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[kirblar]

But.. there's no getting ahead of this?

No amount of PR can get ahead of confirming I collided with a foreign power to win an election.

If it's not clear yet, let's make it explicit: Don Jr. is fucking stupid.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

People inside the campaign who want Trump & co gone.

(I would not rule out Bannon, whose agenda has stalled out due to Trump's incompetence.)

The only people on the email chain are Jr, Kush, Manafort, and Goldstone. One of them leaked the emails.

 

[benicillin]

The only people on the email chain are Jr, Kush, Manafort, and Goldstone. One of them leaked the emails.

Yeah like how the hell did the NYT get this email?

Russia?

 

[jack_package_200]

https://thinkprogress.org/devos-sexual-assault-bf7801b8264c

Betsy DeVos meets with ‘men’s rights’ activists

The department reached out to the National Coalition for Men, SAVE: Stop Abusive and Violent Environments, and Families Advocating for Campus Equality, according to Politico.
DeVos has not taken a position on 2011 education department guidance on campus sexual assault, which expanded protections for sexual assault survivors by requiring all schools to have procedures in place to handle and quickly investigate complaints. But her decision to meet with these groups isn’t a good sign.

The National Coalition for Men, which was founded in the 1970s, has a long history of what is now known as “men’s rights activism.” One of the groups’ chapters published the photos and names of women, while calling them “false accusers.”

Its like she finds new ways to be horrible.

 

[Box of Kittens]

Time to go all in on "collusion isn't bad, guys."

 

[FloydtheFathead]

If it's not clear yet, let's make it explicit: Don Jr. is fucking stupid.

There's stupid.. and then there's Darwin Award winner where you in one swoop surpassed your father in amount of stupidity.

I'm sorry.. but it's still flabbergasting.

Yeah like how the hell did the NYT get this email?

Russia?

Another good guess

 

[chadskin]

The only people on the email chain are Jr, Kush, Manafort, and Goldstone. One of them leaked the emails.

500 rubles on Manafort.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So is today the turning point for the GOP or nah?

 

[RustyNails]

But.. there's no getting ahead of this?

No amount of PR can get ahead of confirming I collided with a foreign power to win an election.

Exactly my point. There's getting in front of a story and then there's getting in front of a speeding train.

 

[kcp12304]

500 rubles on Manafort.

Trying to get Muller off his case and pin it on Jr.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

So is today the turning point for the GOP or nah?

considering there survey was like "do you support trump?" "do you think russia.."

I think they be getting worried

 

[ratcliffja]

I guess Manafort really has flipped then. This was probably leaked by the somebody in the investigation.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

So is today the turning point for the GOP or nah?

If he flipped, no way the FBI would allow this. Has to be part of the plea deal.

I guess Manafort really has flipped then. This was probably leaked by the somebody in the investigation.

Or that.

 

[Hubbl3]

The only people on the email chain are Jr, Kush, Manafort, and Goldstone. One of them leaked the emails.

I mean, BCC is also a thing. But even outside of that, people not on a recipient list for an email can still access emails. Front-end user experiences are generally tailored for us to not be able access anything outside of our own accounts, but back end technicians/admins/engineers/accounts most certainly can look at a lot of things.

 

[Barzul]

From what we know several people in the administration have known about this email and its existence for awhile. The responses to NY Times original article is telling. My money is on Kushner leaking the email. He noped out of the meeting in 10 minutes.

 

[benicillin]

So is today the turning point for the GOP or nah?

Today? No, but this has all the makings of the beginning of the end of something. You could not write a better sentence to sell people on how bad this looks than this:

The Times now has the email to Donald Trump Jr. offering Russian aid to "incriminate Hillary." His reply: "If it's what you say I love it."

 

[Tommy DJ]

The only people on the email chain are Jr, Kush, Manafort, and Goldstone. One of them leaked the emails.

If that's the case, Manafort is the obvious one, considering he's completely boned if he hasn't flipped yet. He aren't leaking but he offered the emails to the authorities.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

From what we know several people in the administration have known about this email and its existence for awhile. The responses to NY Times original article is telling. My money is on Kushner leaking the email. He noped out of the meeting in 10 minutes.

That's what Rick Wilson posited. I still don't get what he stands to gain here. What is his motivation in leaking this?

 

[JWiLL]

lmao this post does not age well after don jr's email post

True.

I don't think Don Jr. should be sent to jail though...just release him in the Sahara with no food or weapons and let nature run it's course.

 

[Hindl]

So is today the turning point for the GOP or nah?

Not yet, but it feels like the momentum is picking up. I'm looking forward to the next week of news watching how the GOP reacts to this

 

[i_am_ben]

What dealings has Hillary had with Russia? I can't really recall any off the top of my head.

 

[Barzul]

That's what Rick Wilson posited. I still don't get what he stands to gain here. What is his motivation in leaking this?

No idea except maybe to deflect attention from Trump and himself and use Jr as a fall guy and the new focus of the investigation. It might have been purely for self preservation.

 

[RumbleHumble]

That's what Rick Wilson posited. I still don't get what he stands to gain here. What is his motivation in leaking this?

Couldn't Bannon have gotten ahold of it somehow? I know he and Kushner are at odds and was the supposed leak on all those original Kushner meetings. It's not like this makes Kushner look any better.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

What dealings has Hillary had with Russia? I can't really recall any off the top of my head.

