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Dunno but he's definitely down a touchdown in the fourth quarter.
I don't know, they just enlisted John Elway to try and help lead them down the field.
Dunno but he's definitely down a touchdown in the fourth quarter.
Actually, that's exactly how someone who tried to exploit being "Native American" despite specious roots deserves to be ridiculed.
Odd, because those specious roots put her at the same amount (1/32) of Cherokee heritage as principle chief of the Cherokee nation, Bill John Baker.
The accusation that she used this to get ahead seem to be far more specious.
Warren has claimed Cherokee and Delaware Indian heritage, but the only proof so far seems to be stories she says she heard from family members as a child. Cherokee groups have demanded documentation of the candidate’s Native American ancestry, but she hasn’t delivered.
The New England Historic Genealogical Society found a family newsletter that alluded to a marriage-license application supposedly listing Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as part Cherokee.
The Boston Globe misreported this information, saying that the genealogical society had found the marriage license itself and debunked the notion that Warren lied about her lineage. The paper later acknowledged its mistake in a correction notice.
The author of the family newsletter said she didn’t have documentation of the marriage-license application and she doesn’t know who sent her the reference.
(Indian Country Today Media Network has posted the family newsletter on its Web site).
The New England genealogical society clarified in a statement that it has found no proof of Warren’s self-proclaimed Native American lineage. The group also told The Globe that the candidate’s family is not listed in an early-20th century census of major tribes, known as the Dawes Rolls.
An article in Atlantic magazine pointed out that Warren “would not be eligible to become a member of any of the three federally recognized Cherokee tribes based on the evidence so far surfaced by independent genealogists about her ancestry.” That’s because her Cherokee ancestors, if she has any, would either be too distant or they never documented their ties in ways that meet the tribes’ requirements.
Obviously, this doesn’t preclude Warren from having traces of Native American heritage.
Warren contributed recipes to a Native American cookbook called “Pow Wow Chow,” published in 1984 by the Five Civilized Tribes Museum in Muskogee, Okla. She signed her entries “Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee.
The Boston Herald reported in April that Warren had listed herself as a minority in the American Association of Law Schools directory and that Harvard Law School had touted her supposed lineage when the program faced doubts about faculty diversity.
The Democratic candidate stumbled early on in reacting to this controversy. At one point, Warren cited remarks that her aunt Bea made about high cheekbones in the family as evidence of her indigenous ancestry. She said she listed herself as a minority in the professional listings merely to connect with “people like me,” noting that it was “not a particularly good use for the directory, because it never happened.”
You guys are being very diffusional. Warren is barely ahead in one of the most liberal states in the country. She is arguably the most hated political figure on Wall Street; they may not like Obama but at least they know he's on their side policy wise. She comes off as an elitist professor from the northeast. She struggles on the stump and doing the nitty gritty of campaigning, much like Romney and every other northeastern politician outside of the Kennedys. She's not a good politician, as tonight's debate showed.
Colorado is not a solid blue state, neither is Virginia. A solid republican candidate would certainly compete there, especially VA.
Your basic argument is that demographics mean democrats can win regardless of who they run. That is not true. Warren is seen as elitist even in MA
Same thing happened to Giuliani. Expect the same articles to be dropped about Chris Christie when he crashes and burns in the 2016 primaries.
My understanding was that Joe Biden permanently annihilated Giuliani's dreams of becoming president.
Wow, David Brooks is an asshole. "Early voting is an abomination because the debates haven't happened." Then he admits the debates don't matter.
Ahh.. good to see Shields saying this. Seems like it rhymes with my "he comes-off as a sleazeball" theory. It'll be fun to see how people compare him with Obama when they're finally in the same space together in two nights.
My understanding was that Joe Biden permanently annihilated Giuliani's dreams of becoming president.
That, and Giuliani moronically bet all his hopes on Florida, a state he got a measly third in anyway.
I don't know, they just enlisted John Elway to try and help lead them down the field.
Wow, David Brooks is an asshole. "Early voting is an abomination because the debates haven't happened." Then he admits the debates don't matter.
It's not a major thing and I certainly don't think it's apt to characterize Brown's campaign as, in any substantial way, "racist". It was a pretty big asshole move to incorporate identity to begin with, especially absent Warren in any way incorporating her own background in that way. But I think the reaction was enough to contain it, and it doesn't really deserve further consideration on either side IMHO.
It was this line.I have to ask how did he do it? I figured it was betting it all on Florida that did it.
It was this line.
Mitt is the candidate equivalent of Bush's Privatize Social Security program . . . after getting reelected, he toured around in 2005 trying to sell that program. The more people learned about it, the more they hated it.And the theory is that Mitt Romney is the first presidential candidate in -- certainly in the last 35 years who wherever he campaigns does worse. And I think that's his real problem.
