Stop dreaming so big. It's getting my hopes up. That won't ever happen
Guys. I thought I was being too obvious with the "4 months" thing.
The important question - what is Dick Morris's next excuse going to be?
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Guys. I thought I was being too obvious with the "4 months" thing.
Haha I thought I made a mistake for a second.
What do I win?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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A handjob from Harry Reid!
Well, Obama is only just at 50%. So Romeny only has to swing a handful of Obama supporters
and win 100% of undecideds
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Now I'd vote against him for creating news feed spam.Brock just posted.
lol
Game changer.
Sounds about right.
In fairness, they did radically change America. Of course, they changed it so that America could take its place among the civilized nations without the Europeans snickering at us behind their teacups (or beer steins, or croque monsieurs, whatever), but even so.
http://iom.edu/Reports/2012/Best-Ca...inuously-Learning-Health-Care-in-America.aspx
Number one reason Americans overpay is because they receive services that aren't helpful -- because our healthcare system is on a fee-for-service model instead of an evidence-based payment model.
talisayNon
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2008 was a referendum that people had enough and wanted them to enact change. instead obama squandered his super majority congress on trying to get the republicans to play nice. listen dems, this is america saying we support your redistribution policies. don't fuck this up jackasses. again.
The Technomancer
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Obama passed Credit Card reform and Healthcare reform. I consider that pretty damn good for two years. Could have been better if they hadn't capitulated in some areas, but hardly a disaster.
You should be directing this at Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, and Blanche Lincoln. Though the good news is: in a few months all three of them will be out of the Senate.
speculawyer
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Yeah, I think this is a big problem. And it is a combo of a few things:
-Nuts that just go to the doctor all the time
-Unnecessary tests done because of paranoia about lawsuits
-Unnecessary tests/meds done because of kick-backs
-Unnecessary things done because they know insurance will pay for it.
He never had a super-majority in Congress. There was never a democratic super-majority in the House, only a majority. There was a super-majority in the Senate though for about 6 months, not all of which was workable because Teddy Kennedy was terminally ill for part of that and didn't cast votes. I think he did pretty well with that time frame.
It takes a while for the money to trickle down to TV adds.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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You sound like a person wanting "tort reform" lol
Shorthand: Having wholly private care that requires insurance creates a giant matrix of middle men skimming cream off the top. The result is that it's mostly cream, artificially generated to feed the middle men and enabled by our politicians.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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You against job creation?
You against free markets?
Nice of the Obama campaign to dish out some bonuses for a job well done...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...bonuses-to-top-staff/?wprss=rss_election-2012
oh wait, that's for Romney's team. :lol
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...bonuses-to-top-staff/?wprss=rss_election-2012
oh wait, that's for Romney's team. :lol
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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You against sarcasm?
Running out of money for ads and spending money on bonuses. lol
Romney campaign bankrupt, Bain Capital makes $100 million profit
Well, if you're not going to turn the company around, might as well liquidate what you can.
A better solution would be to simply have the government back up all malpractice claims. So instead of doctors run a whole crap load of tests so they dont get sued, lose their insurance and then get into financial trouble, the government simply covers the cost of malpractice suits for the defendant.
That way if the suit is genuine, the plaintiff will get the proper amount needed while the doctor doesnt go bankrupt and get fired (obviouly if the doctor has too many malpractice suits against him he should be fired)
Because we are using a system that is tied into employment, and when the unemployed get sick, everyone pays for it. Not to mention the unabashed deregulation and for-profit motives of the healthcare industry which has had marginal attempts to curb that in recent years.
As long as health insurance is run by the for-profit sector -- this includes big pharma -- and as long as only a limited number of people can pay into the system, we will have expensive health insurance.
It has nothing to do with how much the government is spending. If anything, the government isn't involved enough in healthcare.
Warren. Brown was really defensive and then he did some personal attacks on Warren.
RustyNails
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They need a majority in supreme court as well. Passing a lefty legislation only to have it taken to supreme court and struck down 5-4 with a soul crushing gaze ftom muppet clarence thomas means squat.
bu-bu-bu-bu private sector innovation!!!!!!!
I'm worried Ginsburg may leave before too long. She's getting up there. I just hope a democrat is in office when she does.
Black Mamba
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Roberts is economically liberal!
I think she might retire if Obama wins and Dems keep the senate. No way she leaves with a republican in office.
Nah, Roberts just forgot to take his meds over the summer and he wasn't capable of thinking straight.
Wonderful!!!!
Now go convince someone who stubbed their toe that they do not need an MRI right away!
Or, even better, try to convince family of a demented 89 year old grandma that they should not torture her with chemotherapy because "she's a fighter".
You may also want to convince at least half the men over 50 not to get PSA tests.
http://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/prostatecancerscreening.htm
Tort reform is probably part of the answer, but it's not the key issue. It should be pretty clear that if you have a system where doctors get paid for providing services regardless of their efficacy, you'll end up with a lot of overworked doctors and a lot of unnecessary tests, procedures, and do-nothing visits. It's equally obvious that if your system costs you money whenever you visit the doctor regardless of whether they actually help you, you're going to avoid going to the doctor until you absolutely have to -- meaning little preventative care and lots of emergency care, the most expensive form of care. And, of course, if you make money when people pay you for insurance and lose it when people actually get treatment, you'll be motivated to make it as difficult and expensive as possible for people to actually get treatment when they need it, which will just exacerbate the above two issues. This is really just applied economics.
The number one thing we need is a fundamental change in the healthcare provision model. Luckily, the PPACA provides that.
You're just babbling now. But I hope you're finding it entertaining!
Black Mamba
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I wasn't joking, his record shows him economically liberal, even before he joined SCOTUS.
Red Blaster
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Bil Clinton on tonite's Daily Show, gonna be sick
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