If John McCain could read the political winds, he would not have run for president in 2008 or picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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If John McCain could read the political winds, he would not have run for president in 2008 or picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
Box of Kittens
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Two.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is a pretty stunning chart I found on twitter dot com
Might be a dumb question--do we know why? Is this because of Trump making democrats more energized? Because Clinton wasn't a great candidate and that drove down the vote on election day? Because people thought she'd be a shoo-in so they didn't vote on election day?
Roland_Gunner
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Two. Collins and Paul have been the hardest nos followed by Murkowski, Cruz and Lee as a team, and then Heller.
AntraxSuicide
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2. Strategically I think they could pull it off but if they do, someone is a sketchy race has to vote Yes.
Bonen no Max'd
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Two.
Does anyone else notice the Missing Maverick McCain who had a Multitude of Misgivings?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah, which is why I'm still very optimistic about it not passing.
Why would you fall on the sword, for this bill?
If you had to choose a single event that changed McCain, it would have been that.
balladofwindfishes
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Cruz is a no?
Hmm... wonder what they'll have to give him to get him on their side. Probably something that turns away the others.
Yea, I think it was 3 or 4 late last week. This is the first time I've seen Cruz as a no
Hmm... wonder what they'll have to give him to get him on their side. Probably something that turns away the others.
Yea, I think it was 3 or 4 late last week. This is the first time I've seen Cruz as a no
BoogieWoogie
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Its fucking unbelievable that so many people are on board for a bill they HAVEN'T READ.
You would think Cruz would vote against it as simply a giant Fuck You to Trump.
You would think Cruz would vote against it as simply a giant Fuck You to Trump.
Do we know who's *actually* writing the damn thing? I doubt McConnell is sitting alone in his hole writing this
BoogieWoogie
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13 white male Republicans. I thought Cruz was one of the people writing it?
Autodidact
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Damn, Cruz and Rand probably want some far-right Tea Party bullshit that will alienate the others.
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Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
He writes bills inside his shell.
a few of those 'no' votes are easy to flip, but its going to be a tight rope for mcconnell since several of them are against it for diametrically opposed reasons
we heard the same kind of stuff coming out before the house vote too. a lot of it is just posturing
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we heard the same kind of stuff coming out before the house vote too. a lot of it is just posturing
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fredrancour
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The republican party is the party of unrestricted capitalism at best and some kind of oligarchy at worst. What could possibly be a higher political priority in that space of opinions than repealing the largest act of wealth redistribution in decades?
Box of Kittens
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I really hope this is correct because I don't want the AHCA to pass, but I don't think I can breathe easy until we have a Dem House.
He's a no on his own bill? I love this reality show
As I would have expected
whyamihere
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How many nos can they afford?
Dubbedinenglish
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Polls are still open in ga OMG
Autodidact
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I'll breathe a little easier when we get to fall. Midterm election season will begin and make them a little more hesitant. An Ossoff win today might move that process forward by a few months.
Brawndo Addict
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Too much blame is placed on young people who have always never voted much and will continue to never vote much long into the future. What's more important is to remember that the number of disenfranchised voters far exceeds the number of 'missing' young voters. Who cares if you could get a couple extra thousand student voters here and there when Republicans are shutting down precinct locations, cutting hours, instituting voter ID laws, and making voting as hard as possible to engage in.
The very fact that voting takes place on a non-holiday weekday alone puts Democratic voters at an enormous disadvantage.
The very fact that voting takes place on a non-holiday weekday alone puts Democratic voters at an enormous disadvantage.
Box of Kittens
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Tyler's model says seven for now but he's about to add some more variables. Stand by.
Aaron Strife
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I imagine Cruz wants nothing less than a straight repeal or a dismantling of Medicaid. He's definitely not coming from the same place as the moderates. Not sure what they could do to get him on board, and I guess that's a good thing, even if it's his complete lack of human decency that's the source.
Heller purposely wants to lose his seat.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Unless the polls are off by a couple of points against Ossof, a competent politician should note the current wave regardless if he wins.
Nice callback.
Autodidact
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I know, but a tangible win might emphasize the point and send them from scared to panicked.
PSA has Schumer on today. Curious to hear if they ask him about withholding consent, vote-a-ramas, etc.
I would've said the 2000 cycle, when he bent the knee after Bush's campaign had launched a racist attack against McCain's daughter during the South Carolina primary.
I would've said the 2000 cycle, when he bent the knee after Bush's campaign had launched a racist attack against McCain's daughter during the South Carolina primary.
VendettaRed07
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If Ted is a no then it must be that he's done some research that said a yes vote would make his reelection bid harder than it has to be
AntraxSuicide
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None, they prefer Monster
But he's writing the bill!
balladofwindfishes
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Maybe he finally wised up that a 10+ D wave might endanger his seat lol
Autodidact
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Hmm... that's the swing county. I'd feel better if turnout in Cobb, the Republican one, were lower.
Basically the same thing that killed the bill in the House the first time.
cartoon_soldier
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Source?
https://mobile.twitter.com/TopAtlantaNow/status/877243954001047556
Fulton is the swing county. Lower e-day turnout probably benefits Ossoff considering his banked in early votes.
IggyChooChoo
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I am once again disappointed this did not lead to a detailed description of these Welsh village fetes you keep alluding to.
Dubbedinenglish
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Votes are being cast
Spoiled Milk
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RustyNails
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Trump is going to blame the rain for Handel's loss.
BoogieWoogie
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It's literally going to be worse than the House Bill. This is un-fucking-believable.
https://www.axios.com/thursdays-senate-health-bill-likely-to-change-next-week-2445162138.html
https://www.axios.com/thursdays-senate-health-bill-likely-to-change-next-week-2445162138.html
I thought Repunlicans were showing up massively for early votes this time though
Aaron Strife
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Maybe that PPP poll showing him trailing a Generic D by 7 points, combined with Rosen's announcement scared the shit out of Heller.
I've said it before, I think Murkowski is genuinely concerned about the Medicaid cuts to the point that she'll actually vote against it, Alaska in particular gets hit pretty hard by AHCA. I know that's lost on most Republican Senators but if a bill strongly adversely affects your state (even if it's a good bill on balance which AHCA definitely is not, it just hurts other states less) I'd expect any decent representative of their people to vote against it.
I know Democrats stand to gain plenty under an AHCA apocalypse but I'd really rather not. Plus it's easier for the next Dem president to improve ACA or transition to a universal system from there than fucking around cleaning up Trump's mess.
I've said it before, I think Murkowski is genuinely concerned about the Medicaid cuts to the point that she'll actually vote against it, Alaska in particular gets hit pretty hard by AHCA. I know that's lost on most Republican Senators but if a bill strongly adversely affects your state (even if it's a good bill on balance which AHCA definitely is not, it just hurts other states less) I'd expect any decent representative of their people to vote against it.
I know Democrats stand to gain plenty under an AHCA apocalypse but I'd really rather not. Plus it's easier for the next Dem president to improve ACA or transition to a universal system from there than fucking around cleaning up Trump's mess.
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