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PoliGAF 2016 |OT13| For Queen and Country

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Bowdz

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Nah it's coming.

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Man, I don't know. Maybe a couple of points. A large part of the population seem willing to vote for literally anyone with an (R) next to their name. Party over country, Democrats are literally Satan, and all that. We've already seen defenses like "they're making it all up", "he was egged into it so it's not his fault", "Trump found Jesus (lol) so he's forgiven", and who can forget the classic "Bill Clinton is a rapist!" so we should have no problem voting for another one, I guess???
In any case, if there is solid oppo, they better droppo it soon if it's going to have any effect. Pls give house.

I'm convinced 35% of this country would vote for Manson if he had and (R) by the name and I think Hillary has got this regardless. Turnout seems to have a larger affect on downticket than being tied to Trump as well. Combined with closeness to Nov 8th and yeah I largely believe any future OPPO would have negligible affects on the race overall.
Trump dropped 7 points after the hot mic tape and plummteted even farther after the second debate. There is no such thing as a floor.

Also, Cesare is Cybit's alt and they're both trolls, the oppo is whitey tape and it doesn't exist, otherwise Clinton would have fired the missiles. We're two weeks out already, just give up.

Joakim Mogren is CG.
 
A couple of points is an astronomical difference.
I mean, when polls are showing Trump with like a 3 point lead in Texas of all places, a couple more points means we could swing a lot of races... but it also means that a full third or more of the country would still be all in favor of being ruled by a racist, misogynistic sexual predator, potential child rapist, incredibly-thin skinned narcissistic conspiracy-minded ignoramus with a child's understanding of policy and basic civics who can't even put out consistent and clear policy positions. Even if we win, America loses.
 
Trump dropped 7 points after the hot mic tape and plummteted even farther after the second debate. There is no such thing as a floor.

Also, Cesare is Cybit's alt and they're both trolls, the oppo is whitey tape and it doesn't exist, otherwise Clinton would have fired the missiles. We're two weeks out already, just give up.

Joakim Mogren is CG.

He dropped 7 points from where? It's easy to shed some of those quirky indies. You think it's possible to drop another 7+? The closer he gets to zero the more difficult it would be to shed those votes. For practical purposes there absolutely is a floor.

I'm not looking forward to OPPO either. I already said what I thought the effects would be and where the race sits currently. I also feel dirty about wishing for confirmation of drugging and rape. I just said that if it exists it should be released regardless of timing etc etc.
 
The light theme injured my eyes when I refreshed a page earlier in my dark room. Ouch.
1 - Audio confession or photographic proof, or
2 - as I said earlier, dead-girl-or-live-boy. Or,
3 - he paid for an abortion. Or,
4 - involvement of other officials in NY.
I wouldn't be surprised if 3 of these 4 existed. And no one would care. Even if the coke rape parties are 100% true it'd have no impact on me. I'd baked that sort of thing into my impression of him ages ago. What made "the tape" a little different is that it showed he's gladly like that in front of other people, in public, unprompted. In private? There's not a single stereotypical, tangential rich guy crime I'd put past him. Finance, taxes, mob stuff, parties, women, corruption. Any of it. Hell, he's proud of some of it!
 

Grief.exe

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Trump dropped 7 points after the hot mic tape and plummteted even farther after the second debate. There is no such thing as a floor.

Also, Cesare is Cybit's alt and they're both trolls, the oppo is whitey tape and it doesn't exist, otherwise Clinton would have fired the missiles. We're two weeks out already, just give up.

Joakim Mogren is CG.

The damage was actually done from the first debate, not the tape.

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He dropped 7 points from where? It's easy to shed some of those quirky indies. You think it's possible to drop another 7+? The closer he gets to zero the more difficult it would be to shed those votes. For practical purposes there absolutely is a floor.

I'm not looking forward to OPPO either. I already said what I thought the effects would be and where the race sits currently. I also feel dirty about wishing for confirmation of drugging and rape. I just said that if it exists it should be released regardless of timing etc etc.
I wanted a n****er tape so a sizable amount of early voting white Trump voters could feel like shit and never repeat this again. i have no shame.
 

Oblivion

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Also, for what it's worth, I was phone banking in Nevada, and there were a surprising (or maybe not surprising) number of people that I called that said they weren't going to vote for Hillary but were going to vote for the Dem senate candidate.
 
So now that it is clear Trump is losing it is time for the party of responsibility to blame Democrats for him existing in the first place...


http://theresurgent.com/yes-the-election-is-being-stolen/

Erik Erickson is now seriously claiming Trump is a clinton plant oh and that Trump's policies and beliefs are.. Democrat-lite...

Trump decided to get into the Republican race, build up an online army of trolls to make it look like he had massive support, then intentionally sabotage the race to hand it to his friend Hillary Clinton.

It turns out Rush is still right. Voters, when given the choice between a Democrat-lite and a Democrat, will always go for the real thing. Between a candidate who supports increasing the minimum wage and implementing socialist healthcare and another candidate who supports increasing the minimum wage and implementing socialist healthcare, the voters are always going to go with the Democrat, not the Republican who supports the same.
 

Chumley

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Rick Wilson is trolling about the oppo drop, sounds like it has to do with the underage girls / cocaine story. I can't imagine it being actual hard evidence that implicates him in doing something illegal since this is coming so late, but who really knows.
 

watershed

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So now that it is clear Trump is losing it is time for the party of responsibility to blame Democrats for him existing in the first place...


http://theresurgent.com/yes-the-election-is-being-stolen/

Erik Erickson is now seriously claiming Trump is a clinton plant oh and that Trump's policies and beliefs are.. Democrat-lite...

