDIT: Especially in a day when we have megas, there's even more options without turning to legendary pokemon to do the job.
To be fair, he is right in that the rules clearly state that you aren't meant to use hacked Pokémon, even "legal" hacks. I agree with him on that. I'm not going to go mental about it though, I just wish TPCi would make their mind up; either remove the rule or actually enforce it...especially now money is involved, they need to deal with hacking.
But, you all know my stance on hacking
We're already seeing less people.
Attendance at UK Nationals was down over 100 on last year.
Attendance at DE Nationals was down around 150 on last year.
US Regionals are also having some low turnouts.
This year's format has kind of put the growth of VGC backwards, which sucks.
Next year should be good though, I know many people who chose not to this year but intend to next year.
VGC14 was a very fun format. I had some great creations out of that. VGC15 even allowed for a lot of creativity, even at high level. CHALK was a pain, sure, but not unbeatable. It didn't control the meta like Primals do in VGC16
VGC17 is going to be great though, at least I hope so. All depends on the size of the Alola Pokédex, whether they have things like Kangaskhan in, and if they did nerf Parental Bond like was implied to be on the cards a couple of years back
But, you all know my stance on hacking
We're already seeing less people.
Attendance at UK Nationals was down over 100 on last year.
Attendance at DE Nationals was down around 150 on last year.
US Regionals are also having some low turnouts.
This year's format has kind of put the growth of VGC backwards, which sucks.
Next year should be good though, I know many people who chose not to this year but intend to next year.
VGC14 was a very fun format. I had some great creations out of that. VGC15 even allowed for a lot of creativity, even at high level. CHALK was a pain, sure, but not unbeatable. It didn't control the meta like Primals do in VGC16
VGC17 is going to be great though, at least I hope so. All depends on the size of the Alola Pokédex, whether they have things like Kangaskhan in, and if they did nerf Parental Bond like was implied to be on the cards a couple of years back
To be fair, he is right in that the rules clearly state that you aren't meant to use hacked Pokémon, even "legal" hacks. I agree with him on that. I'm not going to go mental about it though, I just wish TPCi would make their mind up; either remove the rule or actually enforce it...especially now money is involved, they need to deal with hacking.
But, you all know my stance on hacking
We're already seeing less people.
Attendance at UK Nationals was down over 100 on last year.
Attendance at DE Nationals was down around 150 on last year.
US Regionals are also having some low turnouts.
This year's format has kind of put the growth of VGC backwards, which sucks.
Next year should be good though, I know many people who chose not to this year but intend to next year.
VGC14 was a very fun format. I had some great creations out of that. VGC15 even allowed for a lot of creativity, even at high level. CHALK was a pain, sure, but not unbeatable. It didn't control the meta like Primals do in VGC16
The people handling the events are TGC people, which is where the real money is for TPC, and it shows.I also don't see how they could possibly catch people unless they make a mistake hacking. Next year there should be growth due to a new generation and the fact that the community seems to be taking steps forward.
I actually like this year's format more than last year's for the most part in terms of the metagame. Primals are everywhere, but I like the different cores people are using them in.
Yeah, I too don't know how they could deal with it. It does suck. There are bound to be ways though, their hack check just sucks and lets even obvious crap pass.
For example, in UK Nationals this year, a person accidentally made an error hacking their Kyogre. They gave it Water Sport instead of Water Spout. It got through the initial hack check that runs when your battle box is locked. Same with last year. There are hidden ways to check too; PIDs being different to the data for example, but it just lets things through still. They can do a better job with what they have, and there are numerous people with the expertise that can code a far more competent hack check into the system, they just don't get to do it :/
I do hope it does grow again next year, but I think the growth may just be taking it back to where it was in 2014/2015 from where it is now.
PreyingShark
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15 Japanese guys got boned out of their Worlds invites because they were caught cheating so I think they might finally be trying to do more.
Yeah, that's a positive sign
As I said, now that actual money is on the line, they need to do a better job of enforcing the rules they put in.
