The Librarian
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I am glad to see that you are putting your entertainment first over what is best for America. You're the epitome of what it means to be a good human being.Skiptastic said:
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PoliGAF Interim Thread of USA General Elections (DAWN OF THE VEEP)
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adamsappel
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Hey, I love Constructivism!reilo said:
Skiptastic
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Dax01 said:
Read my previous post. I think America's fucked no matter who gets in. If someone from the future showed me a chart saying "America would be 10% less fucked if Obama won" then I'd vote for the guy. Since I don't see much of a difference, why not hope for a more entertaining outcome?
You all are getting worked up for nothing anyways. I'm not voting, I pay my taxes, and I am not actively campaigning for or against anyone. Why can't I have a glimmer of hope for an entertaining election? I'm not going to stop Obama from winning, and if he does and raises those taxes, I'll just pay them and move along. Jeepers, you all get so worked up over nothing.
The Librarian
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I am now extremely glad to see that you put your entertainment first and what is best for America second.Skiptastic said:
PhoenixDark
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Skiptastic said:
While the bitching/moaning/crying/etc would serve as entertainment on GAF for a couple days the end result would suck. People act like Obama is a sure bet to win this...I love seeing people humbled but not at the detriment of the country/world
Skiptastic
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GhaleonEB said:No reason to even go there.
Finally, someone gets it.
Hope things work out for you guys.
The Librarian
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What's he done?reilo said:
Tyrone Slothrop
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Skiptastic said:
who's president makes a HUGE difference. you think we'd be in this shithole now if gore or any other competent president got elected in 2000?
The Librarian
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Ouch.Tamanon said:
reilo said:
No video yet, but this is one I'd like to see.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/30/1234935.aspx
And then Obama chimes in:
Zing.
GhaleonEB said:
There won't be a video as Axelrod called in over the phone for those comments.
Obama also said this:
"You've all seen these ads, you know, the one where I am touted as some tax and spend liberal that will waste all of your money on pork barrel projects. Each election, it's like the same ads from them, just the candidate's name is replaced."
Why is McCain not being called out on all these new ads? I remember doing the primaries he promised to run a clean campaign. He even made some early gestures that led me to believe he would really be a honorable candidate.
But he has now rushed towards the mud and the slime. Every new negative ad he runs gets tons of free airtime on all the networks. I bet this new ad will be played dozens of times tonight on all the major networks, who can't seem to sense they are being played by the McCain campaign. Most of Obama's responses are less directly negative, and thus don't get nearly the air time.
What is worse is the discussion of these ads seems to revolve around rather McCain has discovered some new weakness in Obama's candidacy. Why not talk about how these ads completely undermine the maverick, bipartisan, and above-the-fray politician that McCain has been trying to portray himself as. If this is what McCain is dragging out in July, how will anyone be able to stand him in October?
But he has now rushed towards the mud and the slime. Every new negative ad he runs gets tons of free airtime on all the networks. I bet this new ad will be played dozens of times tonight on all the major networks, who can't seem to sense they are being played by the McCain campaign. Most of Obama's responses are less directly negative, and thus don't get nearly the air time.
What is worse is the discussion of these ads seems to revolve around rather McCain has discovered some new weakness in Obama's candidacy. Why not talk about how these ads completely undermine the maverick, bipartisan, and above-the-fray politician that McCain has been trying to portray himself as. If this is what McCain is dragging out in July, how will anyone be able to stand him in October?
eh? In 2004 there was no exit polling leaks till around 7 PM, we had no clue what was going on at all till then. I watched the new all day that day. It was just talking heads like Chris Matthews blabbering nonsense about how great it is in America how we get to vote and what the various candidates are doing with their families to relax and wait. It is just fluff till the evening. Honestly we don't have a clue what is happening officially on election day till like 10 PM due to poll closing, the media does not want to give information while people are still voting.Dax01 said:
reilo said:
The weren't anarchists if they were in support of a liberal. They weren't backing old Ivy League Skull and Bones Kerry, were they?
KRS7 said:
Because he's realizing his stances on major issues like court appointments and illegal immigration aren't buying him enough love with left-leaning moderates to offset alienating core Replublican voters.
The core Republican voters aren't happy with McCain. His only hope at this point is to go for the people who don't want Obama in office at any cost.
Xisiqomelir
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reilo said:
Pelosi is a total letdown. She's in the Kerry style of "they'll accuse me of being TEH LIBRUL, so I'd better tread carefully".
bob_arctor
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Some random group responds to the Britney/Obama ad with a clip of Britney/McCain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPEV...om/2008/07/group_responds_to_mccain_ad_br.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPEV...om/2008/07/group_responds_to_mccain_ad_br.php
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This woman they put on MSNBC talking about McCain is fucking insane.
Guybrush Threepwood
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I don't know if I hate George W. Bush or Nancy Pelosi more.
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Tamanon said:
She never answers the question, she is a walking McCain advertisement. Surprisingly, she has more good to say about McCain than McCain does himself.
CNN Poll
Obama 51%
McCain 44%
In terms of the trip:
65% thought it was an appropriate trip
33% thought is was not
Obama leads McCain on ALL Domestic issues (economy, gas prices, energy, etc) while Mccain leads on ALL Foreign issues (Iraq, Terrorism, etc).
In terms of who is arrogant:
Obama 37%, McCain 34 (not much different)%
Obama 51%
McCain 44%
In terms of the trip:
65% thought it was an appropriate trip
33% thought is was not
Obama leads McCain on ALL Domestic issues (economy, gas prices, energy, etc) while Mccain leads on ALL Foreign issues (Iraq, Terrorism, etc).
In terms of who is arrogant:
Obama 37%, McCain 34 (not much different)%
Nazgul_Hunter
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Tamanon said:
Bu... bu... the media told me Obama can't cross the 50% mark! Also, he's the presumptuous nominee!
WickedAngel
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Door2Dawn said:
I can understand the sarcasm but it's a bit disturbing that McCain leads on foreign policy (Of all things). 100 years in Iraq? No timetables? I can frolic through the streets of Baghdad without armor/protection? Maybe timetables weren't such a bad idea. I misspoke; Baghdad is still dangerous. 16 month timetable sounds good.
That's just his random and rapidly changing stances on Iraq.
Steve Youngblood
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It's about time somebody said it. Obama's never been challenged on anything ever! Every TV show I watch is just pundit after pundit debating which one of them loves Obama more.reilo said:
bob_arctor
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Door2Dawn said:
We dont know much, but his senior thesis paper was on the efforts to stop nuclear proliferation between the US and Soviets. And *surprise* what is one of his pet projects? loose nukes.
I mean, its undergrad work, universities dont keep that kind of stuff.
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