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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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maybe Gaborn's passionate defense is indicative of his hopes of becoming McCain's running mate?
on a side note, does anyone see the irony of the 'no sexism' disclaimer in the first post of the thread juxtaposed with the 'wizard of oz' subtlety below it?
on a side note, does anyone see the irony of the 'no sexism' disclaimer in the first post of the thread juxtaposed with the 'wizard of oz' subtlety below it?
DarienA said:
It's my fault because I had an opinion, some people disagreed (and resorted to personal insults in some cases) and I defended my opinion? It takes two people to argue.
Reilo - I'm not baiting, I'm disagreeing with people, and I'm backing up my assertions and actually examining evidence provided to me. Accusing me of being a McCain supporter, an Ass, and that I think Obama's a communist is baiting however, at least in my opinion.
...Gaborn said:
So then what's the problem?!
Obama gets good media coverage because he's energized the country and he's a pretty clean politician. McCain struggles to get any coverage at all, let alone positive, because he's a boring old man without any original ideas.
It's not the media's responsibility to figure out a magical way to equalize coverage between candidates, and certainly not positive/negative stories. That certainly wouldn't mean news organizations were 'unbiased' either.
Jeez, that Mother Teresa coverage sure is overwhelmingly positive! Where's the other side to this story?*
*Not a comparison to be taken seriously.
mckmas8808
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Gaborn said:
SHARPLY DROPPED TO THE NUMBER 2 STORY!!!!
What is it about you that just doesn't let you understand stats? It dropped to be the number 2 story. Do you not understand that being the number 2 story is heavy media coverage also?
...actually, since you asked for it!Dan said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OPsQCutg2Fw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=46IjD9rRq70
http://youtube.com/watch?v=szQwMaXh4Ko
Dan said:
Well, I'm honestly at this point not totally sure where the problem is. Again, for me this discussion was NOT about McCain. For me this discussion started here and people have spend the next several pages trying to indicate where I'm wrong, without actually providing evidence that my comment was wrong, although I did expand on it a bit later when I clarified that the Wright story was big, in my estimation for 2 weeks and scaled back afterward. Beyond that... I don't really have any disagreements.
Reilo - For you,
Gaborn said:
But your point wasn't that Obama received overwhelming positive coverage. Your point was that he received it more-so than ANY other candidate in existence.
That graph showing Obama having 69% positive coverage to Hillary's 67%? Yeah, that completely disproves your theory [or opinion, whatever the hell] that Obama receives more positive coverage than any candidate to date.
If you think two percent is an overwhelming difference in light to the bullshit Hillary has tried to pull, then I don't know what to tell you.
reilo said:
Well, technically I ASKED if anyone had received more positive coverage than he did, I thought he had, and i was right, you're right though, it wasn't by a significant margin though. Anyway though, bed time.
Ah, more demon, lovely. And again, reason why conservatives don't go into poligaf? Look above!
mckmas8808
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Gaborn said:
Dude! It was scaled back to be the number 2 story for 4 more weeks. So it was the number 1 story for 2 weeks by far, then it was a close 2nd for 4 more weeks.
That adds up to be about what?......6 weeks right?
mckmas8808
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Gaborn said:
And don't start this BS either. Just because you couldn't prove your point doesn't mean conservatives aren't allowed here.
Your knack for changing the circumstances of the debate is confounding.Gaborn said:
This line of discussion started back several pages when you complained about the amount of positive Obama coverage, in and of itself along with compared to other candidates. Then you said that the "ideal" was "50-50" of positive/negative coverage. You've yet to explain what kind of byzantine logic justifies the media proactively hunting for positive or negative stories to fulfill an arbitrary 'balance'. Nothing involved in that process would be inherently related to lacking bias or 'objectivity'.
At the heart of this discussion is your utterly distorted view on the media and its responsibilities.
I'm a little late to the discussion but... Gaborn, The Rev Wright story being 10% of Obama's media coverage is an absolutely huge #. Think about all the other stuff they could be talking about. Also, Rev Wright was on my TV for a lot longer than 2 weeks.
Besides, its not always a question of quantity but of substance. That shit that FOX was spewing with the voice-overs and graphics and "YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT HE DONE SAID NOW" sensationalism easily makes the story bigger than the numbers. CNN was even showing Wrights "different does not mean deficient" in its entirety for like 2 nights in a row on a fucking loop.
As was pointed out previously as well the media tended to go after the front runner at every opportunity. The motivations for that are simple and well understood.
If they're was some 'positive Obama coverage' conspiracy maybe they'd spend some time actually advertising his policies and perhaps reminding people he isn't Muslim. Maybe FOX would display his initials as BO not BHO.
Besides, its not always a question of quantity but of substance. That shit that FOX was spewing with the voice-overs and graphics and "YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT HE DONE SAID NOW" sensationalism easily makes the story bigger than the numbers. CNN was even showing Wrights "different does not mean deficient" in its entirety for like 2 nights in a row on a fucking loop.
As was pointed out previously as well the media tended to go after the front runner at every opportunity. The motivations for that are simple and well understood.
If they're was some 'positive Obama coverage' conspiracy maybe they'd spend some time actually advertising his policies and perhaps reminding people he isn't Muslim. Maybe FOX would display his initials as BO not BHO.
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Barack Hope ObamaStinkles said:
electricpirate
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Supposedly a Brooklyn Craft brewer has a an Obama "Hop" ale. I must find this!
slidewinder
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Sounds pretty good.electricpirate said:
mckmas8808
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Killthee said:
Wow!
I just want to throw this out there. As someone who once helped managed a bond fund and met with financial analysts regularly and considered himself a true fiscal conservative.
the market IS more efficient than government. The free market is more efficient at turning a profit... I quit that job and became a compliance officer when I saw how corrupt that whole process was.
the market IS more efficient than government. The free market is more efficient at turning a profit... I quit that job and became a compliance officer when I saw how corrupt that whole process was.
polyh3dron
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Gaborn said:
grandjedi6
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I wonder if Colbert has permanently doomed Bob Barr, and by extension the Libertarian party, with that comparison of his
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Odrion said:
If she is going to campaign on Obama's behalf, she will be an asset.
Deus Ex Machina
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she's needed to calm some of her supporters down.Agent Icebeezy said:
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Until there's a VP she will continue be the focus of media attention.Odrion said:
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