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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam

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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Trump-Gingrich? Eww

These fuckers might win. Hillary pls get your favorables up.

Also Biden should have run. If nothing else he would have nullified Berniementum.

Are you cray cray? Gringrich has had high unfavorables since the late 90s!
 

Clefargle

Member
Gonna be a lot of disappointed folks when the FBI wags their finger at her security, but no wrong doing was found and no charges will be filed.



I'm not really sure why, but a lot of (crazy) people seem to believe something is going down next week,

The Bernie People have not got much else to do right now besides yell about Clinton and "expect" things to be released. Bernie has no other shot without Clinton getting literally arrested.
 
Jesus you guys are really invested in one single vote.
It's not like that stupid ass Asimov story where future Nate Silver got so good that elections are determined by one person voting.
It's one vote.

Edit: yeah, googled it and it's about the future election of 2008.
Thanks Obama.

Yeah, it's...frustrating. I don't know how new people are falling for this gimmick every day. It's been months.
 
Seeing Trump get his "end of primary" popularity bump and still losing to Hillary gives me life.


Edit: God damn, I don't think there's a single thing this election that can trigger a crazy Bernie supporter more than by mentioning Nebraska.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Trump-Gingrich? Eww

These fuckers might win. Hillary pls get your favorables up.

Also Biden should have run. If nothing else he would have nullified Berniementum.

This is the pick Trump makes if he wants to lose. When I told my mother this was an option he was looking at when she asked she made this face, this face of pure disgust, that told me everything I needed to know about how she felt about this. I've never seen her make that face talking about anything else, she hates that dude on a cellular level and I doubt she's alone.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Whenever there's an office where I don't know any of the candidates I usually just vote for myself.
 

Doc Holliday

SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Watching cable news for the first time in a while and holy shit you would think Trump is the only person running.

No wonder he won the primary, it's trump trump trump.

If I wasn't aware of the democratic primary I would assume Trump was the presidential elect.
 
It's sort of annoying that the freshest national polls are DEAD HEATS from the four shittiest pollsters this cycle and one tracking poll.

Like if it's this close now that's still not a huge concern but I'd like to have some idea whether it's actually the case.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's sort of annoying that the freshest national polls are DEAD HEATS from the four shittiest pollsters this cycle and one tracking poll.

Like if it's this close now that's still not a huge concern but I'd like to have some idea whether it's actually the case.
They need to hold on to that statistical dead heat narrative as long as they can and I don't see it sticking much longer.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
They need to hold on to that statistical dead heat narrative as long as they can and I don't see it sticking much longer.

It's kind of sad that the media has played such a role in promoting Trump's cause and that was before they even got to the "we want elections results to be as close as possible so we get more eyeballs" part of the election.
 

thefro

Member
Why is Donald Trump so weird?

Using a fake spokesperson to call in an tell anecdotes about your life? Why not... just do it yourself?

How did this go on for 30 years lol

The more I read about him, the more he really seems like a bizarre little man who lives a strange life and has strange quirks.

He admitted he used the name "John Barron" under oath in 1990 during a trial.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/13/nyregion/trump-says-he-didn-t-know-he-employed-illegal-aliens.html

NY Times July 13 said:
Using the Name John Baron

Asked whether he knew about undocumented workers, Mr. Trump said, ''I really still don't know that there were illegal aliens.''

In earlier testimony to show the Trump organization knew about the undocumented workers, John Szabo, an immigration lawyer who represented them, said someone who said his name was Mr. Baron telephoned on behalf of the Trump organization in 1980 and threatened to sue him if he did not drop the workers' claims of back payments.

Mr. Trump acknowledged yesterday that he and one of his executives have used the name John Baron in some of their business dealings. He did not explain. And he was not asked about Mr. Szabo's allegation.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
It's kind of sad that the media has played such a role in promoting Trump's cause and that was before they even got to the "we want elections results to be as close as possible so we get more eyeballs" part of the election.

If the republican electorate wasn't batshit insane all that Trump coverage would have killed him. It was like 99.9% negative coverage. It's not the media's fault the GOP is filled with racists. That's the uncomfortable truth no one is willing to admit, so we blame the media.
 