WELL WE'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT

STAY TUNED TO FOX NEWS FOR ALL YOUR REAL AMERICAN NEWS FOR MORE.

 

[Kusagari]

That's what Rick Wilson posited. I still don't get what he stands to gain here. What is his motivation in leaking this?

Wasn't there talk that Kush is leaking stuff to intentionally try to get Trump to fire Mueller, because he stupidly thinks that will make it go away?

 

[Holmes]

What dealings has Hillary had with Russia? I can't really recall any off the top of my head.

Probably some uranium bullshit

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Wasn't there talk that Kush is leaking stuff to intentionally try to get Trump to fire Mueller, because he stupidly thinks that will make it go away?

After how firing Comey went over, I doubt it.

 

[Plinko]

In case people are wondering are what is illegal, read this:

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/884797581573935105

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

What dealings has Hillary had with Russia? I can't really recall any off the top of my head.

This is the bit that still needs to be filled in--not necessarily actual dirt on Hillary, but the pretense. They didn't actually have anything for the meeting, apparently--was it really to lobby against the Magnitsky Act? What was the Russian angle, exactly?

 

[chadskin]

But really, who among us hasn't colluded with a hostile foreign government to try to win an election.

 

[teiresias]

What dealings has Hillary had with Russia? I can't really recall any off the top of my head.

Maybe she was one of those hired to pee on the mattress??!!!

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Yeah like how the hell did the NYT get this email?

Russia?

Paul Fucking Manafort

He wants a pardon

 

[sphagnum]

People inside the campaign who want Trump & co gone.

(I would not rule out Bannon, whose agenda has stalled out due to Trump's incompetence.)

Why would Bannon have these emails specifically?

It would be hilarious if the Russians gave the NYT the emails to mess with the US even more.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

What gets me that it's so cordial, tells me this isn't the first or last time this happened.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

Paul Fucking Manafort

He wants a pardon

Leaking emails that directly incriminate the President's son is a weird way of getting a pardon.

Why would Bannon have these emails specifically?

It would be hilarious if the Russians gave the NYT the emails to mess with the US even more.

This could be it. Putin wants those sanctions lifted now.

 

[Teggy]

If someone said offhand "this is part of Russian gov efforts to help you" & you were unaware of such efforts wouldnt you say "the what now?"

All the big Trumpers are retweeting the emails and saying basically "checkmate libruls!" Like, what do they think the emails say?

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Leaking emails that directly incriminate the President's son is a weird way of getting a pardon.

Not if there's more...

 

[Kusagari]

Manafort flipping and someone involved in the investigation leaking them makes the most sense.

 

[Cheebo]

Paul Fucking Manafort

He wants a pardon

If he wants a pardon from Trump leaking out stuff is not a good way to get on Trumps side.

Not if there's more...

Only one person can give him a pardon, and it is Trump. Leaking out stuff that hurts Trump or his family is not a good way to get a pardon.

 

[nature boy]

Oh man can't wait for the Fox News defense.

"Who never colluded with a foreign power to win an election"

"They're new to this, not establishment"

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I can't even imagine how the GOP would be acting right now if Chelsea Clinton held a meeting with a Chinese agent to get information on Donald Trump

 

[cartoon_soldier]

If he wants a pardon from Trump leaking out stuff is not a good way to get on Trumps side.



Only one person can give him a pardon, and it is Trump. Leaking out stuff that hurts Trump or his family is not a good way to get a pardon.

Trump's lawyers are advising him on this matters. This is Manafort's way to show he can ruin his family.

 

[Resident_UA]

I can't even imagine how the GOP would be acting right now if Chelsea Clinton held a meeting with a Chinese agent to get information on Donald Trump

BengaaaaaaaaaziiiiiI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EMAILS!!!

 

[Teggy]

Oh geez, jr. will be on hannity tonight.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

so

The meeting per the email was at

3PM


Donald Trump tweets about 33,000 deleted emails for the first time at

4:30 PM


AHAHAHHHHA

 

[sc0la]

I mean, this could be deliberate (factual) leaks by the "war room" to spin a narrative that it was just Donny jr being dumb, nothing more. But that strikes me as something that would absolutely backfire. My money is still on Pence loyalists inside the White House.

If the FBI statement is true that it's the first they are hearing of it it's going to snowball because I assume they already have contradictory statements from some of the involved parties.

Edit:

so

The meeting per the email was at

3PM


Donald Trump tweets about 33,000 deleted emails for the first time at

4:30 PM


AHAHAHHHHA

Email string moved the meeting to 4. He literally ran upstairs to tell daddy.

Spoiler

Or... daddy was there...

 

[Tommy DJ]

 

[RumbleHumble]

Trump's lawyers are advising him on this matters. This is Manafort's way to show he can ruin his family.

Manafort implicitly threatening to take down Ivanka?

 

[AntraxSuicide]

Manafort flipping and someone involved in the investigation leaking them makes the most sense.

I agree with this. Maybe Trump should've tried to play nice with the IC and various law enforcement agencies?

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

So is today the turning point for the GOP or nah?

GOP, nah but the fire Mueller crowd have negative legs to stand on here.