Wouldn't MMing even a 2IV Ditto with a 5IV Metagross give better odds, better results, and take less time than the process you have to go through in order to get and check an untradeable gift Pokemon?
Yeah, I was scared that that was it.
But you just have to win the contest once.
Again, I saved in the dressing room, cause I'm scared it'll be locked in the lobby. This only adds like 2/3 seconds, so it's not too bad.
I think that on paper both look good, add variety and that needed "spice" on what would be a stale formula. But then when you actually try to get perfect mons (even though they are much, much much easier nowadays, but it is still a pain to get good legendaries), the boring aspect shows up.
Guys to be honest, the metagame is depressing, until you are 200% all about it. It's very exclusive and cuts out and outright kills 80% of the rest of the game. Jus' have fun. Maybe there will be a casual competitive soon
For now casual-competitive is this: Correct nature, correct EV's, no one gives a shit about IV's. If your nature and your EV's are right, you can beat other players (and their perfect IV's) with better strategy. Don't even worry about IV's if you don't understand strategy. It takes much longer to learn the strategy behind the game than it does to breed, so why not see if you want to play like that before you go through the trouble of breeding/SR'ing
Everyone is trying to live up to top-tier smogon playing, and only 0.0001% of us are actually going to play like that.
I think that on paper both look good, add variety and that needed "spice" on what would be a stale formula. But then when you actually try to get perfect mons (even though they are much, much much easier nowadays, but it is still a pain to get good legendaries), the boring aspect shows up.
I'd be fine with Natures being kept as they are right now, fucking IVs drive me crazy because it's 5 stats you got to take into account rather than just 1. Gamefreak could do away with IVs for all I care, getting a good Nature is much easier. When I see people have to spend hours resetting just to get perfect IVs is when I remember why they are such a stupid addition.
I'd be fine with Natures being kept as they are right now, fucking IVs drive me crazy because it's 5 stats you got to take into account rather than just 1. Gamefreak could do away with IVs for all I care, getting a good Nature is much easier. When I see people have to spend hours resetting just to get perfect IVs is when I remember why they are such a stupid addition.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree that Natures should stay. IVs are a pain in the ass, but even though I hate them and even asked for their removal in the past, I'm more lenient with them.
People complain about Dark Souls being obtuse. It has nothing on everybody's favorite baby game!
Wouldn't MMing even a 2IV Ditto with a 5IV Metagross give better odds, better results, and take less time than the process you have to go through in order to get and check an untradeable gift Pokemon?
So, if I read you correctly, you want a 0.1% increase in odds to roll a single 31 after 50 eggs?
Or is your idea to get a guaranteed 31 after 1500 eggs?
The second idea seems a bit more appealing, but that's still a whole lot. Beside that, you would need 800 eggs just to go from a 3% chances of a 31 to a mere 6%...
Fair enough. I guess I just hate SRing and what you're doing feels like SR+++ (Start brand new save, redeem gift, play up to the first Pokemon Center, get the Beldum and box it, save, quit, launch Pokebank, wait an eternity for it connect, deposit the Beldum, wait an eternity for to disconnect, wait an eternity to connect again for XY, disconnect, quit, launch XY, check IVs, repeat...).
It kinda sucks that even with a respawned Kyogre the SR iteration time is still about two minutes because of the pre-battle animation. I got one I'm willing to settle for though:
So, if I read you correctly, you want a 0.1% increase in odds to roll a single 31 after 50 eggs?
Or is your idea to get a guaranteed 31 after 1500 eggs?
The second idea seems a bit more appealing, but that's still a whole lot. Beside that, you would need 800 eggs just to go from a 3% chances of a 31 to a mere 6%...
It took me a lot of boxes with a 6IV ditto and a 5IV parent to get a 6IV pokemon. I lost count after 10k, but even after that I still don't have a full box of 6IV Torchics.
I was thinking more like 1500-3000 eggs for a perfect one. It would still require effort, but at least it would be guaranteed to be perfect.
It took me a lot of boxes with a 6IV ditto and a 5IV parent to get a 6IV pokemon with the nature that I wanted. I lost count after 10k, but even after that I still don't have a full box of 6IV Torchics.