Dark Orchid
Member
If they really wanted to combat the hacking, I can guarantee they would catch a lot of people if they started checking the trash bytes in the names of the Pokemon. When I used to use Pokecheck daily (RIP) that was always the thing that would trip people up, so many people wouldn't edit those bytes from the original species of the Pokemon they replaced. Also, checking the trash bytes in the OT name, some weirdness surrounding the PID, and the met/hatched location data would do wonders in this new hack check. Some stuff would still get through, though. As long as the games aren't always online or an associate of Game Freak isn't hovering over the shoulders of everyone who buys a game, there is no way to 100% stop hacking.
There's also further simplifying the methods of getting competitive-level Pokemon, that helps too (outside of the legendaries with Hidden Power).
There's also further simplifying the methods of getting competitive-level Pokemon, that helps too (outside of the legendaries with Hidden Power).
Aveyn Knight
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I actually kind of like VGC 2016, but the hurdle is just way too high. I'm happy ORAS made it easier to get restricted legendaries, but Gen 7 really needs to make it easier to get good restricted legendaries (and events).
I mean, I was considering competing for fun, but I literally could not SR a decent Rayquaza in time. I don't think using my flawless Zygarde as a replacement would've been a good idea either : P
I mean, I was considering competing for fun, but I literally could not SR a decent Rayquaza in time. I don't think using my flawless Zygarde as a replacement would've been a good idea either : P
Lone_Prodigy
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Quote for a Mew code, NA only.
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Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
thanks
2016 International Challenge June
Region: International
Registration Period: June 16th 2016 - June 23rd 2016
Battle Period: June 24th 2016 - June 26th 2016
Battle Type: Double Battle
Battle Limits: 15 Battles per day
Pokémon Restrictions: National Pokédex.
Pokémon Limits: Teams may have no more than two of the following Pokémon: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde.
Banned Pokémon: Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion. Pokémon not captured or hatched in X, Y, Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
Entry Gift: 2000 PokéMiles
Region: International
Registration Period: June 16th 2016 - June 23rd 2016
Battle Period: June 24th 2016 - June 26th 2016
Battle Type: Double Battle
Battle Limits: 15 Battles per day
Pokémon Restrictions: National Pokédex.
Pokémon Limits: Teams may have no more than two of the following Pokémon: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde.
Banned Pokémon: Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion. Pokémon not captured or hatched in X, Y, Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire
Entry Gift: 2000 PokéMiles
PreyingShark
Member
I beat that annoying thing a few hours ago in Soul Silver actually
Enough said
It took a while because my Steelix loved Miltank it seemed. Stupid Attract.
https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/pokemon/present/4050
I have no clue how to navigate the global link website for the code, I just used the link that I found on another forum.
Andrefpvs
Member
Thank you so much!
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Yeah the Global Link website is so so bad.
Every time I visit it goes like this:
-Calendar
-News
-Rules
-News
-Registration
Every time I visit it goes like this:
-Calendar
-News
-Rules
-News
-Registration
I'm getting back into Pokemon after my semi hiatus.
I want to use my Shiny Impish Pseudo Perfect 4IV Giratina. Because it's Impish it would have to be Altered Forme. I'm not at home right now but the IVs were 31/31/31/x/31/x. Since it's doubles and smash things I just came up with this:
Impish @ Leftovers
Shadow Force STAB
Dragon Claw / Dragon Tail STAB
Stone Edge / Earthquake COVERAGE
Will-o-Wisp / Thunderwave SUPPORT
I really wanted to catch Adamant or the very least a physically geared mixed (shiny) Giratina for Origin Forme but the Arceus RNG gods graced me with that.
Edit: I just realized Dragon Tail could force switchins but is it worth the decreased damage?
I want to use my Shiny Impish Pseudo Perfect 4IV Giratina. Because it's Impish it would have to be Altered Forme. I'm not at home right now but the IVs were 31/31/31/x/31/x. Since it's doubles and smash things I just came up with this:
Impish @ Leftovers
Shadow Force STAB
Dragon Claw / Dragon Tail STAB
Stone Edge / Earthquake COVERAGE
Will-o-Wisp / Thunderwave SUPPORT
I really wanted to catch Adamant or the very least a physically geared mixed (shiny) Giratina for Origin Forme but the Arceus RNG gods graced me with that.
