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[Plinko]

I mean, I'm fine with Trump forcing the GOP to keep bringing back BCRA. Just gives more political ammunition for democrats in 2018/2020 elections.

Literally nobody outside of Trump's cult fans wants this bill to pass.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Has anyone done the numbers on how Al Gore would stack up against Trump (or are we in the mindset that because he lost he'll never run again?)

I was under the impression that we'd be welcoming Joe Biden to the presidency in 2020.

 

[Diablos]

Why does reporting on literally anything the SC says or does have to be so horrible

8 years of Bush and Ginsburg/Breyer underestimating the importance of stepping down before the 2014 midterms

They are of a different political era and underestimate potential future conservative justices and what they'll do to the court and this nation

 

[Zolo]

Why does reporting on literally anything the SC says or does have to be so horrible

Because it's generally more complicated than a single tweet. I figured it was good news since I was already under the impression that they were given the 'ok' to enforce the ban weeks ago, and the Hawaiian ruling was allowed to stand that broadened those that can come over Today.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Why does reporting on literally anything the SC says or does have to be so horrible

SCOTUS rulings can be hard to parse, but everyone wants to be the first one.

 

[Blader]

COVERING ALL THE BASES

Seriously, this is a coherent mess

Didn't he say less than 24 hours ago he wanted repeal without replace?

 

[Diablos]

SCOTUS rulings can be hard to parse, but everyone wants to be the first one.

It would be a lot easier if Merrick Garland were there

 

[Aaron Strife]

It would be a lot easier if Merrick Garland were there

He was asking why media reporting on court cases is so bad, not why the court is so bad.

Didn't he say less than 24 hours ago he wanted repeal without replace?

He doesn't know what he wants because he has no grasp of policy, he just wants a win. He's floundering.

 

[Barzul]

I mean, I'm fine with Trump forcing the GOP to keep bringing back BCRA. Just gives more political ammunition for democrats in 2018/2020 elections.

Literally nobody outside of Trump's cult fans wants this bill to pass.

Not sure this is a good thing. What if they wear down the news cycles and just stealth pass it. I mean it's possible right.

 

[benicillin]

Not sure this is a good thing. What if they wear down the news cycles and just stealth pass it. I mean it's possible right.

lol you can't stealth pass a bill thats going to get rid of healthcare for like 20 million people, despite what republicans say about how Obamacare was passed.

again the only reason it got to this point was that the house wanted to kick the can down the road and blame someone else, actually getting people to vote for this garbage is pretty damn hard.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Not sure this is a good thing. What if they wear down the news cycles and just stealth pass it. I mean it's possible right.

This isn't a thing that will happen

 

[Diablos]

He was asking why media reporting on court cases is so bad, not why the court is so bad.

Ohh my bad.

 

[Y2Kev]

Doesn't dumb fuck trump know they can't even vote given McCain

 

[Electric Eye]

I mean, I'm fine with Trump forcing the GOP to keep bringing back BCRA. Just gives more political ammunition for democrats in 2018/2020 elections.

Literally nobody outside of Trump's cult fans wants this bill to pass.

At some point they'll just start ignoring him because he has no sway and isn't even interested in the details or lifting a finger beyond opening his mouth about it. I'm surprised the leadership keeps following his lead hes a lame duck.

 

[Owzers]

Every republican is trying to get to yes so I don't trust any of them.

 

[skullmuffins]

Shocking! Price's HHS analysis says the Cruz amendment is actually awesome, will totally lower premiums and boost enrollment.

 

[Diablos]

Every republican is trying to get to yes so I don't trust any of them.

Seriously. Never trust a Republican.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Shocking! Price's HHS analysis says the Cruz amendment is actually awesome, will totally lower premiums and boost enrollment.

lol and they were planning on using this as the report

Total garbage

 

[Zolo]

lol and they were planning on using this as the report

Total garbage

Now to see the CBO report on it.

 

[RumbleHumble]

lol and they were planning on using this as the report

Total garbage

We're still getting a CBO on the Cruz amendment, right?

 

[Blader]

Shocking! Price's HHS analysis says the Cruz amendment is actually awesome, will totally lower premiums and boost enrollment.

