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PoliGAF 2015 |OT| Keep Calm and Diablos On

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kingkitty

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most of the remaining cases are some big hitters.

gay marriage
obamacare
lethal injection
arizona redistricting
fair housing act

gonna be interesting.
 
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BertramCooper

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I wonder if this Horne v. USDA case could invite a new challenge to ag checkoff programs. Checkoffs are marketing dollars that farmers are required to pay when receiving payment for their crops. "Beef: It's what's for dinner" and "Got Milk?" are examples of checkoff-funded marketing efforts. USDA administers it and farmers have no ability to opt out.

That would be a first amendment case and not a fifth amendment case, like Horne, but it could show a willingness for the Roberts court to challenge USDA's use of government mandates on farmers.
 
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benjipwns

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/06/22/ben-carson-south-carolina-shooting-column/29074387/
Not everything is about race in this country. But when it is about race, then it just is. So when a guy who has been depicted wearing a jacket featuring an apartheid-era Rhodesian flag allegedly walks into a historic black church and guns down nine African-American worshipers at a Bible study meeting, common sense leads one to believe his motivations are based in racism. When the sole adult survivor of the ordeal reports that the killer shouted before opening fire, "You rape our women and you're taking over our country. And you have to go" — well, that sounds to me a lot like racial hatred.

Let's call this sickness what it is, so we can get on with the healing. If this were a medical disease, and all the doctors recognized the symptoms but refused to make the diagnosis for fear of offending the patient, we could call it madness. But there are people who are claiming that they can lead this country who dare not call this tragedy an act of racism, a hate crime, for fear of offending a particular segment of the electorate.
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http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/obamas-race-war-has-real-consequences/
Yet how can we ignore the climate of violence that is sharpening conflicts instead of soothing them? How can we ignore a simple truth: Barack Obama and Eric Holder created much of this atmosphere of anger, bitterness and bile with their disdain of whites and not too transparent belief and actions that we must now pay what are in effect reparations to the black community, even though this generation does not practice or advocate slavery. Obama, Holder and their enablers, like Al Sharpton, have become what they accused President George W. Bush of being: a recruiting tool for terrorists thanks to his invasion of Iraq. Obama and company’s biased actions against whites, Christians and Jews have ironically served to draw neo-Nazis and sick Klansman out of their caves and have emboldened them to try to justify criminal acts – people like Dylann Roof. Indeed, Roof was quoted as saying that he struck because blacks had “taken over the country.”

To fundamentally transform America, Obama, Holder and their fellow travelers have been implementing Saul Alinsky’s and Frank Marshall Davis’ teachings. They have been inciting one group against another group, race against race and class against class.

President Abraham Lincoln warned that “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” He was specifically talking about race, a nation half slave and half free. Historically, outside conquerors have ruled over large countries by keeping groups fighting against each other and throwing salt in the wounds of local grievances. To tear down traditional America, socialists and progressives must tear at old wounds.

But this is not a faculty lounge exercise. Obama’s race war, implemented in large part by the likes of Eric Holder, has real-world consequences. Real people get hurt and trampled as collateral damage in the progressive enterprise.
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BertramCooper

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I wonder when we're finally going to see the 2016 prognosticators switch the Ohio Senate race to "toss up" from "leans R."

Because it's pretty fucking obvious at this point that Portman is in big trouble.
 
Metaphoreus

Metaphoreus

This is semantics, and nothing more
Ed Whelan at National Review is going to have conniptions over Kagan's opinion in Kimble. That's the case where Marvel succeeded in weaseling out of paying royalties to the inventor of their Web Blaster toy:

Justice Kagan said:
In 1990, petitioner Stephen Kimble obtained a patent on a toy that allows children (and young-at-heart adults) to role-play as “a spider person” by shooting webs—really, pressurized foam string—“from the palm of [the] hand.”

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The parties set no end date for royalties, apparently contemplating that they would continue for as long as kids want to imitate Spider-Man (by doing whatever a spider can).

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Patents endow their holders with certain superpowers, but only for a limited time.

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As against this superpowered form of stare decisis, we would need a superspecial justification to warrant reversing Brulotte.

