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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam

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thcsquad

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TheLostBigBoss said:
anytime I see someone shit on republicans for denying climate change (when we have studies that show near half of all representatives accept it and want to find ways to fight it), I show them that the left has

1) Anti-nuclear fear mongering (not to be confused with actual debate on the cost of nuclear power, public opinion and other stuff)
2) Anti-GMO
3) Anti-vaccine

EDIT: Gah a double post!
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Climate change denialism is much more mainstream in the GOP than any lefty anti-science views in the Democratic Party..

The left has that, but Democrats have been really good at keeping BS like that out of national politics. Bernie touched on GMOs a bit, but really only went as far as labeling. We don't have any 'snowball on the senate floor' moments. we keep the crazies locked up. I think what you mentioned overlaps more with 'Obama is a secret muslim athiest dictator', which national GOP politicians tend to stay away from.
 
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excelsiorlef

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thcsquad said:
Climate change denialism is much more mainstream in the GOP than any lefty anti-science views in the Democratic Party..

The left has that, but Democrats have been really good at keeping BS like that out of national politics. Bernie touched on GMOs a bit, but really only went as far as labeling. We don't have any 'snowball on the senate floor' moments. we keep the crazies locked up. I think what you mentioned overlaps more with 'Obama is a secret muslim athiest dictator', which national GOP politicians tend to stay away from.
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For now....

nature boy said:
Can't they be sued for this shit? Who pays for this garbage?

Oh Little Marco: Rubio: Trump has 'improved significantly'

Trump predicts easy win in November
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Trump was spotted in aerial footage walking over an undeveloped strip of grass while entering the back of the building, where no protesters where spotted.

"That was not the easiest entrance I've ever made," Trump said to laughs once he took the stage. "It felt like I was crossing the border, actually."

At the end of his speech, Trump joked he'd have to go "under a fence, through a field" to safely leave.
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That pivot though /s
 
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eBay Huckster

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thcsquad said:
Climate change denialism is much more mainstream in the GOP than any lefty anti-science views in the Democratic Party..

The left has that, but Democrats have been really good at keeping BS like that out of national politics. Bernie touched on GMOs a bit, but really only went as far as labeling. We don't have any 'snowball on the senate floor' moments. we keep the crazies locked up. I think what you mentioned overlaps more with 'Obama is a secret muslim athiest dictator', which national GOP politicians tend to stay away from.
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more to the point, we throw all the crazies into the Green Party, where they subsequently fixate themselves on presidential politics and remove the possibility that they'll ever be relevant as more than a spoiler vote every four years
 
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ivysaur12

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SUSA also has (North Carolina):

Hillary: 49
Trump: 37

Hillary: 46
Cruz: 40

Burr: 37
Ross: 35 (CLOSEST POLL YET)

Cooper: 46
McCory: 36

EDIT: Their last poll on 3/9 had:

Hillary: +7 to Trump
Cruz: +4 to Hillary
Burr: +7
McCrory: +2
 
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AntraxSuicide

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Slayven said:
No one wants their logo on a dumpster fire
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Tons of companies would be down for that. Fire extinguishers, aloe vera, band-aids, airhorns. Any company that sells these should have billboards and banners all over the place.

fantomena said:
Btw, watching Bill Maher on HBO (yes, finnaly got HBO Nordic which means I can see Bill Mahers whole episodes).

Does Poligaf agreed with Bill that only Bernie would stay up against the GOPs "build a bigger military" at debates, not Hillary?

They are also talking about how weird it is for USA to have so unlikable candidates are the candidates. Bill called America a "hate-fuck election".
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1) Eh, I don't know how much anyone will stand up to the military, for several reasons. As an aside, Bernie sends tons of military stuff to VT, so it's not like he's an angel on this. The main thing is that not only is the military super favorable here, but we also do a lot of heavy lifting overseas for other nations. We're one of like 3 nations (I think Greece and maybe Spain are the other 2?) who fulfill our NATO budget support. A lot of countries would need some more assurances from us diplomatically if we start reducing our military in any way.

