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PoliGAF 2016 |OT13| For Queen and Country

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Trump has no idea what the Hillary email scandal is about and has never articulated what it is about to any of his supporters and yet 84% of his supporters want Hillary to be imprisoned for the emails.
 

Amir0x

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LOL CNN just had a reporter that said Trump's local state people feel the same way

How could you not? Imagine you are a trump supporter. You told ppl all those stories over the year were exaggerated or just showmanship. Then all this happens.

Demoralization isnt strong enough for how you'd feel.
 

Boke1879

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LOL CNN just had a reporter that said Trump's local state people feel the same way

Not shocking. Those people are probably seeing what is happening in real time. Not to mention all of the stuff coming out and Trump definitely not helping himself being easily distracted.
 

rjinaz

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I love how these interviews with Trump surrogates on CNN have evolved into basically 'are you a horrible person for supporting Trump at this point? Yes or no.'
 

Slayven

Member
How could you not? Imagine you are a trump supporter. You told ppl all those stories over the year were exaggerated or just showmanship. Then all this happens.

Demoralization isnt strong enough for how you'd feel.

Not shocking. Those people are probably seeing what is happening in real time. Not to mention all of the stuff coming out and Trump definitely not helping himself being easily distracted.

Can you imagine the shit that happens behind the scenes? Liquor stores must be empty around Trump local offices
 

Boke1879

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/u...slide-trumps-polling-hasnt-collapsed-yet.html

This is why dropping new oppo right now is perfectly fine IMO.

And yea, it sucks that Hillary is off the trail till the debate. Not sure why the campaign keeps doing that.

The debate is next Wednesday. She's been visible this week. Michelle just gave one hell of a speech and the President has been campaigning as well. She doesn't have to do shit this weekend other than prep. Maybe she can moonwalk somewhere on Monday or Tuesday, but the debate is Wednesday.

Again The woman who just came forward to today is trending on twitter, She had a press conference and will probably do more interviews. More women are probably coming forward. Trump is already losing. Again barring some meltdown at the debate she'll probably win it.

There's 3 weeks left until the election. Why dump everything now when the tape from last week as only sparked more fires?
 

rjinaz

Member
This Trumper on CNN is really something else.

Her argument seems to be that these women are lying because nobody just magically remembers these things happened years after. I'm surprised she didn't throw out an audible DURRRRR She was close.
 

shiba5

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This Trumper on CNN is really something else.

Her argument seems to be that these women are lying because nobody just magically remembers these things happened years after. I'm surprised she didn't throw out an audible DURRRRR She was close.

THEY NEVER FORGET THEM! o_O
 
Media bandwidth is saturated right now. There's Trump Foundation stuff that is being ignored because of it. Dropping any new oppo right now would be an enormous waste of future opportunity.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/u...slide-trumps-polling-hasnt-collapsed-yet.html

This is why dropping new oppo right now is perfectly fine IMO.

And yea, it sucks that Hillary is off the trail till the debate. Not sure why the campaign keeps doing that.

Your political instincts are off again, bruh.

If it's true that they have two more big bombs to drop, as has been rumored, it makes more sense to drop them a) before major events soon enough to affect them, but not so soon that Trump has time to prepare a response, and b) when there's not already a lot of bad Trump stories in the media.

In other words, the Monday night or Tuesday morning before the third debate, when these accusers' stories will probably start to fade in coverage a bit, and the Friday or so before the election.

With all respect, were you running the campaign for Hillary, you would have just shot your wad back in June or some shit and left no bullets in the chamber because you're scared of your own shadow, to mix a bunch of metaphors.

And no, she doesn't need to be front and center right now because a) unlike Trump, she actually has popular surrogates to be out front for her! Also b) Trump and his dipshit brigade of human detritus are all over the news saying dumb shit right now, so why take attention away from that?
 

Protein

Banned
Test run of list of Trump's scandals/statements/policies. It's not finished yet.This is a very rough draft. Input is welcome.


On Black Americans

Refused to grant apartments to Black Americans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

Stated he doesn’t like Black accountants handling his money; prefers Jewish men.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/07/20/1550251/-Trump-laziness-is-a-trait-in-blacks-I-believe-that

Cited a white supremacist image highlighting ‘black crime’ sourced from the ‘Crime Statistics Bureau – San Francisco. The ‘Crime Statistics Bureau’ does not exist. The numbers were disproven by actual FBI statistics.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

Believes the ‘Central Park 5’ (four black and one Hispanic teenagers wrongfully convicted of raping a woman in New York) are guilty, despite DNA testing proving their innocence and the actual rapist later confessing to the crime.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/reality-check-donald-trump-central-park-5/

