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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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Star Power
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Gaborn said:
Ummm.... not true.
So because they haven't covered it in a couple weeks, they didn't cover it in the past? It was a *huge* story on all the networks and news sites in two separate waves. First when it broke, and then again when Wright resurfaced. It's not getting coverage now because 1) the primary just ended, 2) Obama just won and 3) the media is now obsessing over the veep situation.Gaborn said:
guess said:
... because I recognize that if you're voting for Obama based solely on this information that's probably a bad decision? As I said, it's impressive. I also pointed out that I care more about his positions on the issues than his IQ. Is that somehow a problem for you? Seriously now, just because I'm not in love with Obama doesn't mean I'm "downplaying" something, it means I don't think something is as important as you do.
Tamanon - I don't see everything Obama does in a negative light, he's done a great job for many people and he's touched a lot of people in a positive way, I just don't find him as completely awe inspiring as a lot of people in this thread do, is that a problem for you?
guess said:
Well, I thought it was mostly a non-story by the media, but I think he handled that the right way, he didn't let it gain too much traction and he apologized for the idiot, as well as disassociating himself from him. I thought that was classy from Obama and that he did the right thing, even though the media tried to make it more of a story than it was (and no, that's not contradictory with my view his coverage has been mostly overwhelmingly positive).
Tamanon - I'm NOT lying, I haven't seen this giant media conspiracy you seem to have against Obama, I saw some reverend wright coverage, sure, but it's not like a TRULY negative campaign story and you know it very well. Seriously, this is why most people that don't care for Obama don't like these thread, I can't imagine many people enjoy being called "liars"
Gaborn said:
Who said it was overwhelmingly negative? We're all saying that it's not this random media love-fest you assert it is. There is a middle-ground, I know that's a foreign concept to you though!
Ami: No updates whatsoever, Obama's taking the weekend off and McCain's out varmintin' in the Everglades.
- Obama and Hillary held a secret meeting at Senator Feinstein's house, giving the media the slip (they were camped outside of Hillary's house).Amir0x said:
- If elected, Obama would have the highest certified IQ of any president (171 - genius level).
- McCain copies Obama's slogan again and launches "The Blog You Can Believe In".
- I'm back
- Naz releases a surprisingly decent track in Obama's honor
- Obama will be hosting a sleepover this Saturday for seven kids for his daughter's birthday
- Inspiration for the Michelle Obama "whitey" video revealed by a conservative blogger.
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How was Rev. Wright not a "truly negative campaign story"? CNN/MSNBC AND FOX spent practically a whole month talking about it day after day, even after Obama gave his speech on race.. and then they broacasted Wright's speech to the NAACP and to the Press Corps live in their entirety, had *BREAKING NEWS* bulletins about Wright's schedule changes, talked about how this could end Obama's campaign, how it's a huge problem for him even though the polls have pretty much shown otherwise, it's brought up every single time when they're talking about exit polls, "does Obama share Rev Wright's views" is one of their main exit polling questions now..
It's not that you don't support Obama - we all get that - it's just that you're a little overbearing about it and try to spin every little thing into a negative. Like totally overreacting about his position on marijuana...
It's not that you don't support Obama - we all get that - it's just that you're a little overbearing about it and try to spin every little thing into a negative. Like totally overreacting about his position on marijuana...
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And that's not even mentioning "BITTER-GATE"/ "Why can't Obama seal the deal?"/ The last ABC debate/ ZOMG OBAMA CAN'T BOWL LOLOLZ/ "You're likeable enough"-gate/NAFTA-gate/etc.
DrForester
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I think he Father Phleger thing was downplayed because to many networks were afraid one of their anchors would make some comment about it being mostly true.
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Tamanon said:
Ah, he voted against giving money to restore the Everglades as well. The Democrats have almost too much at their disposal to use again McCain.
