More_Badass
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Trump's not pardoning a turkey, just like he's not attending the Correspondents Dinner
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT2| Well, maybe McMaster isn't a traitor.
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thepotatoman
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The guy has absolutely no sense of humor and is way too afraid of looking silly, even though he makes himself look silly every time he opens his mouth.
Coriolanus
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i mean, he did host a SNL. And participated in a roast with very specific conditions about what was a no-go.
RastaMentality
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what an abnormal headline that Trump will likely not care about
I mean we're talking about the same guy who was going "Where's Rudy? Where's Rudy?" when Giuliani is sitting directly in front of him.
smokeandmirrors
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idek it's like a nightmare.
like someone at the pentagon had to have told him what NATO is and what it's actually for... right?
He thinks its a protection racket, the US spends more on military so we can tell Germany what to do or else.
Because in his mind, thats the only reason why the US would spent money on NATO.
smokeandmirrors
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which i cannot comprehend. like someone has to have told him NATO is also mostly a program to expand and maintain hegemonic influence that help him spread his brand and help him out...
but i guess having putin in your ear at all times means that doesn't matter.
Coriolanus
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is most likely not even about putin, but simply continuing to think of a country like a business. He sees cash going out, and wants cash coming in as a direct response to that. Anything that doesn't follow that rigid form of thinking is seem as innefective/ a waste.
Also pops up any time trade deficits are mentioned.
More_Badass
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Not content with fucking with the world as a byproduct of our stupid decisions, we decided to get more hands-on
Electric Eye
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Are they daring people to photoshop her into The joker?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W0XRLX3FU
Is this as crazy as it sounds to me? This senator is saying he hasn't yet received any information on whether a criminal investigation was being conducted against the Trump campaign? Is that a big thing?
I know Comey is speaking on the 20th.
Is this as crazy as it sounds to me? This senator is saying he hasn't yet received any information on whether a criminal investigation was being conducted against the Trump campaign? Is that a big thing?
I know Comey is speaking on the 20th.
Yeah that's weird.
I don't care what anyone says, picking Comey is literally the worst thing Obama ever did as President. He has to have serious regrets behind closed doors when talking freely about it.
Third Strike
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Yeah, which is weird since Comey was appointed in 2013, I believe. What Republicans did to Obama from 2008 to 2012 would have swayed me from nominating anyone from that party, especially to such a vital position. I think Obama's appeasement to the GOP during his tenure was his biggest weakness.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah, he did seem to learn eventually, but I remember him saying winning again in 2012 would "break the fever." But nope.
BlastProcessing
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Obama gave Flynn a job. I think that wins.
I always got the sense he was trying to lead-by-example DC back into rationality and a comfortableness with compromise. Obama loves his norms and I think he was a little too conservative on this point and blind to what was actually happening.
Obama didn't give him a job, he was active duty military and got brought up through that chain. Obama fired him.
Beer Monkey
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And then there's this? https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/842568053560918016
She looks shaken up. I think I saw this before, but I have watched it a couple of times now. It's an interesting thing, because now I see Grassley looks a bit shaken too.
She looks shaken up. I think I saw this before, but I have watched it a couple of times now. It's an interesting thing, because now I see Grassley looks a bit shaken too.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Would you like to examine your false equivalence on your own or do you expect us to do your homework for you?
Coriolanus
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what he did is kinda the exact opposite of false equiv, fwiw.
Ok, I was referring to this?
So me naming something that Obama did which I believe is worse than picking Comey is a false equivalence? Okayyyyyyyyyy then.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Blaming Comey is the easy way out people choose so that they can avoid facing the truth that Clinton should have never been the nominee.
Bonen no Max'd
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Comey did have a measurable effect, though it's hard to say whether or not the "undecideds" breaking for Trump would've happened either way.
On an unrelated note, decided to check some math and Florida had basically the same partisan tilt that it had in 2012. In 2012 it was 3.04 points more Republican than the nation as a whole, in 2016 it was 3.3 points more Republican.
I would not be shocked if in the end Comey's letter was not malicious but instead a completely bone-headed attempt to pre-empt a leak from elsewhere in the department. (Also, wouldn't be surprised at the malicious explanation panning out.)
If you had asked me at any point last year, "Should Clinton have run again?" my answer would have always been the same- "No." (I voted Obama in '08) But she did, and I made peace with that.
shinra-bansho
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Neoliberal drone strike Obama leaving Comey in place to subsequently break with precedent and do things that can influence elections is one of many things that affected the outcome.
Horrible failure Hillary being Hillary is another.
Which is why unemployed man Jason Kander should time travel back and become the nominee and win over white men with his white manness.
Horrible failure Hillary being Hillary is another.
Which is why unemployed man Jason Kander should time travel back and become the nominee and win over white men with his white manness.
Coriolanus
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Polling cratered immediately after the letter in state polling for Clinton. The campaign was catching this in their internal polls but it was too late for anyone to notice in the mainstream that close to election day. (no one was really running state level polls at that point or paying much attention to them.)
Diablos is constantly wrong about stuff soo
But the problem with your post is actually that you were apparently incapable of using the quote function so that people would understand what the fuck you were talking about so glad you were able to pick that bit of knowledge up so quick
Coriolanus
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ah true true. can see the 2 point drop for hills/ 3 point trump spike right after the letter in the rcp average, and she never quite regained those 2 points. M'bad.
I mean, go ahead and tell POC that their votes in the primary were foolish if you want, it's not like the primary was stolen from Bernie regardless what the tea party left wants to believe.
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And benghazi
smokeandmirrors
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Sounds like you should do some homework on what a false equivalence is.
LostMyNarbles
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So is nothing big expected at the Comey conferences? I'm confused if Grassley/Feinstein being shaken up means they were told nothing is happening/no evidence or there was evidence? I feel like if something big was uncovered then they would have moved on it already before revealing to public.
Is Jason Kander even a real person or was he perfected in a lab? This is amazing
https://twitter.com/braddjaffy/status/843256732751200256
https://twitter.com/braddjaffy/status/843256732751200256
Some days I almost wish I lived in Missouri so I could campaign for him. And it can't be said enough, Kander needs to be holding office somewhere.
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thepotatoman
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Pelosi is the worst interview in the federal government. She just gives the most cringeworthy quotes all the damn time. A recent incident was being overly combatitive by saying "we're capitalist and that's that" as the first thing to a young person asking about young people moving left economically, despite answering the question pretty well after that quote. Pelosi is one of the richest members of congress which alone isn't the best look for a democrat these days, and has been a part of democrat leadership since before the iraq war, so maybe it shouldn't be surprising when she sometimes sounds out of touch on what she says.
And unfortunately most people don't do the work to get around such terrible messaging to see her real contributions to government. And those that do have a lot of history they can cherrypick through to find stuff they don't like. Mine would be the post office pre-fund requirement and the repeal of most of the STOCK act, but both of those were passed unanimously so it's hard to pin that directly on her. There's probably other things others could find.
Establishment democrats also have a problem where they say big money fundraising is fundamentally corrupt, but they have to fundraise from big money in order to win elections under current fundraising rules, but that doesn't mean democrats are corrupt, but big money fundraising is fundamentally corrupt. It's just a paradox that doesn't complete until you become the outsider and imply the Democrats are a little corrupt too.
Maybe he'll pardon Clinton for those emails and rigging the popular vote in place of a turkey.
Even if it's not his worst decision, it's still one of his worst, I'd hope you would at least agree there?
Based on what he knew at the time or in hindsight?
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