Not sure why she didn't say she will be there to combat GOP obstruction of Obama.
Obama is gonna win MA in a landslide. Brown winning there would be ridiculous
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Not sure why she didn't say she will be there to combat GOP obstruction of Obama.
Obama is gonna win MA in a landslide. Brown winning there would be ridiculous
Romney SuperPAC running out of money, down to $6 million cash on hand
Starting to think this whole "Romney $500 million in SuperPAC money" stuff was a mirage.
Starting to think this whole "Romney $500 million in SuperPAC money" stuff was a mirage.
She also mentioned the funds Brown raised on the premise that the GOP needs to hold this seat to have a chance at getting the majority. That argument has teeth, and evokes an image of Brown gladhandling all kinds of nebulous rightwing interests that should scare the average Independent voter in Mass. behind closed doors.
NullPointer
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Thanks for the link.
Huh, guess its over then?
Huh, guess its over then?
Polling has shown that by a wide margin in MA, people want Dems to be in control of the Senate. So it definately helps Warren to frame the race as being one that tip control one way or the other.
I'm not able to watch, but going from your post I'm just speculating that's what she tried to do.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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It's Massachusetts are you really surprised a douchebag is their Senator?
will be funny if citizen united backfires
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Or if it wasn't a backfire or the boogeyman people made it out to be.
Absolutely. Remind the voters of Massachusetts that a vote for Brown is a vote for our backwards/redneck senators down here in the south to run the committees and the whole chamber. Remind them that a GOP-controlled Senate will fight Obama's every move.
Given that Obama will win the state by nearly two-to-one, I would imagine that these could be effective points of attack.
I was talking to my East Coast friend about this. Apparently Massachusetts will support any candidate as long as they look and act like an Irish relative. Loud slightly drunk guys, stern worried women only.
This is funny, considering that Burnett leans right.
Byakuya769
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What has Romney been doing with that money? Is there a secret army of Romney-Bot 3000s somewhere?
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Pretty much that or someone who is or fucked a Kennedy.
Black Mamba
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Manos: The Hans of Fate
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So when the Democrats realize all the money they got in this race...all the overturn CU stuff is going to die a quiet death, right? The whole Koch boggeyman buying the election never happened.
Byakuya769
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I hope not. The perversion that comes along with it will still be there, regardless if Dems win.
platypotamus
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I sincerely hope not
What's wrong with wanting to overturn cu? Winning the election doesn't mean they shouldn't fight it.
He's so likeable.
NullPointer
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This exactly. The influence on money in politics is a poison that degrades the entire process. Throwing more money at it isn't helping matters, regardless of whether your chosen candidate wins.
Manos just has a hard time realizing that not everyone is a cartoon villain like the Republicans and some people actually are interested in overturning CU on the simple basis that it perverts the democratic process and sees corporations as deserving of more rights than some of the minorities of this country.
There are obviously some Democrats that don't feel strongly enough that CU should be overturned, but he's always doing these juvenile arguments that essentially try to project the Repub viewpoint onto everyone in the country. It's fairly similar to political arguments I remember having in middle school.
So I started reading up about the Kaine debate, as I didn't understand what was supposed to be so disastrous about "being open" to ensuring some kind of floor on taxes (note: I don't think it's the best policy response and implicitly cedes too much ground, but it's hard to look at "I'm open" as an expression and see anything other than reasonableness).
I was expecting to see republicans say something like "See, even Kaine recognizes this moocher thing is an issue, why can't Obama?"
Instead the response was "He wants to raise your taxes"
So.
When people don't pay income tax, it creates an entitled, dependent moocher class.
Therefore, any effort to increase their taxes will break the economy. Suggesting it means you are unfit for office.
I know republicans aren't supposed to make sense, but seriously?
I was expecting to see republicans say something like "See, even Kaine recognizes this moocher thing is an issue, why can't Obama?"
Instead the response was "He wants to raise your taxes"
So.
When people don't pay income tax, it creates an entitled, dependent moocher class.
Therefore, any effort to increase their taxes will break the economy. Suggesting it means you are unfit for office.
I know republicans aren't supposed to make sense, but seriously?
If by likable you mean like the jerk from high school then yes, yes he is.
googleplex
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I didn't get to see all of the debate, did Warren kick Brown's ass like i hoped?
Buddha Beam
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When you whiplash from position to position the way Romney does, you wind up needing a lot of replacement parts. And those ain't cheap.
Probably depends on who watched it.
So? Rmoney's recent implosion has only expanded Obama's advantage. Obama was already winning prior to Romney's recent hiccups. He's been ensconced as the moderate favorite for a while. The fundamentals are not going to magically change in six weeks. There's nothing to fear.
Republicans have been belaboring this point for years. The lack of an answer is revelatory.
PhoenixDark
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Warren comes off like a third grade teacher, and she can be shrill. It remains to be seen whether she's just getting a temporary bump or whether dems are finally coming home in MA. I thought she clearly won the debate, and you could tell Brown was agitated and very nervous.
If Warren wins she'll probably be in the senate as long as she wants.
If Warren wins she'll probably be in the senate as long as she wants.
Joe Shlabotnik
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What's wrong with the jerk from high school? Maybe he just wanted some love from his parents.
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I never said those are related. This just colors my perception of the person but ultimately whether I like or dislike someone does not influence my guesses of how they will behave or my assessment of whether they are good for me, bad for me or neutral.
I like Scott Brown but that doesn't change the fact that his office is a mess and he is losing many independent votes because perception is that his office is difficult to reach.
I did not like the late Edward Kennedy but his office ran like an incredible well oiled machine.
That's what Obama was talking, I am not sure the Democratic Party will stop at that if they have overwhelming majority. Plenty of their constituents in this thread desire far more radical changes.
You will not be able to reduce healthcare costs in any meaningful way without nasty austerity measures which will get everyone involved voted out of office. Feel free to start another thread about it and we can argue about it if you want.
They really don't. Democrats, the party and the voters, have been moving further and further right (on most issues) for decades.
I'd honestly give you the advice of reading a lot about Democrats from FDR up until LBJ, and then look at what Obama and congressional Democrats are doing and saying and you'll see you have zero to worry about.
PhoenixDark
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I say it's a minor bump and voters will realize they don't want an extremist representing them.
(I support Warren, I just don't think voters will)
Can you feel the winds of change in your bones?
So this is going to propel her to victory! Had to run that through my PD translation program but you heard it here first folks!
Just imagine if the Democratic Party had the white house, 60 seats in the senate, and 257 seats in the house.
It'd probably take them less than 4 months to permanently and radically change america.
That makes zero sense.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Should I bust out the Harry Potter .gif?
That's just a small percentage. The rest is going to the cayman islands.
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And Obama's at 50% in all three. This is becoming more and more common.
BuggyDClown
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ohkaaay, so why is healthcare in the US so expensive? Name 3 top reasons.
Getting Dems to agree on anything is like trying to herd cats, we can hope but I doubt it.
Stop dreaming so big. It's getting my hopes up. That won't ever happen
I think he's making a point about the time the Dems did have that...
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