Little late to the party aren't they

 

[Autodidact]

Every republican is trying to get to yes so I don't trust any of them.

"From the authors of the Breitbart #1 bestseller Getting to Yes comes the next installment in this riveting saga of political intrigue and indifference to human suffering: How I Got to Yes: A Moderate Darling's Brief, Bipartisan Struggle with Indecision Before Voting for the Bill Anyway.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

We're still getting a CBO on the Cruz amendment, right?

That's the plan, now that McCain is out for awhile

Doesn't really matter, but it'll be fun to laugh at

 

[Ernest]

Trump just told senators not to leave town until the health care bill is passed...

Fucking LOL!!!

He thinks these guys are his employees at Trump Tower.

 

[Autodidact]

Yes, demanding that people sacrifice their vacation will surely endear you to them.

 

[Zolo]

Yes, demanding that people sacrifice their vacation will surely endear you to them.

While Trump himself goes off for the weekend.

 

[Kevinroc]

Shocking! Price's HHS analysis says the Cruz amendment is actually awesome, will totally lower premiums and boost enrollment.

https://twitter.com/larry_levitt/status/887738035609022464

The HHS analysis seems to compare the ACA with and without the Cruz amendment. It doesn't appear to incorporate the BCRA at all.

https://twitter.com/MattAFiedler/status/887736868678381570

Far from the only issue, but HHS's assumption that ACA subsidies stay in place in all scenarios likely has significant effect on results.

 

[Zolo]

https://twitter.com/larry_levitt/status/887738035609022464



https://twitter.com/MattAFiedler/status/887736868678381570

I guess that's one way to spin.

 

[Autodidact]

Drudge's criticism has me wondering, do we think that they've begun to set the stage for a Trump ouster? Every conservative outlet, including Fox, has chided, shaded, or even openly rebuked him in recent days.

I surmise that they know they can't boot him unceremoniously; they have to sell the idea gradually to their angry, brainwashed viewers. Thankfully, that group responds well to influence and propaganda, so if they keep at it, they'll eventually change some opinions.

 

[kirblar]

Drudge's criticism has me wondering, do we think that they've begun to set the stage for a Trump ouster? Every conservative outlet, including Fox, has chided, shaded, or even openly rebuked him in recent days.

I surmise that they know they can't boot him unceremoniously; they have to sell the idea gradually to their angry, brainwashed viewers. Thankfully, that group responds well to influence and propaganda, so if they keep at it, they'll eventually change some opinions.

They need to blame everything on him so that they can run in 2020 without him bringing him down. (this won't work)

 

[RumbleHumble]

Drudge's criticism has me wondering, do we think that they've begun to set the stage for a Trump ouster? Every conservative outlet, including Fox, has chided, shaded, or even openly rebuked him in recent days.

I surmise that they know they can't boot him unceremoniously; they have to sell the idea gradually to their angry, brainwashed viewers. Thankfully, that group responds well to influence and propaganda, so if they keep at it, they'll eventually change some opinions.

I think that might be giving the mass hive-mind of the Republican party too much credit. They'll flip back to their Trump-loving ways the moment Trump does something remotely praise-worthy. Trump just happens to be extraordinarily bad at his job.

 

[Electric Eye]

Drudge's criticism has me wondering, do we think that they've begun to set the stage for a Trump ouster? Every conservative outlet, including Fox, has chided, shaded, or even openly rebuked him in recent days.

I surmise that they know they can't boot him unceremoniously; they have to sell the idea gradually to their angry, brainwashed viewers. Thankfully, that group responds well to influence and propaganda, so if they keep at it, they'll eventually change some opinions.

No. They know the President gets printouts of right wing news sites and he watches A LOT of cable news, what they are doing is shitting on him because they know he is very self conscious and can't stand being criticized especially from the right so he will retaliate and blame it on the rest of the GOP. And its working its why he doesn't want them to go home. He doesn't give a shit about the bill he only cares about not being criticized on right wing news outlets.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Drudge's criticism has me wondering, do we think that they've begun to set the stage for a Trump ouster? Every conservative outlet, including Fox, has chided, shaded, or even openly rebuked him in recent days.