I was thinking more like 1500-3000 eggs for a perfect one. It would still require effort, but at least it would be guaranteed to be perfect.
It took me a lot of boxes with a 6IV ditto and a 5IV parent to get a 6IV pokemon with the nature that I wanted. I lost count after 10k, but even after that I still don't have a full box of 6IV Torchics.
I was thinking 5 ivs for some reason lol. You have a 1 in 200 chances of getting a perfect Pokemon so that would take a while. Very few pokemon need 6 ivs and most people don't need a box full so I think the current system is decent enough. They'll probably make it even easier next gen though.
I've bred boxes of 5IV perfect competitive Pokemon and I don't think I've hatched 10K eggs TOTAL. Then again, there was a period of time I did the Battle Institute Check/SR trick, but once I got a 6IV Ditto, I got lazy and preferred to mindlessly hatch a bunch of eggs while watching TV.
I was thinking more like 1500-3000 eggs for a perfect one. It would still require effort, but at least it would be guaranteed to be perfect.
It took me a lot of boxes with a 6IV ditto and a 5IV parent to get a 6IV pokemon with the nature that I wanted. I lost count after 10k, but even after that I still don't have a full box of 6IV Torchics.
I was thinking 5 ivs for some reason lol. You have a 1 in 200 chances of getting a perfect Pokemon so that would take a while. Very few pokemon need 6 ivs and most people don't need a box full so I think the current system is decent enough. They'll probably make it even easier next gen though.
With a 6IV Ditto and a 5IV parent, the chance of getting a 6IV mon is, let's see...
First there's a 5/12 chance of the bad IV being picked, so 7/12 babies will inherit 5 perfect IVs. Then there's the 1/32 chance of getting that last one from there. So 7/384 chance of getting a perfect, or just a bit under 1/50 odds.
With a 6IV Ditto and a 5IV parent, the chance of getting a 6IV mon is, let's see...
First there's a 5/12 chance of the bad IV being picked, so 7/12 babies will inherit 5 perfect IVs. Then there's the 1/32 chance of getting that last one from there. So 7/384 chance of getting a perfect, or just a bit under 1/50 odds.
I know. I'm not saying that it took 10k to get one with 6IVs, no, what I've said is that with around that number of eggs I still had less than a full box of 6IVs.
If anyone needs evo stones but doesn't want to bother with balloons, let me know in here or in a PM, I can send you whatever stone you want as I now have way to many.
Guys to be honest, the metagame is depressing, until you are 200% all about it. It's very exclusive and cuts out and outright kills 80% of the rest of the game. Jus' have fun. Maybe there will be a casual competitive soon
For now casual-competitive is this: Correct nature, correct EV's, no one gives a shit about IV's. If your nature and your EV's are right, you can beat other players (and their perfect IV's) with better strategy. Don't even worry about IV's if you don't understand strategy. It takes much longer to learn the strategy behind the game than it does to breed, so why not see if you want to play like that before you go through the trouble of breeding/SR'ing
Everyone is trying to live up to top-tier smogon playing, and only 0.0001% of us are actually going to play like that.
With the way gamefreak operates, I strongly suspect that was the case. Shoddy game design to have to reset 50+ times just to get a nature for the starting pokemon that isn't counter-productive.
There are quite literally so many better ways to implement that feature into the game but leave it to gamefreak to choose one of the worst.
I was depressed that I couldn't catch a Seviper in OR, so I switched over to Y and bred a perfect one in like 20 mins.
Breeding for IVs is easy now, but still difficult enough to make it rewarding. If they got rid of IVs, I'd have a perfect Pokemon after hatching one egg (breed *insert species here* with a Ditto of the desired nature - done). That's lame.
I can understand the pain of soft resetters but... just don't do it?
VGC is still pretty top heavy, and its going to even worse with ORAS now that the big hitters like the genies and Cress are back in addition to some of the new stuff.
VGC is still pretty top heavy, and its going to even worse with ORAS now that the big hitters like the genies and Cress are back in addition to some of the new stuff.
