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[RDreamer]

Holy crap. Didn't realize it was that big. I would cut funding to it, too. But then again, i am for the government really only having their fingers in necessary pies.

Seriously? Now's not the time to cut good, helpful programs that give people decent jobs.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Obama has material, but the problem is he had material before the first debate and failed to do anything with it so i don't expect much better.

It's not easy to do anything with material when its effectiveness is predicated on the assumption that his challenger won't walk back literally everything he's said over the past 18 months in the span of 90 minutes

 

[Byakuya769]

I read an article in the Wash Post about that this morning. I'll find it.

Edit:
Here it is. In short, it doesn't really exist.

Huh? The amount of revenue towards the government isn't the issue, the incentive its allowance gives is.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Even the democrats at work thought Romney was great last night, and don't even want to talk about Obama's performance. And the main takeaway was indeed Big Bird; someone printed one of those Save Big Bird ads and passed it around to patients. This is a very liberal area of Michigan and I got the impression that everyone thought Obama shat the bed.

Once again, Obama could have easily retorted on Sesame Street last night. Now if he does it in the next debate it'll feel rehearsed

 

[Aaron Strife]

Even the democrats at work thought Romney was great last night, and don't even want to talk about Obama's performance. And the main takeaway was indeed Big Bird; someone printed one of those Save Big Bird ads and passed it around to patients. This is a very liberal area of Michigan and I got the impression that everyone thought Obama shat the bed.

Once again, Obama could have easily retorted on Sesame Street last night. Now if he does it in the next debate it'll feel rehearsed

Yeah he's probably gonna lose michigan now

 

[titiklabingapat]

Holy crap. Didn't realize it was that big. I would cut funding to it, too. But then again, i am for the government really only having their fingers in necessary pies.

Alot of poor people can't afford basic cable so all they have is PBS to leave their kid drones in front of the telly. I don't condone television parenting but if it's gonna happen, I'd rather them be watching PBS kid's shows than some trashy day time talk shows with perpetual paternal DNA testing topics. Not to mention the performance arts, documentaries and science shows during prime time.

 

[Dominican Power]

 

[East Lake]

It's not easy to do anything with material when its effectiveness is predicated on the assumption that his challenger won't walk back literally everything he's said over the past 18 months in the span of 90 minutes

There's probably plenty of snappy remarks you could use to show the watchers how Mitt was acting like a used car salesman. I just don't think it should be surprising for him. The right as a whole has become more and more bold running against a completely fictional socialist Obama and he shouldn't be surprised Mitt will do anything to be president. Call it like it is, Clinton called it a alternative universe. Whatever works, he should've prepared for this.

 

[PhoenixDark]

yup, this is the one that was spread around at work

 

[eBay Huckster]

There's probably plenty of snappy remarks you could use to show the watchers how Mitt was acting like a used car salesman. I just don't think it should be surprising for him. The right as a whole has become more and more bold running against a completely fictional socialist Obama and he shouldn't be surprised Mitt will do anything to be president. Call it like it is, Clinton called it a alternative universe. Whatever works, he should've prepared for this.

Prepare for this... by actually becoming fictional socialist Obama!

They'll never expect it!

 

[fenners]

Alot of poor people can't afford basic cable so all they have is PBS to leave their kid drones in front of the telly. I don't condone television parenting but if it's gonna happen, I'd rather them be watching PBS kid's shows than some trashy day time talk shows with perpetual paternal DNA testing topics. Not to mention the performance arts, documentaries and science shows during prime time.

The money mostly doesn't go to "PBS" per se. It's mostly funding local stations, filling in their budget shortfalls etc, around the country.

This is a year old, but still solid:

http://www.quora.com/What-portion-of-PBS-funding-comes-from-the-federal-government

PBS is funded indirectly by Congress through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB; which funds both PBS and National Public Radio). For fiscal year 2010, $281m out of CPB's $422m appropriation went to public television, $210m to local stations and $71m to PBS directly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pub...). In 2010, PBS had revenues of around $570m (http://www.pbs.org/about/media/a...), meaning federal funding via CPB accounted for about 12% of PBS 2010 annual revenues. Note that some of that federal funding for local stations will also make it back indirectly to PBS in the form of programming fees, so the total percentage could be considered higher.

It's not like PBS the TV station gets a big cheque directly from the government.

 

[Kusagari]

I somehow doubt the main takeaway of the night being "Big Bird" could possibly be to Romney's benefit.