Wants to reinstate back 'stop-and-frisk', an unconstitutional, failed law that disproportionately targeting more Hispanic and Black citizens.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-stop-and-frisk-228486
https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/assets/files/CCR_Stop_and_Frisk_Fact_Sheet_0.pdf

Stated, “what the hell do you got to lose?” referencing black and Hispanic supporters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...and-hispanic-voters-what-do-you-have-to-lose/

Misleadingly puts Black youth unemployment rate at 59%.
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...misleadingly-puts-black-youth-unemployment-r/

Misleading suggested Black Americans are 45% in poverty.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ets-a-basic-fact-wrong-about-black-americans/

Claimed Black citizens will vote for him immediately after professional basketball player Dwyane Wade's cousin was killed in shooting.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-dwyane-wade-227467




On women

Recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women with no consequence due to his celebrity status.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html

Two women accusing Trump of sexual assault
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html

Allegedly sexually assaulted a People magazine reporter.
http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/

Allegedly put hands under woman’s skirt and groped her
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/14/politics/donald-trump-women-accuser/

"I'm going to be dating her [young child] in 10 years."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-un...-old-i-am-going-to-be-dating-her-in-10-years/

Suggested that women ‘should expect to be sexually assaulted’ when mixed with males in the military.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/us/politics/donald-trump-sexual-assault-military-women.html

Former Miss Arizona stated Trump strolled into changing rooms of naked contestants
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ling-right-in-on-naked-contestants/?tid=sm_fb

Referred to former Miss Universe Alicia Machado as ‘disgusting’, encouraging Twitter followers to search for her sex tape.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-latest-attack-against-former-miss-universe/

Feud with Rosie O’Donnell.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/politics/donald-trump-rosie-odonnell-feud/

Made sexual remarks about his own daughter Ivanka Trump.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-wont-stop-joking-about-banging-his-daughter/

Claimed it was okay for daughter to be referred to as ‘a piece of ass’.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/trump-on-howard-stern/

Crude comments about wife and disparaged women with small breasts.
http://www.insideedition.com/headli...his-crude-comments-about-his-wife-other-women

Criticized Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly suggesting she was on her menstrual cycle.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/politics/donald-trump-cnn-megyn-kelly-comment/

Claimed Hillary Clinton’s bathroom break during debate was ‘disgusting’.
http://time.com/4158303/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-disgusting-schlonged/

Stated pregnancy is an ‘inconvenience' to employers.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-2004-pregnancy-inconvenience-employers-n580366

Believes women should face punishment for abortions.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...rump-abortion-punishment-ban-illegal-pro-life




On Hispanic and Latino Americans

Wants to create a border wall that Mexico will finance
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rump-plans-build-wall-along-us-mexico-border/

Referred to majority of Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists and criminals’.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._dealers_and_rapists_are_crossing_border.html

Referred to former Miss Universe Alicia Machado as “Miss Housekeeping”.
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-...ald-trump-miss-housekeeping-miss-piggy-2016-9

Accused an American-born federal judge of being unfit to do his job because of his Mexican heritage.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/politics/donald-trump-tapper-lead/

Tweeted picture of himself eating taco bowl and stating, “I love Hispanics”.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...ald-trump-cinco-de-mayo-taco-hispanics-222860







On Muslim Americans

Supports a complete ban of Muslim and Muslim-American citizens from the US.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

Wants to implement database system to track Muslims throughout the US.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...d-certainly-implement-muslim-database-n466716

Wants to conduct surveillance on particular mosques.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/21/politics/trump-muslims-surveillance/index.html

Strongly considers shutting down mosques throughout the US.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/donald-trump-paris-attacks-close-mosques/


Lied about seeing “thousands and thousands” of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ew-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/










On Obama

Founded ‘birther movement’ that claimed Barack Obama was not born in the US.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-donald-trumps-claim-hillary-clinton-/

Stated that President Barack Obama founded ISIS terrorist organization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

Heavily implied that President Barack Obama was connected to the Orlando nightclub shooting.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...was-involved-with-orlando-shooting/?tid=sm_tw



On election

Claims election will be rigged if he loses.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trumps-baseless-claims-about-election-being/

Indirectly encouraged his supporters to assassinate his political opponent.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-second-amendment/

Encouraged a foreign nation (Russia) to hack his political opponent
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-putin-no-relationship-226282

Suggested that he would jail political opponent.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...onents-isn-t-normal-and-needs-to-be-condemned

Claimed he could shoot someone in public and his support would increase.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/

Lied about getting a letter from the NFL complaining about the debate schedule.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/trump-misfires-on-debate-claim/

Complained that Clinton had more speaking time at debate, despite having more speaking time than her.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/10/13223742/trump-clinton-debate-time

Incited and encouraged violence against protestors against him, and pay for their legal fees.
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004269364/trump-and-violence.html