Oh god, HE was the one that came up with that? I knew Biden was a boss.
Should Mitt Romney be Worried about that John Elway Endorsement?The joke would have worked better with Steve Young.
(And I don't even know much about sports.)
Dammit, I love Joe Biden.It was this line.
I have not seen cartoon solider or diablos chime in yet, guess the oh god Obama is going to lose narrative will come later tonight
That's the thing with zingers . . . . sometimes you don't know how they'll fly. Sometimes they are big like that one. Other times they are "They are trying to put you back in chains!"
Agree.Can't believe Nate wasted an article on this: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...ie/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Fortunately, such an outcome remains quite unlikely. Of the 25,001 simulations that we ran on Monday... tie came up... 0.6 percent of the time.
And why was ToxicAdam banned?
I'd average those two and say O+6, which is still slightly lower than TPM's average (+6.5).cartoon_soldier said:And that I don't think OH is O+8, O+4 is more realistic.
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Damn.. Letterman's putting the wood to Romney tonight about him not visiting the show. And then he showed the "I like to fire people who provide services to me" clip.
Ow.
(bonus: Colbert is the first guest tonight)
One of the top comments from that article was quite genius.
The last line has me fairly convinced it was a joke comment (and a pretty good one). But the sad thing is, there is still a chance it's real
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Oh god, people are talking about Warren for President? Please no. I want democrats to actually win. She'd be another Michael Dukakis or John Kerry.
Can't we just accept John F. Kennedy cursed the state of Massachusetts when it comes to Presidential candidates?
And why was ToxicAdam banned?
The Brown campaign floated a trial balloon that Warren, who answered some sort of college self-identification survey as being part-native, was somehow abusing the system or lying about her ethnic identity or that she wasn't brown enough to do so. There's been some blow-back that it's really not cool to tell people what their identity is.
Some mid-level staffers made some native jokes subsequent to this issue.
It's not a major thing and I certainly don't think it's apt to characterize Brown's campaign as, in any substantial way, "racist". It was a pretty big asshole move to incorporate identity to begin with, especially absent Warren in any way incorporating her own background in that way. But I think the reaction was enough to contain it, and it doesn't really deserve further consideration on either side IMHO.
Wow, David Brooks is an asshole.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/blakezeff/why-its-impossible-to-win-a-debate
As the article notes, shit like Bush checking his watch, nobody cared about when it happened. But the media made the whole debate about that one moment.
Silver disagreesPolls are certainly tightening which should trouble Obama fans but Romney is still quite behind...
At least you're admitting Romney's in a hole though. Baby steps!Nate Silver said:The 9 national polls published today showed Obama +3.5 on average. However, prior edition of same polls showed Obama +3.7. Most of this isn't complicated. Just a matter of looking at all polls instead of cherry-picking 3 on a day when there are 20.
I think it's hard for the media to spin live events on the age of twitter. I think the twitter reaction will dictate the coverage more than anything
I think it's hard for the media to spin live events on the age of twitter. I think the twitter reaction will dictate the coverage more than anything
Meh. Twitter will be largely pro-Obama because Grandma and GrandPa don't Twitter.
Damn.. Letterman's putting the wood to Romney tonight about him not visiting the show. And then he showed the "I like to fire people who provide services to me" clip.
Ow.
(bonus: Colbert is the first guest tonight)
This is a very smart observation, but if you're right, it's just going to be yet another structural advantage for the Democrats, party of people who understand social media.
wapo said:Its difficult for him to understand why people would think of him not understanding their daily travails because of his enormous wealth, said Douglas Gross, who chaired Romneys 2008 campaign in Iowa but is not involved with his campaign now. Romney perceives that hes lived his own life in a way thats not extravagant, [and so] he doesnt understand why people wouldnt think he understands their pain.
Gross recalls confronting Romney directly on this gulf in their first meeting. I asked him, Youre an incredibly successful guy and can you relate to average folks in the cafes of Iowa? and he found that question insulting and refused to answer it. To me, thats the microcosm of the problem.
Actually, that's exactly how someone who tried to exploit being "Native American" despite specious roots deserves to be ridiculed.
Just a little anecdote about Romney's widely admired ability to connect with the workaday voter:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7f9a80-0895-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_print.html
Backpats to TNR for the link.
Which is why, When I'm President I will repeal Obamacare and deny that same level of access to healthcare for the rest of the nation!Later that day, asked in an NBC interview how he can better connect with Americans, Romney offered an accomplishment, rather than a declaration of his feelings the universal health-care law that he signed as governor of Massachusetts.
One hundred percent of the kids in our state had health insurance, he said of the law that was the model for Obamas Affordable Care Act which Romney has vowed to repeal.
I dont think theres anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record.