Edit: I just realized Dragon Tail could force switchins but is it worth the decreased damage?
Muku
Member
How about that shiny Mewtwo?
Really wish, and I know we're already getting a lot of things this year, it wasn't behind the competition wall. I don't find myself really enjoying that side of the game, so it's frustrating. And normally weekend plays are good, but my weekends are generally working. I guess that is what makes it more frustrating.
Really wish, and I know we're already getting a lot of things this year, it wasn't behind the competition wall. I don't find myself really enjoying that side of the game, so it's frustrating. And normally weekend plays are good, but my weekends are generally working. I guess that is what makes it more frustrating.
Got a NA code for Mew, apparently. First to PM me gets it.
What competition?
I usually only do em if they get me a pokemon I want. lol
How about that shiny Mewtwo?
Really wish, and I know we're already getting a lot of things this year, it wasn't behind the competition wall. I don't find myself really enjoying that side of the game, so it's frustrating. And normally weekend plays are good, but my weekends are generally working. I guess that is what makes it more frustrating.
What competition?
I usually only do em if they get me a pokemon I want. lol
Aveyn Knight
Member
panthapanda
Member
Hmm. Looks like it gets back HP as well.
entremet
Member
So XY link in Sun and Moon?
Muku
Member
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/a-special-mewtwo-for-play-pokemon-video-game-participants/
Aveyn Knight
Member
The other great thing to come out of the Taiwanese Nationals.
Hopefully the Hong Kong Nationals goes ahead...
Hopefully the Hong Kong Nationals goes ahead...
Can someone tell me what a Play! Pokémon event is?
Trying to navigate the global link site is driving me insane.
Also question: any cons to making mew an HM slave, since it can learn all Hms? Sadly I've yet to beat Omega Ruby but that's cause I'm having issues fitting some HM moves into my party. I'm using a lot of legendaries this go around for kicks and it's making me hesitant to teach them Hms.
Think I'm on the way to Seafloor Cavern and need to teach Dive to someone.
Trying to navigate the global link site is driving me insane.
Also question: any cons to making mew an HM slave, since it can learn all Hms? Sadly I've yet to beat Omega Ruby but that's cause I'm having issues fitting some HM moves into my party. I'm using a lot of legendaries this go around for kicks and it's making me hesitant to teach them Hms.
Think I'm on the way to Seafloor Cavern and need to teach Dive to someone.
Aveyn Knight
Member
Google "Pokemon Trainer Club".
Log in or make an account (I assume you have an account).
On the sidebar to the left, go to Profile Settings. Check that you've chosen to receive promotional e-mails near the bottom.
Next, go to Play! Pokemon Settings from the sidebar. Make sure you're opted in.
Muku
Member
Here's a question regarding the Play! stuff. More specifically in regards to the Shiny Mewtwo. I'm going to TRY to remember to at least register and play for it, but we'll see how that goes since it all takes place during my work week, ugh.
It says to register, and I assume that means on the website? Also, mentions needing one coin on your account to meet requirement for the email. If you forfeit or just sit through a losing game, will you get that one coin? I don't have any team set up right now and haven't really played in a while. Never enjoyed battles as I'm more of a co-op kind of person. ;_; It's why I enjoy other things in-game instead. But trying to figure this stuff out a little.
It says to register, and I assume that means on the website? Also, mentions needing one coin on your account to meet requirement for the email. If you forfeit or just sit through a losing game, will you get that one coin? I don't have any team set up right now and haven't really played in a while. Never enjoyed battles as I'm more of a co-op kind of person. ;_; It's why I enjoy other things in-game instead. But trying to figure this stuff out a little.
Just register for the Jube competition and forfeit 3 games. Thats it
Just make sure to register for Play coins on Pokemon.com before.
I just did all of this. What else do I need to do in order to get this cool shiny Mewtwo?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Do they give away promo Pokemon at Nationals? My brother is participating in the TCG Nationals in Columbus and I'm tagging along for the trip, so I was wondering if it was worth bringing my 3DS or not?
Wegot a shiny Machamp in Europe. Its very likely US gets the same distribution.