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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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icarus-daedelus said:
must not be much food there, since everything will be off the table
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mckmas8808
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FitzOfRage said:
Yeah he stated that 2004 has shown that a 4 point lead gives either Obama or McCain and win. And that 6 points is a comfortable lead.
I'm glad someone on TV said this. Too bad he was on in the beginning and Chris Matthews didn't give a shit about that stat.
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I saw that. I thought you were doing pretty good on your own. (I know nothing of the subject myself.)StoOgE said:
If all else fails, post pictures.
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StoOgE said:
Ask them about the lovely time of volatile banks and economic system at the end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th that they love so much. Can you imagine if the shit happening right now to banks was happening in the 1890s?
Well, oof, I had my encounter with one of those people tonight.
No, not black people.
The ones on the other side of the political spectrum that don't like Bush, but believe Obama will be assassinated, won't be elected, don't think he has any religious affiliation, think Michelle is a bad person, think he's a flip-flopper, brought up his middle name Hussein, and then demeaned me because I'm only 21 and "don't know what I'm talking about."
Yeah, thanks chap.
I tried my best, but you know what happens when you talk to a wall.
No, not black people.
The ones on the other side of the political spectrum that don't like Bush, but believe Obama will be assassinated, won't be elected, don't think he has any religious affiliation, think Michelle is a bad person, think he's a flip-flopper, brought up his middle name Hussein, and then demeaned me because I'm only 21 and "don't know what I'm talking about."
Yeah, thanks chap.
I tried my best, but you know what happens when you talk to a wall.
Game-related, but I doubt anyone on the gaming side would care, but have you guys tried this game?
http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/info/
It's actually kind of fun once you take the time to figure it out. Political Machine 2008 is kind of fun, also. It's a lot easier to get into than this. For some reason I got in the mood to play some political games, and this is what I wanted.
http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/info/
It's actually kind of fun once you take the time to figure it out. Political Machine 2008 is kind of fun, also. It's a lot easier to get into than this. For some reason I got in the mood to play some political games, and this is what I wanted.
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Tamanon said:BTW, for those who were really worried about Obama's fundraising....he raisesd 52 million dollars in June, not 30 million as the WSJ said.
Just got that email. Nicely done!
maximum360
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Good news. I hope he can sustain those numbers through November. With the RNC, other groups affiliated with the GOP, and the McCain camp working the loopholes, Obama has his work cut out for him. The RNC is absolutely spanking the DNC when it comes to fundraising as well.
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how is that even a story?? fuck, who thought she would go to the middle east...and who gives a shit?syllogism said:
man even drudge horribly fails sometimes
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Obama is opening 20 offices in Virginia in July. McCain will open his 5th by the endof the month.
So what does this tell you GAF?
So what does this tell you GAF?
Frank the Great
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The Lamonster said:
While Drudge seemed to be very anti-Hillary and pro-Obama during the primary season, people forgot that he is actually a conservative.
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Brian Williams(NBC) Katie Couric (CBS) and Charles Gibson (ABC) are all joining Obama on his overseas trip around the world.
They will be giving interviews with him on back to back days. Talk about media coverage! This trip could be huge!
They will be giving interviews with him on back to back days. Talk about media coverage! This trip could be huge!
The Lamonster
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same thing it tells me when Obama only visits IL when he's offmckmas8808 said:
and McCain just spent two whole days campaigning in AZ
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mckmas8808 said:
Good. This sounds fucking nice.
PhoenixDark
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First Read says Obama raised $52 million in June, compared to McCain's $22 (which was his best month). If things continue like this Obama will reach the $250 million max, while McCain will have a total of $140 million (when you count the $84 million he'll get from public financing)
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/17/1203669.aspx
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/17/1203669.aspx
mckmas8808 said:
PD: the fundraising difference between McCain and Obama is offset by the amount the parties took in.
also, i'm a bit ambivalent about all this attention fostered on Obama's trip. yeah, it's his first and deserves mention, but this has the potential to amplify every gaffe, every slight misstatement into something big.
also, i'm a bit ambivalent about all this attention fostered on Obama's trip. yeah, it's his first and deserves mention, but this has the potential to amplify every gaffe, every slight misstatement into something big.