Nobody remembers anything he actually proposed beyond wanting to fire a fictional character.

 

[kaching]

And, etch-a-sketching your way through a debate is better than what I saw last night from Obama. At least when Bush took shots from Kerry, he hit right back. He didn't miss major opportunities like the $716 billion medicare cut kerfuffle, and Romney lying his ass off about his tax policies.

It's not as if Romney's performance was good. It was mediocre at best. Bush or Kerry would have kicked his ass.

Romney's strategy is ripped straight from Kosmo's and PD's playbooks, and PoliGAF has certainly proven time and again how effective it is to fight them on their own turf...

 

[eBay Huckster]

The money mostly doesn't go to "PBS" per se. It's mostly funding local stations, filling in their budget shortfalls etc, around the country.

This is a year old, but still solid:

http://www.quora.com/What-portion-of-PBS-funding-comes-from-the-federal-government



It's not like PBS the TV station gets a big cheque directly from the government.

Yeah, it's more like "the CPB distributes some of its appropriations to its 354 PBS member stations"

 

[Stinkles]

You've been waiting 5 years for post-everything polls

I enjoy the subtle message in this arithmetic.

 

[RustyNails]

Some of these are really terrible, as in just unfunny, but a couple are real gems. This one cracks me up for some reason

LOL

avatar time

 

[Half and half]

Speaking of rounding errors and I'm sure I'm not the first to ask, but how much does pbs get from the government?

Enough to justify Romney's increased defense spending I'm sure.

 

[reilo]

...

I can't wait until next week when we get post-debate polls

You read the same article, so why are you still bullshitting?

In several other cases, however, the instant-reaction polls did not correlate with the change in head-to-head polls. Before Wednesday night, the second-clearest margin of victory for a challenging candidate in the CNN poll came in 2008, when Mr. Obama was declared the winner of the third presidential debate by a 27-point margin. However, his opponent John McCain actually gained slightly in the polls instead just after that debate.

EVERYBODY PANIC

Over all, the relationship between the winner of the instant-reaction poll and the change in head-to-head polls is positive, although not statistically significant.

You don't say!

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...-and-more-on-debate-instant-polls/#more-35530

Pay attention.

 

[Kai Dracon]

Enough to justify Romney's increased defense spending I'm sure.

Gotta gear up to protect us from radical domestic avian insurgents of unusual size.

 

[eBay Huckster]

reilo is bill clinton, PD is paul ryan

 

[speculawyer]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/sasha-obama-asks-father-why-he-was-acting-like-suc,29795/

Sasha Obama Asks Father Why He Was Acting Like Such A Pussy During Debate

I cackled like a witch at that one.

Always a bit dodgy to bring the kids in but this one is OK, I guess.

 

[Byakuya769]

So that word can still be used?

Not being a smartass, but I'm honestly starting to get confused about which words are ok and which are ban-worthy offenses.

 

[RustyNails]

Hey guys, Wolf Blitzer is actually doing his job on TV right now.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Hey guys, Wolf Blitzer is actually doing his job on TV right now.

But which campaign's surrogate is he allowing to walk all over him?

 

[gkryhewy]

But which campaign's surrogate is he allowing to walk all over him?

Romney's, of course -- but only until they cut away to a Romney/Ryan rally (shown in inset).

 

[Officerrob]

 

[PhoenixDark]

So that word can still be used?

Not being a smartass, but I'm honestly starting to get confused about which words are ok and which are ban-worthy offenses.

Best way to be safe: never use any slang terms for women or woman parts. I don't even say "boobs" on GAF anymore.

Follow my advice and you'll never be banned

 

[Byakuya769]

Best way to be safe: never use any slang terms for women or woman parts. I don't even say "boobs" on GAF anymore.

Follow my advice and you'll never be banned

This is good advice.

 

[RDreamer]

Best way to be safe: never use any slang terms for women or woman parts. I don't even say "boobs" on GAF anymore.

Follow my advice and you'll never be banned

Aren't you the record holder for number of bans around here?

 

[Loudninja]

LOL

avatar time

ohh would you mind making me one out of this one?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42860637&postcount=18850

 

[Trakdown]

So if PBS is funded through the CPB, does that mean Mitt advocated the government shutting down a corporation?

Spoiler

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Also, I can't believe how much attention the Big Bird line is getting. Even weirder that this isn't the first time the conservatives have hated on the muppets.