Tamanon said:
Sure, there is definitely a middle ground in coverage. And I'm saying coverage has not been 50-50 (middle ground) or even 60-40 positive, I'm saying it's more like 75-85% positive. I NEVER denied there were negative stories, I said coverage has been overwhelmingly positive in both degree and depth. It's a historic campaign without question, but I don't think it's unfair to say most of the media has already anointed their winner, do you? I mean, honestly, asking "is obama the smartest man ever to run for office?" That kind of hyperbolic response is what I'm talking about, the media behaves like giggling schoolgirls in much of their coverage of Obama and I find it interesting.
polyh3dron
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Deus Ex Machina said:
For fun I did a couple searches in Lexis-Nexis of Major U.S. and World publications over the last two years for potentially negative stories over the past two years:
obama AND pfleger = 88
mccain AND hagee =137
clinton AND pantsuit* = 985
clinton AND bosnia = 998
obama AND wright = 2501
obama AND pfleger = 88
mccain AND hagee =137
clinton AND pantsuit* = 985
clinton AND bosnia = 998
obama AND wright = 2501
DrForester
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The media just tried to string this primary season along, and it worked flawlessly.
thekad said:
Absolutely, but the media hasn't typically given the front runner so much more positive coverage to go along with negative coverage. Seriously, you don't think Obama's coverage has been much more positive than negative? I'm NOT by the way arguing Obama's coverage should be majority negative, but the coverage has certainly not been 50-50.
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polyh3dron said:
America is so stupid. Why would you not want a president who has an IQ of 166?
Ashitaka said:
That's definitely true, the coverage of Obama and Wright received more attention than McCain and Hagee. I wonder though, which receives more coverage period, Obama, or McCain? ("Barack Obama" = 163,211, "John McCain" = 118,728, both just according to a quick 'n dirty google news search) That of course doesn't go to other negative stories about McCain (the lobbyist story for example? The Keating 5?)
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thekad said:
Don't forget "Sweetie-Gate" lolz
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Gaborn said:
Do you realize that he could be the first black male elected president in any country ran historicly by white people (i.e. America, Canada, Britin, Russia, etc.)
This is a HUGE time in history!
mckmas8808 said:
That's true, we should vote for every single office based solely on intelligence.... what? Again, intellect is not a bad thing, but do you honestly think it's the only thing? (not that we have any idea of McCain's intellect)
also, yes, I agree it is a historic moment, whether or not Obama wins the presidency he's already broken that barrier for blacks and he should be proud of that moment.
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Gaborn said:
No one said we should vote for Obama because he (supposedly) has a high IQ. People are commenting on the fact that that would actually be perceived as a negative to many people, and Obama's camp is allegedy angry that this story is coming out...
No one has stated that anyone should vote based on that. No one.Gaborn said:
People are reacting to the sad state of America where a campaign has to be worried about a high IQ being seen as a negative by voters. And let's face it, given some of the reasons people voted for Bush, there might be reason to be worried.
Some lady on CNN was just a second ago claiming that Hillary's gender played a significant role in her losing, while simultaneously admitting that her gender garnered her more votes at the polls.Zeed said:
It's probably best to just leave those Hillary supporters alone with their cognitive dissonance.
Edit: Perhaps in an ideal world, but Obama just made history and has been in a long, drawn-out primary. McCain is probably glad he's been left alone, anyway.
Star Power said:
Ok, that's true enough, and I don't think that's fair either. Still, I think that the concern is not so much that it's a negative that Obama is apparently more intelligent than even most people thought, the concern is more narrowly whether that hurts peoples ability to relate and connect to him. Honestly, I don't think it will for the most part, Obama's got an incredibly magnetic personality, he seems to have a really good handle on controlling an audience and getting them to respond to that, he's very natural when he's speaking. Still, some people have a natural dislike for "high class" authority figures, some people probably do perceive intelligence and culture as not being a "regular" person, and I'm sure there are going to be people (because they exist in just about any campaign for any candidate) who will think Obama (and McCain) are not "like them" and don't really understand their issues.
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Star Power said:
to be honest i think the only networks that made it out as some horrible ordeal was fox. the other networks were simply covering it and discussing the rammifications of the issue with voters
LOL!!!
Just found out that Harriet Christian, the racist woman kicked from the Rules and Bylaws meeting, works a few blocks away from me.
She's a waitress at a local restaurant in lower east Manhattan.
My parents are friends with the restaurant owner and he has NOT been happy with the publicity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s&feature=related
Just found out that Harriet Christian, the racist woman kicked from the Rules and Bylaws meeting, works a few blocks away from me.
She's a waitress at a local restaurant in lower east Manhattan.
My parents are friends with the restaurant owner and he has NOT been happy with the publicity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s&feature=related
mckmas8808
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Gaborn said:
Honest question Gaborn. Do you know who this guy is beside Obama?
ShOcKwAvE said:
... wow.... :lol :lol :lol is she drunk?
edit - Yeah, isn't he that guy who was involved in some shady real estate deal and Obama had some vague tangential involvement? If so the media isn't covering it much (some, but not much). I mostly heard about it since I'm a political junkie.
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