smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Gonne be a fun next few weeks now.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.
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Gonne be a fun next few weeks now.
BoogieWoogie
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This first day sounds fairly boiler plate.
Infinite Stars
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So Comey on Monday, then this? We're finally seeing action, and hopefully all the dominos will fall. I know there's been stuff going on, but seeing it is different then it going on in the background.
Is it time to get to the happening bunker?
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Not just Comey next week.
FBI Director James Comey, National Security Agency Director Mike Rogers, former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper are expected to be invited.
Monday is the House Hearings and the 30th is Senate.
If nothing is found we fucked probably.
ArkhamFantasy
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I fully expect Comey to do whatever is best for himself and the republican party.
benicillin
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Which coincidentally would probably be to indict Trump.
Azure Dream
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I've often wondered if Comey was setting himself to look like he might be taking this seriously, only to pop out, "Oops, nothing's there, everything's A-OK!" So the administration and other Republicans can already say it's been seriously looked into.
"Now, back to Benghazi..."
Anyone that was hoping for an impeachment out of any of this is delusional anyway. In that case we're only fucked if people stop fighting policy.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Not expecting impeachment just hoping some more information honestly.
ArkhamFantasy
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You think so? Most of the opinions im reading is that Trump getting impeached/imprisoned would lead to democrat domination in 2018. I would love to see him go down, im just not getting my hopes up.
Infinite Stars
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The best option is to oust Trump. He's already up to 3 Things he could be impeached on(taking Clinton's impeachment/Republicans threatening Clinton with Impeachment as a basis) without Russia factoring in:
Botched a raid as CiC by being distracted and tweeting
Accusing a former president of wiretapping with no evidence
Erasing official government records(He's deleted tweets he made from the official Potus account iirc)
I don't see how Sane Republicans can look at Trump and not see him for the walking Disaster Fire he is, with all that entails and more.
Then again, this is the party that had 6 years to make a plan to repeal Obamacare And that's not happening any time soon.
QuiteWhittle
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Wondered that myself...
hipsterpants
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As much as I want them to be true, I think the left is getting too emotionally invested in the Russia stuff.
You're actually leaving out the myriad of ways he's violating the emoluments clause right this second. In truth there's a mountain of things to impeach him over and it only grows by the day.
Patrick Klepek
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No shit.
Let the Russia stuff play out, but focus on health care and the budget. Focus on what actually impacts people's lives, and what'll actually impact the ballot box in 2018/2020.
I think its worth really obsessing over. I'm not even American and this is beyond important. Fuck Russia tbh.
But gotta go about this properly. Left can't let go on policy.
Specifically, I find it upsetting that Democrats aren't going after Trump Admin on foreign policy. The stuff with Tillerson and Korea is ripe material.
Zeus Molecules
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Its because there is a definite feeling that all the fuckery is to get peoples' attention off of Russia. A lot of his fuck ups can be handled in court as well.
Infinite Stars
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I left out the Emoluments clause mostly because it remains relatively untested(even though the bitching by Republicans with Carter's Farm vs the silence regarding Trump's businesses), but "Botched Military exercise", "deleted records related to official government business", and "baseless attacks of political opponents" are all things that Republicans decried Clinton, with the first two being viewed as criminal( "Lock Her Up!" And all that shit).
Otherwise, yeah, the mountain of evidence continues to pile up. I just hope everyone in his administration goes down with him.
Especially because of the whole "Seriously, but not literally" thing
Why in God's name not
whyamihere
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Good for Tammy Lauren.
Infinite Stars
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Breaking News: Women, regardless of political bent, don't like to be told what they can and can't do with their body by a bunch of old white men
The frack?! Source?
RastaMentality
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Tammy's probably seeking attention since her star has been fading for a bit while she rots at The Blaze.
It's not like pro-life women don't exist
And she will shill for those looking to roll back abortion rights because states rights and "Roe is an abomination"
okay. He will be impeached but I think there would be a problem with the votes to convict. He would need 2/3 senate (67 votes). *Need R defects.
Infinite Stars
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I know they exist(My sister is one) and I'm as Pro-Life a Pro-choicer can get(Abortion should be the last option on the list, Birth Control/Pre-Natal/Maternal Leave need to be better recognized, etc), but no one likes being told what they can't do by people who don't have the same situation.
Women being pro-life: Fine, whatever, it's your decision, your body, etc
Men being pro-life: why? It doesn't effect you at all.
It'd be like giving a bus driver the ability to regulate your marriage, as the issues in play don't affect them in any way.
A pro-life woman wouldn't just be saying what they can do with their body, they'd be saying what other women can do with their bodies, too. If they aren't saying other women can't have abortions either, they'd be considered pro-choice, right?
I dunno, I'm seeing her more and more on my Facebook feed. She'll probably suffer like the rest of conservative pundits under Trump though because she won't be able to rant about Obama and liberals destroying the country and instead will have to spend time defending Trump
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thepotatoman
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Just because Emoluments was never infringed before doesn't mean it should be left alone now.
Honestly, this is one very specific thing where courts need to make an exception for the requirement of standing that's making the issue so complicated. There is a very clear constitutional intention to stop undue influence before it has a chance to cause harm, even if that harm is completely in line with the constitution.
Standing is a very important self check on the balance of powers, but it just makes no sense to apply it to this specific case, where the constitution requires them to be a check on the executive.
It's maddening to watch institutions try to prop up certain traditions to the point of outright ignoring a president that's tearing away the standard practice that those traditions relied on. They shouldn't tear down those traditions, just acknowledge situations those traditions aren't built to handle and do something about it.
Honestly, this is one very specific thing where courts need to make an exception for the requirement of standing that's making the issue so complicated. There is a very clear constitutional intention to stop undue influence before it has a chance to cause harm, even if that harm is completely in line with the constitution.
Standing is a very important self check on the balance of powers, but it just makes no sense to apply it to this specific case, where the constitution requires them to be a check on the executive.
It's maddening to watch institutions try to prop up certain traditions to the point of outright ignoring a president that's tearing away the standard practice that those traditions relied on. They shouldn't tear down those traditions, just acknowledge situations those traditions aren't built to handle and do something about it.
nature boy
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WTF Morning Consult
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Especially considering that Clinton got 3 million more votes.
FloydtheFathead
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NYMag/status/842800283013038082
So.. Neo-Nazi and Human Punching Bag Richard Spencer owns a cotton farm..
I have no words..
So.. Neo-Nazi and Human Punching Bag Richard Spencer owns a cotton farm..
I have no words..
Likely for his Role Playing hobby.
Liberals don't answer the phone in the morning.
RastaMentality
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What's the issue people on the left have with Merkel? Just curious.
excelsiorlef
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Oh no he's fucking toast if the Dems get the House and Senate back.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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She helped destroy the economy of Greece by not allowing Greece to ever deficit spend their way out of their catastrophic depression.
Spain also not in a good place.
excelsiorlef
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RastaMentality
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I need so badly for Pelosi to eat him alive.
Bonen no Max'd
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She's a center-right leader so she isn't that ideologically in line with us? She's pro-austerity, fairly socially conservative, etc. She's much nicer than any of our conservatives but she's still a conservative.
Italy is also very poorly off. In fairness, this is a problem with the EU in general rather than Merkel specifically. It's probably a bit of a leap to expect Merkel to advocate for a monetary policy that makes Germans poorer -- that's really the job of the ECB or the EU president.
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Nobody really cares about foreign policy that much. As someone just trying to get on with life, it doesn't make much difference to your day to day life if the US sends weapons supplies to Syrian rebels or not.
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