I surmise that they know they can't boot him unceremoniously; they have to sell the idea gradually to their angry, brainwashed viewers. Thankfully, that group responds well to influence and propaganda, so if they keep at it, they'll eventually change some opinions.

Has Drudge specifically targeted Trump? From what I've seen he has been congressional republicans, specifically the leadership.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Has Drudge specifically targeted Trump? From what I've seen he has been congressional republicans, specifically the leadership.

He definitely seems to be turning on Trump the past couple weeks.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Has Drudge specifically targeted Trump? From what I've seen he has been congressional republicans, specifically the leadership.

Just today Drudge posted Rasmussen polling data showing strong support for Trump on the decline while sharp opposition on the rise.

 

[Autodidact]

No. They know the President gets printouts of right wing news sites and he watches A LOT of cable news, what they are doing is shitting on him because they know he is very self conscious and can't stand being criticized especially from the right so he will retaliate and blame it on the rest of the GOP. And its working its why he doesn't want them to go home. He doesn't give a shit about the bill he only cares about not being criticized on right wing news outlets.

But couldn't that strategy backfire? They get Trump to criticize the rest of the GOP, those sitting GOP members get primaried by loonies, and Democrats win in November 2018, ultimately stymieing the conservative agenda.

 

[Plinko]

Shocking! Price's HHS analysis says the Cruz amendment is actually awesome, will totally lower premiums and boost enrollment.

Isn't the Washington Examiner the right-wing news source?

 

[RumbleHumble]

Isn't the Washington Examiner the right-wing news source?

It's the "fair and balanced" Washington Post competitor.

 

[SerAardvark]

Isn't the Washington Examiner the right-wing news source?

Yep, which is why they're promoting the surely unbiased and correct HHS analysis

 

[Aaron Strife]

https://twitter.com/larry_levitt/status/887738035609022464



https://twitter.com/MattAFiedler/status/887736868678381570

I mean yes, if you introduced a cheaper, more barebones plan into the current system you would get more people to sign up.

Some Democrats have proposed something similar with the copper plan, but even that's better than Cruz's option.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

@Edatpost

WOAH: @SenAlexander, in a scrum aired live by CNN, says "I don't think there are 40 votes" for a repeal-only bill.

Productive lunch huh?

 

[dramatis]

Isn't the Washington Examiner the right-wing news source?

It's not the Examiner that's the problem in this equation honestly. Price's HHS is obligated to say Cruz amendment is awesome because they don't deal in facts there, they just come up with fake stuff to support their case.

 

[Zolo]

It's the "fair and balanced" Washington Post competitor.

Not that familiar with it, but I know the bias website put it at right-center rather than just right like Fox News.

 

[sangreal]

“We’re gonna get this passed through the Senate,” Trump said then. “I feel so confident.”

well, now I feel better

 

[Aaron Strife]

Productive lunch huh?

He doesn't think there are 40... there are 50!

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Productive lunch huh?

Haha

 

[Paches]

So which bill are they gonna vote on motion to proceed? Repeal and replace later or the original bill + Cruz amendment? No amendment?

 

[sangreal]

Shocking! Price's HHS analysis says the Cruz amendment is actually awesome, will totally lower premiums and boost enrollment.

This HHS 'analysis' needs to be mocked so thoroughly that nobody thinks to try such a brazenly partisan hack job again

So which bill are they gonna vote on motion to proceed? Repeal and replace later or the original bill + Cruz amendment? No amendment?

The AHCA I believe. The other texts won't be inserted until the debate begins

 

[kirblar]

http://www.andrewbenjaminhall.com/Hall_Thompson_Base_Turnout.pdf

Going full left or right is a bad idea! (And I'd make the argument that Trump didn't run as one, he just lied his ass off and said what people wanted to hear because he's a compulsive liar!)

 

[B-Dubs]

http://www.andrewbenjaminhall.com/Hall_Thompson_Base_Turnout.pdf

Going full left or right is a bad idea! (And I'd make the argument that Trump didn't run as one, he just lied his ass off and said what people wanted to hear because he's a compulsive liar.

Gonna give this a read later