 

[bananas]

Follow my advice and you'll never be banned

can't stop won't stop

(used to get banned a lot, then I stopped posting about video games)

.

 

[RDreamer]

What might be interesting is that now apparently the money flow is going to keep going to Romney instead of being thrown at down-ticket races. Obama still has this on lockdown, so a good performance in that debate by Romney might actually help the dems overall.

 

[Oblivion]

Hey guys, Wolf Blitzer is actually doing his job on TV right now.

Balderdash.

 

[Aylinato]

I took this image which I did not make, but love

and made two avatars with

You may want to rehost or save as my PB is free account

 

[B-Dubs]

Hey guys, Wolf Blitzer is actually doing his job on TV right now.

Yea right, when pigs fly.

 

[Paches]

Also, I can't believe how much attention the Big Bird line is getting. Even weirder that this isn't the first time the conservatives have hated on the muppets.

It is something easy for people to latch on to. More so than something like Simpson Bowles or what have you.

 

[NullPointer]

This is good advice.

I never understood the point of insulting people by calling them body parts you happen to really like.

So for future reference, if I call you a pussy its a compliment.

 

[Loudninja]

I take that big bird one please

Thanks Aylinato.

 

[RustyNails]

ohh would you mind making me one out of this one?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42860637&postcount=18850

Best I could do!

 

[worldrunover]

"The jerk store called; they're running out of you."

Pretty much. I'm expecting Obama to bring a big bowl of shrimp with him to the next debate.

 

[Loudninja]

pic

Best I could do!

Thanks I might keep switching avatars out.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Last night summed up.

 

[Blackheim]

Best I could do!

Made one without the text:

Edit: Black border + brightened a tad:

 

[RustyNails]

Yea right, when pigs fly.

Well, he didn't press him bad, but made it clear as he was letting the surrogate off the hook that Romney does not have a clear tax plan, very vague about details, and wants to unveil his tax plan after he gets elected. I'm sitting in airport lobby and CNN is playing.

 

[Loudninja]

So is MSNBC still acting like immature brats?

 

[Pre]

Romney delivered an excellent performance. There were moments where I wanted him to go into more of a full-throated defense of conservatism, but he had to moderate himself a bit and I think it worked well. I think he delivered exactly the right message when it comes to taxes -- conservatives aren't interested in tax rates and such in an abstract sense; They want to find the best combination of revenue and rates to encourage investment and job growth. Lowering taxes isn't about rubbing the backs of the rich -- it's about putting money back in the economy and therefore increasing revenue. Jacking up rates on stuff like capital gains only encourages investors to shelter their money.

 

[Byakuya769]

Play nice, guys.

 

[worldrunover]

Romney delivered an excellent performance. There were moments where I wanted him to go into more of a full-throated defense of conservatism, but he had to moderate himself a bit and I think it worked well. I think he delivered exactly the right message when it comes to taxes -- conservatives aren't interested in tax rates and such in an abstract sense; They want to find the best combination of revenue and rates to encourage investment and job growth. Lowering taxes isn't about rubbing the backs of the rich -- it's about putting money back in the economy and therefore increasing revenue. Jacking up rates on stuff like capital gains only encourages investors to shelter their money.

Who is his tax plan benefiting? The middle class? How can he lower taxes on the middle class while keeping it revenue neutral? There aren't enough loopholes that exclusively affect rich people to do that. I'm asking this seriously.

Also, there has been no evidence that people will stash their money away if capital gains goes back up to 20%. None whatsoever.

 

[Black Mamba]

Romney delivered an excellent performance. There were moments where I wanted him to go into more of a full-throated defense of conservatism, but he had to moderate himself a bit and I think it worked well. I think he delivered exactly the right message when it comes to taxes -- conservatives aren't interested in tax rates and such in an abstract sense; They want to find the best combination of revenue and rates to encourage investment and job growth. Lowering taxes isn't about rubbing the backs of the rich -- it's about putting money back in the economy and therefore increasing revenue. Jacking up rates on stuff like capital gains only encourages investors to shelter their money.

All historical evidence points to the exact opposite. Lowering rates encourages hoarding of cash with less risk.

This whole "pt money back into the economy" does not work unless it's strictly middle class incomes and lower class incomes we're talking about.

And growing the deficit even more puts negative pressure on the currency. This is not good policy.


If you're going to have claims like "jacking up rates on stuff like capital gains only encourages investors to shelter their money" you need to back it up, cuz I got examples of the exact opposite happening.