2) Likability isn't a great metric. Dubya was considered to be incredibly likable, and look how that turned out. Several good presidents weren't likable at all.

ivysaur12 said:
I don't know who any of these people are without huge signs on their bodies.
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AntraxSuicide

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ivysaur12 said:
SUSA also has (North Carolina):

Hillary: 49
Drumpf: 37

Hillary: 46
Cruz: 40

Burr: 37
Ross: 35 (CLOSEST POLL YET)

Cooper: 46
McCory: 36

EDIT: Their last poll on 3/9 had:

Hillary: +7 to Drumpf
Cruz: +4 to Hillary
Burr: +7
McCrory: +2
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That would be insane. NC gonna be a huge battleground, and Trump can't ignore it. He needs to gain ground on every swing state, PLUS maintain the states they've got.
 
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blackaroni

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DNC statement on data breach:
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Clinton response
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Holmes

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Hillary having a bigger margin over Trump than Cooper over McCrory is surprising but believable. The power of incumbency.
 
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Bowdz

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That NC poll is a canary in the coal mine for the GOP. If they are playing defense in NC, AZ, GA, and UT (lol) of all places, the race is fucking over. It'll probably tighten up during the general, but it is ominous to say the least.
 
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Macho Madness

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GOP Candidate Calls For Banning Everyone From The Middle East

A Republican candidate for Senate in Florida just one-upped Donald Trump in his bigotry — calling for a ban on anyone from the Middle East (except Israel) entering the United States.

According to a report from the Sun Sentinel’s Anthony Man, after delivering a speech to the Broward County Republican Party on Monday night, Republican candidate Carlos Beruff was asked about his “position on Muslim immigration.”

“Ah ha,” he responded, according to the Sun Sentinel. “I think our immigration department is broken. And I don’t think it’s safe to allow anybody from the Middle East into this country.”
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ivysaur12

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This picture was taken at a rally in Bridgeport, and this is the most perfect encapsulation of Connecticut.

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LOOK AT THAT WHITE WOMAN. SHE IS SO CONNECTICUT.
 
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excelsiorlef

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ivysaur12 said:
This picture was taken at a rally in Bridgeport, and this is the most perfect encapsulation of Connecticut.

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LOOK AT THAT WHITE WOMAN. SHE IS SO CONNECTICUT.
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Holy shit at the sweater scarf yuppie thing. I didn't even realize that was still a real thing

And just lol at that whole thing, diverse group of anti-Trrump people dressed in varying ways vs 5 or 6 of Trump supporting homogeneous looking upper class white folk claiming to be the silent majority.
 
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excelsiorlef

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And the hits keep on coming


‘A lot of what he believes, we believe’ — KKK Grand Imperial Wizard endorses Trump

Thomas asked the GIW if he had an opinion as to who should be president. “I think Donald Trump would be best for the job.” he tells Thomas. “The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes in, we believe in. We want our country to be safe.”

As a consequence of the Klan’s political mission, the group has been blanketing leaflets through central Virginia. The GIW says that President Obama has been good for his organization. “He has been a very good recruiting tool for this organization. And it’s not because he is black. We are more political than racial.”

The GIW is also clear that his organization will never support Ted Cruz, preferring a Kasich presidency. The reason?

“[Ted Cruz] is not an American citizen. Even if I agree with some of the things that Ted Cruz says, I would not support him because he was born in Canada. He is not an American citizen.”

The interviews cover several topics, including what differentiates the Klan from Neo-Nazi “punk thug” Dylan Roof. “He was a Nazi Skin-Head. Neo-Nazis and Skin Heads are socialist. We are not socialist.”
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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/a-l...eve-kkk-grand-imperial-wizard-endorses-trump/


But please Susan Sarandon remind me why Clinton is more dangerous than Trump.
 
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Hazmat

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cartoon_soldier said:
Poor kids.
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I think using your kids on either side of a political debate is disgusting. I wish that Trump-supporting mom had access to adequate childcare to let her daughter run around a playground not dressed like an American Girl doll instead of her being dragged to a Trump rally.
 