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What we can decide, we can undecide. But stare decisis teaches that we should exercise that authority sparingly. Cf. S. Lee and S. Ditko, Amazing Fantasy No. 15: “Spider-Man,” p. 13 (1962) (“n this world, with great power there must also come—great responsibility”).
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ivysaur12

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Grexeno said:
Hopefully this is true, because I don't see them doing a special decision day for a decision that sustains the status quo.
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We pretty much already know how Obergefell is going to be decided.

FyreWulff said:
Also puts it as close to the anniversary of Stonewall as they can manage.

Also, googling "stonewall" triggers google giving you a rainbow of paper people at the top of the screen. TIL
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So will anything gay related during pride month.

Metaphoreus said:
Ed Whelan at National Review is going to have conniptions over Kagan's opinion in Kimble. That's the case where Marvel succeeded in weaseling out of paying royalties to the inventor of their Web Blaster toy:
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Bless her for this. Truly.

OR MAYBE WE'RE ALL WRONG

SCOTUSblog ‏@SCOTUSblog
Odds are that SCOTUS will decide Obamacare this Friday and same-sex marriage next Monday.
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PhoenixDark

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Wilsongt said:
Fox absolutely losing their shit over Obama saying a racial slur.

I am not surprised, honestly.
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Doesn't it prove him right? His comment was quite clear. A headline that says "Obama says the n word" misses the fucking point, and borders on blatant disinformation. Well in Fox's case it is disinformation of course.

It goes back to the concept of trivializing racism: the idea that Obama saying "nigger" is somehow more damaging or dangerous than actual racism - regardless of the context of his use of the word being clear. As if every use of the word is equal, meaning Obama saying it (in a broader context) is no different from a rapper saying nigga or someone on the street using the word in a negative/threatening fashion. It's truly lowest common denominator sucker shit.
 
Metaphoreus

Metaphoreus

This is semantics, and nothing more
Politico: AP photo shows a gun pointed at Ted Cruz's head:

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Coriolanus

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Metaphoreus said:
Politico: AP photo shows a gun pointed at Ted Cruz's head:
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“Presidential candidate Ted Cruz,” Paul Colford, vice president & director of media relations, said, “was shown in a series of 14 photos taken by an Associated Press photographer at a ‘Celebrate the 2nd Amendment’ event Saturday afternoon, held at a shooting range in Johnston, Iowa. Five of the photos published by AP included images of guns seen on a wall in the background so that it appeared a pistol was pointed at Sen. Cruz’s head.

“The images were not intended to portray Sen. Cruz in a negative light,” Colford said.
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Dude has a golden opportunity of closing with "he does enough of that by himself" and doesn't take it. bah.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Obamacare on a Friday is bizarre to me and totally confusing. I'm scared it'll lose :(
 
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Retromelon

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Reading the reactions to the south carolina shooting of various 2016 candidates left a bad taste in my mouth. It seems there is a pretty broad consensus on the spineless "the people should decide whether the flag stays up, i believe in the people" answer. Ted cruz, as always, goes above and beyond by saying, "I think often this issue (confederate flag) is used as a wedge to try to divide people." Oh, ted, what would make you think that the confederate flag is a divisive topic?

Ted cruz is the garlean emperor
 
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B-Dubs

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Ignatz Mouse said:
Honestly makes me think that it will.

Friday is when you announce news that you want to get underplayed.
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I feel like if they wanted to kill the subsidies they'd wait until the final day and throw it out then, so they could leave town right after and not have to deal with the fallout. Adding a special day feels like they want this decision to have a news cycle all to itself so it doesn't cannibalize the decisions from Thursday.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Ignatz Mouse said:
Honestly makes me think that it will.

Friday is when you announce news that you want to get underplayed.
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Except this is a colossal decision and I don't think the Supreme Court would want to underplay it. They all realize the ramifications.

B-Dubs said:
I feel like if they wanted to kill the subsidies they'd wait until the final day and throw it out then, so they could leave town right after and not have to deal with the fallout. Adding a special day feels like they want this decision to have a news cycle all to itself so it doesn't cannibalize the decisions from Thursday.
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Perhaps. Maybe this will be the "Well, this was obvious" decision while the gay marriage one will need the bigger news cycle.
 