Vowed to open up federal libel law in order to make suing and silencing journalists easier.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ng-the-media-easier-heres-how-he-could-do-it/






On the disabled

Mocked a reporter with disabilities.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/1...ks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn





On veterans

Attacked the parents of a fallen Muslim-American soldier.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-family-controversy/

Attacked Republican senator and veteran John McCain stating, “he’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317

Accepted ‘Purple Heart’ medal gift from veteran. Claimed, “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-purple-heart-226565

Lied about raising 6 million dollars for veterans. http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/20/politics/trump-veterans-6-million-not-raised/

To father of fallen soldier: “I've Made a Lot of Sacrifices”.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-father-fallen-soldier-ive-made-lot/story?id=41015051




On foreign policy

No experience in foreign policy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ign-policy-experience-than-virtually-anybody/

Strategy includes taking another country’s resources with, “take the oil.”
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trumps-plan-for-the-middle-east-take-the-oil-1786358749

Wants US military to conduct impossible “sneak attack” on ISIS.
http://www.vox.com/world/2016/10/11/13226824/trump-debate-isis-mosul-iraq

During a foreign policy briefing, Donald Trump allegedly asked 3 times "if we have nuclear weapons why can't we use them?"
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html

Supports torture despite neuroscience and psychology proving it ineffective.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/trump-torture/
http://www.newsweek.com/neurosciencetorture-doesnt-work-and-heres-why-79365

Suggests that US should target families of suspected terrorists regardless if considered a war crime.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/

Claims to have never supported Iraq War despite supporting the Iraq War.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rump-repeats-wrong-claim-he-opposed-iraq-war/



On Economic policy

No experience in economic policy.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-plan-1-trillion/

Wants to give more tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans than George W. Bush.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...n-right-trump-tax-plan-gives-more-rich-bush-/



On his business


Refuses to release tax returns citing IRS audit, despite IRS greenlighting him for release.
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/16/donald-trump-tax-returns-495955.html

Bragged about not paying taxes; calls it ‘smart business’.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/trump-brags-about-not-paying-taxes-that-makes-me-smart.html

Declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 tax returns —that would allow him to avoid paying federal taxes for 18 years.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ps-defense-of-not-paying-taxes-is-remarkable/

String of product and company failures.
http://gawker.com/a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters-1764151188

‘Trump’ brand name sinking in popularity due to infamy and controversies.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...tel-shows-as-poll-sink-so-does-his-brand.html

Trump’s companies have declared bankruptcies four times
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...nald-trumps-companies-have-declared-bankrupt/


Claimed $1-million-dollar loan from his father was a ‘small loan’.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/donald-trump-small-loan-town-hall/

Illegally conducted business with Cuba.
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/donald-trump-cuban-embargo-castro-violated-florida-504059.html

Uses charity money to settle his legal disputes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...c88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html

Used charity money to purchase portrait of himself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...65db82-7a8f-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html

Used charity money to purchase Tim Tebow-autographed helmet
http://fortune.com/2016/07/01/trump-tebow-helmet/






On Crime

Stated 'Crime is rising’, despite crime being steadily on the decline.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-said-crime-rising-its-not-and-hasnt-b/

Calls Afghanistan safer than America's inner cities

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-afghanistan-inner-cities-228057






On environment

Says climate change is a ‘Chinese hoax’, despite overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change exists.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...nald-trump-did-call-climate-change-chinese-h/
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Supports “clean” coal.
http://www.livescience.com/56474-clean-coal-presidential-debates.html
 

rjinaz

Member
Get this, Trump has put forward a witness from the plane flight from the 70s.

He just happens to be a human trafficker, but I'm sure he's honest.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/14/trump-camp-puts-forward-witness-to-refute-sex-assault-claim/

Oh and the pimping stuff is according to him, not something that's been proven.

My brain can't process this new evidence.

If this happened in 1981, he would have been 19, a teenager. And right at the time he claims he was selling boys for sex.

Are we supposed to take this guy seriously?
 
Indeed, Gilberthorpe claimed, Leeds was “trying too hard” in her attempt to win Trump over.

“She wanted to marry him,” Gilberthorpe said of Leeds, who apparently made the confession when Trump excused himself and went to the bathroom.

There was no kissing, but the “shrill” Leeds was “very much in your face” with the real estate developer.

Gilberthorpe made headlines in 2014, when he went public with a claim that as a 17-year-old he procured boys (some who “could have been” underage”) for sex parties with high-ranking British politicians
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jesus the trump campaign is fucking terrible.
 

shiba5

Member
Protein, you're going to need a Silkwood shower after handling all that garbage. Thanks for that yuge list of things even one of which would have destroyed any normal candidate.
 

TS-08

Member
Someone made a good point that the witness actually puts Trump on the plane with her, corroborating that part of the story.
 
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