Conservatives are losing their minds and still lying their way through the election. They're a sad bunch.
 

tmarg

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Already setting up a narrative for a 2020 Cruz nom I see

I have to imagine the 2020 nom will be someone who didn't endorse Trump. Party elites and donors will probably get together on someone right after the midterms, it's the only way they can keep the Trump idiots from taking over again. If it's another wide open primary, the party might actually be done.
 
I have to imagine the 2020 nom will be someone who didn't endorse Trump. Party elites and donors will probably get together on someone right after the midterms, it's the only way they can keep the Trump idiots from taking over again. If it's another wide open primary, the party might actually be done.

The party elites and donors went with Jeb! this time.

It was sad.
 
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thepotatoman

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So now that it is clear Trump is losing it is time for the party of responsibility to blame Democrats for him existing in the first place...


http://theresurgent.com/yes-the-election-is-being-stolen/

Erik Erickson is now seriously claiming Trump is a clinton plant oh and that Trump's policies and beliefs are.. Democrat-lite...

Knew this was coming but didn't know it would happen so soon. They need to save some for the election.

And lol at the notion that the general election Trump is in any way different to primary trump. Republicans knew who they were nominating. They must be pretty dumb to elect a plant that wasn't even trying to hide how he was going to screw them in the general.
 

AniHawk

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Well there isn't another possible trump for 2020 so they've got that going for them.


Right...?

cruz got the silver medal this time. that was with rubio and kasich getting third and fourth.

democrats have a good bench at the national level. republicans have basically nothing, and all their up-and-comers get vilified from the right or putter out before the primary season.
 
So now that it is clear Trump is losing it is time for the party of responsibility to blame Democrats for him existing in the first place...


http://theresurgent.com/yes-the-election-is-being-stolen/

Erik Erickson is now seriously claiming Trump is a clinton plant oh and that Trump's policies and beliefs are.. Democrat-lite...
Between Obama's mom planting a fake birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper just in case he'd ever run for office, and then convincing Trump - a man with a long history of bigotry, who cares for no one but himself - to destroy his brand by running a disastrous campaign to ensure Hillary wins the presidency, Dems are getting pretty good at this long con stuff.
 

tmarg

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Well there isn't another possible trump for 2020 so they've got that going for them.


Right...?

Of course there is another Trump. Trump isn't anything special, he's a symptom of the nut job base they've been cultivating for decades. It doesn't take a particularly skilled person to manipulate them.
 
I've seen quite a few Texans mentioning that their vote had been switched to Clinton/Kaine prior to submission. There has been reports of calibration issues - sounds like they need to calibrate after every vote.

Does anyone know if the opposite has been occurring as well? Clinton ---> Trump.

Edit: Don't take my post as fact, sounds like some of the folks (all?) could be shilling,
 

Syncytia

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cruz got the silver medal this time. that was with rubio and kasich getting third and fourth.

democrats have a good bench at the national level. republicans have basically nothing, and all their up-and-comers get vilified from the right or putter out before the primary season.

The medals have yet to be awarded and Cruz is in no way coming out second. He was so close but he shot himself in face when he endorsed Trump. Little Marco barely has a chance thanks to Trump. Kasich won't be able to bring together the disparate groups of the party behind him.

Of course there is another Trump. Trump isn't anything special, he's a symptom of the nut job base they've been cultivating for decades. It doesn't take a particularly skilled person to manipulate them.

There's not another actual Trump, at least not any time soon. Trump had so many things going for him in addition the alt right movement the GOP and Tea partiers have created. "Self funding," outsider, was one of the most prominent people trying to delegitimize Obama, his brand recognition, his showmanship. There's much more to it than just spewing alt right talking points.

There is another...

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Yousa called?
 

Joeytj

Banned
I stumbled on YouTube videos of Trump supporters with their "predictions" for Nov. 8 in the Electoral College...

Some of them are just so insane, you have to wonder how they learned to use a computer, record their feed and make a video, much less upload it.

I've seen two where they truly believe that lawn signs are the only metric you need, so Trump will easily win New York, and get this, Secret Trump Voters™ will even deliver California.

It feels like the real deal and not just a troll. I had quite the laugh.
 

Syncytia

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The big thing on r/the_donald right now is Texas voting machines changing votes to Clinton. They don't even realize Hillary doesn't need Texas to win.
 

Emarv

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The big thing on r/the_donald right now is Texas voting machines changing votes to Clinton. They don't even realize Hillary doesn't need Texas to win.
Not just Reddit. All over my Facebook down here. Conspiracy stories about machines changing ballots until you ask for assistance. Warning of certain machines owned by Soros or whatever.

There's gonna be a lot of fake voting conspiracy stories on social media this year.
 

tmarg

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Not just Reddit. All over my Facebook down here. Conspiracy stories about machines changing ballots until you ask for assistance. Warning of certain machines owned by Soros or whatever.

There's gonna be a lot of fake voting conspiracy stories on social media this year.

The more they convince themselves the voting is rigged, the less likely they are to actually show up. I sort of feel bad about being amused by voter suppression, but considering that they are doing it to themselves...

I noticed that even Trump finally figured out today that it wasn't a good idea to claim the election itself is rigged, and switched his focus to the media and polls.
 
I've seen quite a few Texans mentioning that their vote had been switched to Clinton/Kaine prior to submission. There has been reports of calibration issues - sounds like they need to calibrate after every vote.

Does anyone know if the opposite has been occurring as well? Clinton ---> Trump.

Edit: Don't take my post as fact, sounds like some of the folks (all?) could be shilling,

Where in Texas?
 

Syncytia

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I think one of the reddit posts said Arlington but I don't really want to check. It's either completely falsified or it's some asshats putting Clinton then saying their vote was changed to "prove" it's really rigged.

I don't know how the machines work but the posts made it seem like there's a verify before submitting page or something.
 
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