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Lucky Forward

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NYCmetsfan said:
Gov. Hogan (MD-R) has cancer (Stage 3 or 4). Sucks for him but he's having a pretty classy press conference. Wish him the best.
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I just heard the news myself on local radio. You have to admire how positive he is.

Hogan announces he's been diagnosed with cancer

Gov. Larry Hogan said Monday he's been diagnosed with a "very advanced and very aggressive" cancer.

The governor said he learned of the illness last week after returning from a trade mission to Asia. He said the cancer had spread to multiple parts of his body, but he expected to fight and beat the disease.

"It's one that responds very aggressively to chemotherapy treatment," Hogan said. "There's a strong chance of success."
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He said he planned to continue to work as governor while undergoing treatment.

"Most likely I'm going to lose my hair," he said. "I may trim down a little bit. I won't stop working to change Maryland for the better. I'll be working hard. ... I'm going to miss a few meetings. But I'm still going to be constantly involved."
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thepotatoman

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Wilsongt said:
Fox absolutely losing their shit over Obama saying a racial slur.

I am not surprised, honestly.
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Wow, you're not kidding.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/22/president-obama-uses-n-word-while-discussing-racism.html
President Obama seems to loathe chatting with professional journalists but he relishes at the chance to banter with fringe gadflies -- like the YouTube lady who bathes in breakfast cereal.

And then there's the guy who runs the "WTF" podcast -- an acronym for a word I am not allowed to write on this website.

President Obama agreed to a podcast interview with comedian Marc Maron -- a podcast host known for his crude language. But who knew the leader of the free world would be more crude than the host?

President Obama caused jaws to drop across the fruited plain when he uttered the N-word during the interview which was published on Monday. He mentioned the incredibly offensive racial epithet during a conversation over race in the aftermath of the church massacre in Charleston, South Carolina.

"Racism, we are not cured of it," Obama said. "And it's not just a matter of it not being polite to say n***** in public. That's not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It's not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don't, overnight, completely erase everything that happened 200 to 300 years prior."

If he talks like that in public -- I can only imagine what he says in private.

It does not appear that the president’s remarks were off-the-cuff. Based on my interpretation of the podcast, he was cool, calm and measured in his use of the n-word.

It was disappointing to say the least to hear such a vulgarity come out of the mouth of the leader of the free world.

But there you have it folks – this is man who was supposed to usher in the post-racial America. This is the man who was supposed to unite, not divide.

What President Obama said is indefensible. It soils the dignity of the Oval Office.

For goodness sake. He's the president of the United States, not a hip-hop artist.
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I can't tell what they're really thinking here.

Is it just a typical partisan petty attack on vulgarity similar to Obama's use of "bullshit" in the 2012 Rolling Stone article, written with knowledge that Boehner should get the similar flak for vulgarity from the other side?

Is it a complete misunderstanding of why the n-word is generally not ok to use, and them really having trouble reconciling the fact that if any of their politicians use the word they'd probably be completely done, while Obama can say it and nobody cares?

Is it them being really antsy about not being able to complain about white people not being able to say something black people can casually say, and are using this as an excuse to start that discussion again?

Is it them thinking they finally found proof Obama actually is black, and imagining Obama as someone that drops the white act when he gets home, using "nigga" left and right just like all those hip hop stars they hate?
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The RNC released a statement confirming that they back Gov. Haley on removing the confederate flag from the capital.

I'm kind of surprised, actually.
 
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Mike M

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Sounding like the momentum for the flag's removal is building. Kind of surprised that it looks like it might actually happen.
 
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thepotatoman

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Mike M said:
Sounding like the momentum for the flag's removal is building. Kind of surprised that it looks like it might actually happen.
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Might, but there's still a lot of resistance from the SC general assembly. It's just hard to tell because none of them are brave enough to defend that stance on TV.
 
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thepotatoman

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ivysaur12 said:
Based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without any sort of sited source in its article (or extrapolation in the article):
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Friday trash day, into a Monday apology would be exactly how a PR firm would handle subsidies going away and gay marriage being legalized.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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thepotatoman said:
Wow, you're not kidding.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/22/president-obama-uses-n-word-while-discussing-racism.html


I can't tell what they're really thinking here.

