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Finally the liberal media sees the Truth
I literally have tears in my eyes from laughing so hard.
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Tapper's response to that was fantastic.
Jake Tapper
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It's a question that has confounded millions of people for hundreds of years, @johnpodesta @jmpalmieri @kristina_schake
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/784502304389169152
djplaeskool
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Mighty Chin
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This Conservative Round Table on Face the Nation was embarrassing.
PantherLotus
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While I 100% agree, she absolutely floated this line of attack in the primary debates with her favorite enemy line.
Old school Clinton 1 vets and fans absolutely loved it (myself included) but you can tell it just didn't land well. So while all of us on the left are like "HELL YES SHE KNOW AND WILL CALL OUT THE REAL PROBLEM JUST LIKE BILL DID!!", she abandoned that more or less immediately.
Not sure if it's A/B testing or just a naive effort to swing red states (maybe for the house?), but there's no doubt running from it was a mistake. The needle she needs to thread is the difference between the GOP and conservative voters. So far between the favorite enemy and Deplorables line she hasn't been able to do that.
I saw this also. Even John Dickerson looked like he was paying lip service until he got to talk to the journalists from WaPo that followed.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Tying people to Trump just doesn't work. His own fucking running mate has high favorable ratings despite spending all his time defending/explaining his ridiculous actions and being with him in every picture. Doesn't matter how much they try, it won't work.
Mighty Chin
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Tammy Bruce was nauseating.
She's literally telling women to vote for Trump because he'll be better for them.
It's all doom and gloom with them over the last 8 years.
Wasteful Hillary!
It's still amusing how many "mistakes" the campaign has made in attacking too much, not attacking too much, boring people with ads, not running enough ads. It's very good that she's "lucky" enough to run against Trump instead of those good candidates that the GoP is hiding.
Okay. Maybe they should cry more when Americans think of Rob Ford first when they're asked about Canadian politicians.
Harper and Trudeau don't even compare to Hillary. Not even close. She's light years ahead of them.
Yep, that's my read on this. He's basically correcting his own surrogates, including Pence.
whyamihere
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Man. Trump at 29 in Virginia is just unreal.
Carpe Carnim
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Folks keep talking like inelastic partisanship in the US isn't a thing. Look, we're at least two different people when it comes to observable reality. Trump's ascendancy has just laid bare the fact that the GOP has succeeded in convincing its voters that Democratic governance is prima facie illegitimate. Whatever excuses those voters use to justify that are irrelevant to the goal of keeping "baby killing, feminazi, latte sipping, illegal gay-Mexican forced marriage" proponents out of government.
Dems have similar inelasticity, but I argue it's based on revulsion of the GOPs embrace of their bases' insanity, and the furtherance of rhetoric that encourages it.
Whattttt? What poll?
Doc Holliday
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You're right. Not only that if she goes to hard for those moderates, the left goes crazy. Weird fucking election all around honestly.
All of them...lol couldnt resist
whyamihere
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Dems suck at messaging where we need them most to really seal the deal. WHAT A SHOCK.
If we come up short in the Senate, Dems are to blame before anyone else I fear. There's more than enough for them to capitalize on. STOP FUCKING UP.
GregLombardi
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Hillaryis44
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Just watch Frontline: The Choice. It will tell you everything you want and need to know about both candidates.
This article is even better if you read it in the voice of Will Lyman from PBS Frontline.
I still don't understand the assumption that people are going to be doing a lot of split ticket voting. I don't see how a doenballot republican in these senate races, all things being equal, are not washed away when Hillary is ahead by the margins we're seeing in swing states.
I don't see how most Hillary voters won't just be hitting the all D button.
I don't see how most Hillary voters won't just be hitting the all D button.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...op-table-main_stormfront-658am:homepage/story
Really fascinating article about a child so indoctrinated by racism and white nationalism and his journey to escape and repudiate it.
Dunno if you know this but, correctly or not, a lot of Canadians define their "Canadian" identity as "Better than Americans." I'm not one of them, but it's a pretty common sentiment.
whyamihere
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Dems actually have the highest chance of winning the Senate that most trackers have had them in weeks (538, Upshot, PEC), so, I think this is wrong! Clearly something is happening and working.
Aaron Strife
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Dems are outspending Republicans in just about every Senate battleground but Florida. I don't think there should be a rush to blame Democrats if they lose, even if it will be extremely disappointing.
It's funny how the left/right react to losses. Right thinks everything is rigged, left starts cannibalizing each other.
It's funny how the left/right react to losses. Right thinks everything is rigged, left starts cannibalizing each other.
whyamihere
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We're already doing that even though it's more likely than not that we'll take the Senate.
The left cannibalizes itself no matter what happens.
It's something I've been thinking about. If roles were reversed and the right would take the presidency by 7 and the Senate, you wouldn't be able to breathe from the MANDATE shouting.
IggyChooChoo
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Textbook definition of the Don Draper "I don't think about you at all" dynamic.
Aaron Strife
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Right. Nevada is moving back. Indiana seems to be ok, Illinois a slam dunk like expected. Wisconsin polls have been a little troubling but 1 Russ is still leading and 2 neither party is playing here which gives me pause about public polling showing a tight race.
That leaves us with any one of New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania or Missouri and that's the ball game. And there's reason to believe Democrats are up in all four of those.
Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.
RastaMentality
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it CAN work though. in CA-10 (where my good friend lives), there's a large amount of latinos who like their Representative, Jeff Denham, because he's sweet and attends their churches but a lot of them don't know that he refuses to disavow trump. a few local articles have been written about it, but many people still haven't heard about it. Anecdotal I know but my friend's mom was immediately disgusted after she heard about him not disavowing trump.
It's not that it doesn't work. They started too late.
Dems went too long letting Republicans distance themselves from Trump without unendorsing him and didn't challenge that. You can't suddenly change strategies less than a month from election day and expect instant results.
Better late than never, but they should have started this much sooner.
Box of Kittens
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Not possible. Jim Webb and Mudcat Saunders are voting Trump. Saunders even said everyone he knows is voting Trump or something like that. Either way it won't matter when Trump wins New York and California.
The John Warner endorsement for Hillary seemed like it was a pretty big deal. What a contrast between him and George "I coached Mike Pence" Allen.
Thank you Pusha T.
TheAbsolution
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This is a great article.
djplaeskool
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whyamihere
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The idea of Virginia being called for a Democrat as soon as the polls close is insane for the recent history of it the state.
Aaron Strife
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Will probably look somewhat similar to the lt. gov race of 2013 which was a blowout. The gov and attorney general races had the usual strum und drang of following a Virginia race (both D candidates were losing until 80-90% of the vote was in) while the lt gov race looked solid for Democrats throughout the whole night.
If Clinton leads at any point before half the state is in just tie a ribbon on it because that shit is over.
IggyChooChoo
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Funny that Virginia is turning blue and North Carolina is going purple, -and Mudcat Saunders not only isn't part of it but is actively opposing it.
whyamihere
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I hear they're still counting ballots in NoVA from 2012.
Third Strike
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Give it another ten years and Virginia will be as blue as Delaware and Maryland. I hope North Carolina and Georgia aren't too behind.
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