If I had one wish, it was that the media didn't play middle man, they played fact man.

Let the sides go at it with each other, but always correct each side at the subject at hand when they start saying completely false and incorrect stuff to beef up support on their side.

Sure, it would hurt the GOP, but when you're entire party is based on basically ignoring reality to a degree, that's the price you pay
 
Also any news on SupCourt nominee stuff, or are they going to play this out till the very last moment before Clinton gets to do what she wants and accept Garland
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Also any news on SupCourt nominee stuff, or are they going to play this out till the very last moment before Clinton gets to do what she wants and accept Garland
Once the presumed separation in polling numbers takes off I think they'll have to think about it really hard.
 

Holmes

Member
This is pretty cool. But, why are the colors backwards? My brain can't cope.
Traditionally, the color for the left-leaning party is red and the color for the right-leaning party is blue. America just likes the be contrarian.
It's the media's fault.
 
Discrediting the pollsters for that sweet dead heat

It would be pretty easy to, just say "every candidate gets a bump when they become the official candidate"

Which makes sense. A 10%-15% win for Hillary would be impossible. Except that they totally ignored that point when discussing the recent DEAD HEAT that... still shows Trump losing.

well, a Trump dumpster fire campaign implosion could serve as an even better story than your usual boring "dead heat" narrative

True. People like train wrecks.
 
Traditionally, the color for the left-leaning party is red and the color for the right-leaning party is blue. America just likes the be contrarian.
It's the media's fault.

And the universal red/blue only became the standard in 2000. Before that, each network would decide what they wanted to do.
 
This... explains so much.
Mainly that he has no idealogical principles when it comes to policy and is just interested in do-nothing politics that center on being anti establishment.

There's really no logical explanation for supporting a libertarian for president and then a socialist for president. One less poster to pay attention to.
 
How in the blue hell are Republicans so fucking bad at Opposition Research? Like, how in the hell do you miss this? Why are you wasting time talking about fucking Trump steaks guys!?

I think it was here that I read Hillary is the one candidate to have taken Trump seriously and got a research team ready in early 2015. Nobody else had one until 2016.
 
I think about how good a job the GOP did in ensuring that W Bush was backed up by a really strong cabinet. I mean Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld... these were relatively moderate and skilled politicians. And all probably now considered too moderate for the GOP.

But seeing stuff like this publicist hilarity just clarifies for me that Trump isn't going to cede one iota of control to his cabinet, whoever they'd be. I mean, I believed that before I found out that his ego won't let someone else be his publicist, but that underlines it in permanent marker.
 

Holmes

Member
That's hilarious coming from someone who grew up in the UK where the colours were always established in my lifetime.
Same in Canada. The most left-leaning party there is actually orange. Honestly I don't care either way which color they choose for Democrats, I like them both. Maybe purple should be an option.
 
Mainly that he has no idealogical principles when it comes to policy and is just interested in do-nothing politics that center on being anti establishment.

There's really no logical explanation for supporting a libertarian for president and then a socialist for president. One less poster to pay attention to.

Well let's not be misleading. It was a libertarian in 2008. This year it's a centrist Democrat who isn't running, then a right wing anti-gay fundamentalist, then a socialist, then MAYBE a racist nationalist although that one's looking problematic these days.
 
NEVER MIND I GUESS NOT

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Here's the info:

A judge has delayed the release of the Bridgegate unindicted co-conspirators list until Tuesday. Her order came as the clock ticked down to the noon hour, when prosecutors were supposed to release the names of public employees and officials who abetted the plot to shut down lanes of the George Washington Bridge.

An unknown individual, filing as "John Doe," intervened at the eleventh hour. Saying the release of the man's name "brands him as a criminal without due process of law," his lawyer, Jenny Kramer, of the prominent Manhattan law firm Chadbourne & Parke, is asking a federal judge to stay the release of the names until she can argue her case.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/john-doe-seeks-block-release-bridgegate-conspirators-list/
 
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