Is it just a typical partisan petty attack on vulgarity similar to Obama's use of "bullshit" in the 2012 Rolling Stone article, written with knowledge that Boehner should get the similar flak for vulgarity from the other side?

Is it a complete misunderstanding of why the n-word is generally not ok to use, and them really having trouble reconciling the fact that if any of their politicians use the word they'd probably be completely done, while Obama can say it and nobody cares?

Is it them being really antsy about not being able to complain about white people not being able to say something black people can casually say, and are using this as an excuse to start that discussion again?

Is it them thinking they finally found proof Obama actually is black, and imagining Obama as someone that drops the white act when he gets home, using "nigga" left and right just like all those hip hop stars they hate?
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It's an attempt to "score points." It's meaningless.

The author probably knows full well why it's use in this context is fine, but he's fanning the usual ire over the fact that it's taboo for white people and not for black people-- then alluding to the fact that it's often used by hip hop artists, whom the target audience finds vulgar.

In one shot, the author is trying to a) slam a double standard, b) compare the President to vulgarians, and c) claim it's divisive. It's all over the place and incoherent, but it's got enough random notes that there's something for every shade of bigot or Obama critic.
 
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KingK

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thepotatoman said:
Friday trash day, into a Monday apology would be exactly how a PR firm would handle subsidies going away and gay marriage being legalized.
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Yah that's my thinking as well. I'm getting really scared that their actually going to strike down the subsidies. Looks like I'm about to be uninsured.
 
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Fenderputty

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So where do we go if it gets blown up? Repubs aren't going to rush to help solidify Obama's legacy and we've got no plan in the works.

I realize they'll try and message the dismantling of the ACA as an Obama failure, even though they're dismantling it. So what play does that leave the dems with?
 
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ivysaur12

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/23/u...sual-displays-of-emotion.html?smid=tw-nytimes

President Obama, whose cool, no-drama style has for years set him apart from the extroverted politicians so common in Washington, has been getting emotional lately. It has happened at the White House and on Capitol Hill as he makes the case for parts of his legacy that are at risk, like his health care law and trade agenda, or when he speaks about slain hostages, civilians killed by drones and racially motivated shootings.

Longtime colleagues say they are witnessing a more human side of the commander in chief than they have seen before.

“My takeaway was, ‘Wow — where’s this guy been?’  ” said Kent Conrad, a former Democratic senator from North Dakota, describing his reaction as he watched Mr. Obama’s eulogy this month for Joseph Robinette Biden III, known as Beau.

“I turned to my wife and said, ‘My God, if he’d shown those kinds of feelings, and that kind of connection to others, I think he would have had a different experience as president,’  ” Mr. Conrad said. “If he could let himself show that, he would do much better with the American people, and much better with Congress.”
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But even Mr. Obama has admitted that he has been blindsided recently by fits of sadness, many of them prompted by the thought of his daughters — 14-year-old Sasha, who graduated this month from middle school, and 16-year-old Malia, who will go to college next year — growing up.

“I start tearing up in the middle of the day and I can’t explain it,” Mr. Obama told attendees at an Easter prayer breakfast in April. “Why am I so sad? They’re leaving me.”

He wiped away tears in February as he bade farewell to Eric H. Holder Jr., a confidant who served for six years as his attorney general. In April, he heaved a freighted sigh as he spoke of his grief “as a husband and as a father” about the deaths of Warren Weinstein and Giovanni Lo Porto, American and Italian hostages accidentally killed in a drone strike that he had ordered to take out leaders of Al Qaeda in Pakistan.
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People close to the president say he is often unfairly tagged as apathetic simply because he does not carry on publicly about his feelings. But some also suggest that in the penultimate year of his presidency, Mr. Obama may feel more free to express himself.

“There’s a level of comfort that comes with having been in the role for that length of time, and he’s past his political life, as far as elections go,” said David Axelrod, a former senior adviser to Mr. Obama who has known him for 23 years. “That may give him a greater sense of comfort in revealing feelings and being emotive.”
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