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nature boy

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Haha, "self made man" my ass:

Trumpology: A Master Class


Michael Kruse: I’d like to start talking about Donald by talking about Fred Sr. and going back to the very beginning, to Jamaica Estates [the Queens neighborhood where Donald grew up]. What do people need to know? What should we know about Donald because of his father, because of that relationship?

Harry Hurt III: I ran into Fred at Coney Island, with his secretary-mistress, one day, and he usually went to a place called Gargiulo’s down in that area. But that was closed that day, and so I was with my researcher and we tailed them over to the original Nathan’s hot dog stand. Donald was flying somewhere at the time, and we overheard Fred wipe some mustard off his lip, like this here, and he said, “I hope his plane crashes.” And I looked at my researcher, and I said, “Did you hear what I just heard?” He said, “Yes, I did.” I said, “Well, that’s my man. That’s Fred. The apple don’t fall far from the tree.”


Wayne Barrett: Fred was the consummate state capitalist, just like his son. Everything he did was subsidized either by the Federal Housing Administration or the state Mitchell-Lama housing program. And so political connections were all that mattered to him. I mean, that was the key to success, and Donald inherited that, and he inherited the connections for himself.

Hurt: They were Democratic, weren’t they, largely?

Barrett: Right. Out of the Madison Club in Brooklyn. I went to see Joe Sharkey, who—

Hurt: That wasn’t his real name, was it?

Barrett: Yeah. Joe Sharkey.

[Laughter.]

Barrett: He was the county leader of Brooklyn in the ’50s, and so I asked him, “When did you first see Fred at the FHA?” And he said, “I went down to Franklin D. Roosevelt’s inaugural, and after the inaugural I went over to the FHA, and Fred was already there.”

D’Antonio: Wow.

Barrett: So Fred was on top of every loose dollar or possible subsidy, and he was devouring it.

But, you know, this debate that Marco Rubio stirred, about whether or not Fred bequeathed $200 million to Donald, I think this is the whole point. I don’t believe it’s true, but I think it misses the point, and I think it’s a point that almost all of our books make, is that all of the original deals—Fred had to come in and sign the bank documents. None of them could have been done without Fred’s signature.

O’Brien: The Grand Hyatt [a New York hotel Donald Trump bought and refurbished in the 1970s] was co-signed.

Barrett: Yeah. I tell the tale about how Fred has to come to the closing in Atlantic City, and he’s against Donald going into Atlantic City. But he goes to the closing, they sit up there and sign all the documents with all the mob guys, you know, to buy all the leaseholds. And Fred and Donald leave and they go down to the limo, and somebody upstairs realizes that Fred missed one document. And they call out the window for Fred to come back, because they’re not going to do a deal with Donald.

I mean, I had his tax returns at that time. We got them—probably Tim got them—from the [New Jersey] Division of Gaming Enforcement, and Donald was worth nothing. He was worth nothing. Even the $35 million credit line that they started with for Trump Tower was signed by Fred.

O’Brien: So this whole notion that he’s said a lot—that, “Oh, I got a million dollars from my father”—that’s just pure hokum. His father’s political connections and his financial connections launched him, kept him supported. His father bought $3.5 million worth of chips at Trump Castle [the Atlantic City hotel and casino] when the bonds were coming due, to keep him afloat so he could make a bond payment. He inherited, probably conservatively, over $150 million from Fred, so that’s more than $1 million, just for the record.
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Great read. More at the link.
 
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excelsiorlef

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nature boy said:
Haha, "self made man" my ass:

Trumpology: A Master Class




Great read. More at the link.
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Barrett: Yeah. He really stopped being a builder.

Kruse: And Trump Tower went up in 1983.

So some of your books [Barrett’s and Hurt’s] came out in ’92 and ’93, and, to some extent, you were treating him as a man who was dead, at least as a businessman. How was he able to resurrect himself?

Barrett: Well, you know, with all this Tea Party anger that he’s appealing to now, he was the original bailout. I mean, the banks could have put him under any day. They took tremendous losses in those negotiations and deals. So they saved him. He was too big to fail.

Hurt: He was the original “too big to fail.”

Barrett: He’s the consummate example of what his voters rail against.
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Sick burn!
 
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