The Librarian
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It's called Warp Drive, not hyperspace.Macam said:
Frank the Great
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Does this mean the RNC is funneling less money towards Senate and Congressional races?
You'd think they realize the presidency was a lost cause and at least try to protect some important seats.
You'd think they realize the presidency was a lost cause and at least try to protect some important seats.
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Frank the Great said:
No, I suspect lots of negative campaign ads, and try to squeeze through that way. I doubt it'll work.
Its somewhat already too late for the RNC to get the seats they're going to lose anyway. CO, VA, NM, NH aren't going to shift back to red. Dems are getting +4 seats for sure and possibly +5.
To be honest with you, I don't know what people see in Smith in OR. Then Again, I don't think anyone is in love with Merkley either.
RNC is going to have make a choice: mitigate any huge losses in the House and Senate by throwing $$$ into contests or doubling down on the presidency. For Republicans, their money machine this year is really only the RNC since both the RSCC and RCCC have been MIA. Not to mention the fact that the RCCC is still trying to sort it self out over having millions of dollars stolen from a former employee.
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scorcho said:
That still doesn't make it even. Thr RNC can't give McCain 80% of the money that they raise. If they do where do the congress men and women and senators running for office get their money from?
And there's limitations to what McCain can do with the RNC money. And the DNC almost matched the RNC in fund raising in June.
So Obama still has the edge.
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Incognito said:
I think that the RNC ignore the congressional races as long as the Presidency is remotely competitive. This is assuming, of course, that leadership Republicans in the House and especially the Senate don't get deeper in trouble-if McConnell's or Dole's numbers continue to tank, the RNC will send them a lifeline.
But spending money to save 10-12 House seats? Unlikely. And the donors/DNC don't really mind seeing GOP Senate "moderates" like Gordon Smith, John Sununu, and Susan Collins lose if those races deteriorate.
yep, the RNC can't do a darn thing with that money for McCain.
the RNC would be stupid to push so much money into House races considering general shift in the electorate this cycle.
the RNC would be stupid to push so much money into House races considering general shift in the electorate this cycle.
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Incognito said:
And guys remember that the RNC already lost a few seats within the last couple months in some of the most republican seats in the country. And that was WITH them spending huge amounts of money.
So if they decide to not spend money on the house and senate seats this november they will get crushed. Especially in the more light red and purple states and regions.
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scorcho said:
I said theres limits to what the RNC can do for McCain. Advertising wise McCain and the RNC is already outspending Obama 3 to 1 right now. And he is still 6 points down.
Obama loves working out and playing basketball. I really don't agree with him much but I think he's a good person and he plays basketball. He's got my vote.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/obama-hits-the.html
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/obama-hits-the.html
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Incognito said:
maneuver warfare at its finest. obama's campaign's strategy of spreading out the map in a large number of places isn't just important for gaining electoral votes, but also for creating enough chaos in the McCain's insular circle of trusted advisors that their overall capacity to conduct a planned poltiical campaign is hindered. This obviously has huge benefits on higher EV value and more competitve states as well.
I'm no Obama fan, but his staff is really ace and knows what they are doing.
Given the ever-increasing power of the presidency, it's almost better to lose some Senate and House seats and make a credible run at the Presidency rather than forego the Presidency and keep the seats for sure. This is especially true if there is no way that the majority party in either chamber will change (and that party will not change this cycle in either chamber).
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Fragamemnon said:
I understand that,but there just has to be a line drawn. Where will the RNC draw the line? 50%, 70%, 85% etc of their money going to McCain?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/a...l?_r=2&ref=television&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
GAF should be happy, MSNBC President saying that the time is coming soon for Rachel Maddow to get her own show.
GAF should be happy, MSNBC President saying that the time is coming soon for Rachel Maddow to get her own show.
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Tamanon said:
Woohoo! Love me some Rachel.
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