mckmas8808
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PhoenixDark said:
And do you think some in the media should say that McCain is flip-flopping? And that the straight talk express is no more?
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And do you think some in the media should say that McCain is flip-flopping? And that the straight talk express is no more?
Nazgul_Hunter
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PhoenixDark said:
At the pace McCain's going, I wouldn't be surprised if come election day, Obama is being portrayed as the antichrist running for world domination and persecution of chrstianity
PhoenixDark
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mckmas8808 said:
Probably because the chanting scares some older people. With respect to Paris and Spears the McCain camp is still insinuating that Obama has no substance (or talent) and is more suited for magazine covers than rollin-up-yer-sleeves-and-saying-no leadership.
The Librarian
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You know, instead of drilling off-shore, why don't we just drill where we are allowed to? I heard Nancy Pelosi on the Daily Show say we got (I think) a couple million acres up in Alaska.scorcho said:
Obama's speechmaking proves he must have no substance, his popularity proves that his supporters are faddists, and his overseas trip proves that he might get back together with K-Fed or something.
The only thing I'm looking forward to from McCain's campaign is Romney as VP, which might as well be Dole-Kemp II in the annals of intra-ticket hatred.
The only thing I'm looking forward to from McCain's campaign is Romney as VP, which might as well be Dole-Kemp II in the annals of intra-ticket hatred.
Justin Bailey
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People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy and he can't do that as Barack Obama. As a man he's flesh and blood, he can be ignored, he can be destroyed, but as a symbol, as a symbol he can be incorruptible, he can be everlasting.Door2Dawn said:
Learn2read
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I almost think at this point that a Romney VP ticket could help McCain. Romney would end up being such a consistent tool that it'd distract from McCain's all too frequent gaffes/lapses, but people don't really care who's VP so it'd be a win for him.
mckmas8808
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Mandark said:
You know your country is headed in thw wrong direction when people start hating on the fact that other countries might like us.
Why is this starting to become a negative?
adamsappel
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Nuremburg.mckmas8808 said:
[That] he's as vapid as they are.
bob_arctor
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Mandark said:
The mentions of totalitarianism and Hitler re: the crowds he pulled and the language in his Germany speech really floored me.
bob_arctor said:
Roy Edroso is all over this. Am I pimping his blog every third post right now or does it just feel like that?
And here's a fun post at CT about how Obama's German poster would have been banned by the Nazis. International politics, history, and fonts. What more could you want?
Mandark said:
Having been drilled with this bullshit in my history of material culture classes, that Obama poster is a big homage to Bauhaus style of design. Walter Gropius would have been proud.
If his poster looked like something out of Russian Constructivism, then we'd have a problem!
An example of Nazi Propaganda posters:
The Librarian
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A mud wrestling match between Obama and McCain.Mandark said:
maximum360
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Evlar said:
We've barely scratched the surface of how nasty things will be this fall.
Obama actually does well in town halls and even got a few standing ovations at this event in Missouri. If he keeps doing what he's doing there and the debates go well, it will be hard for McCain to keep up in the debates this fall. It's hard for him to keep up when reporters finally get off the 'Maverick' bandwagon and actually ask him a policy question.
When watching this election and reading other political forums I think when the election is over America might be more divided than after last elections..
Meaning GAF seems to be pretty mellow place when talking about these candidates but other places people seem to be quite frankly very hateful and very scary..
Meaning GAF seems to be pretty mellow place when talking about these candidates but other places people seem to be quite frankly very hateful and very scary..
WickedAngel
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ana said:
Things can change quickly, depending on who is posting.
AndresON777
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Nazgul_Hunter said:
It'll happen before then unfortunately.
ana said:
As bad as some posters here are, on other forums, these are the words I see quite a lot from people:
Socialist
Communist
Muslim
HUSSEIN
Elitist
Unexperienced
Bad Foreign Policy [Eventhough every nation in the world agrees with his fp stances??]
What irks me the most is the moniker that McCain would be better at foreign policy. Being like Bush in approach to foreign policy is a good thing? It's like these people are just not paying any damn attention.
mckmas8808
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how is Obama doing in the town hall today?
The Librarian
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I really hope Obama announces his VP this week.
reilo said:
What annoys me is the seeming conflation in the media between the public's belief that a candidate would be good on an issue and the strength of that candidate's positions.
I cannot count how many times I've heard that "foreign policy is one of John McCain's strengths," when it is clear that it is a strength only insofar as the public believes that he is "experienced" on that issue; it is not a strength at all when you look at his ability to be even somewhat conversant on the subject.
If they would state that he's very weak on foreign policy when it comes to his ability to get basic facts straight, but it is a strength from the perspective of how the electorate views the candidates, then maybe it would make more sense. As it is, it's maddening.
The Librarian
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What'd he say?reilo said:
Dax01 said:
Basically debunked the entire "off-shore" drilling crap, and said that if this administration and government had followed Obama's plan for energy independence years ago, we wouldn't be in this mess right now. Plus just more Axelrod ass-kickery.
bob_arctor
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ana said:
Only if McCain wins. If Obama wins, a slice of weirdos will be really pissed, maybe to the point of going on shooting sprees or some shit, but their numbers aren't that many. Maybe 30% of the population.
Mandark said:
That about sums up my feelings too. I'm not one for caring about vice presidential picks, but if McCain doesn't pick Romney I'll be half-surprised. I say half because while Romney is the logical match to McCain's bumbling nature and economic apathy, given the way his campaign has been run, he may just try to outdo himself and worsen his odds even further.
The Librarian
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:lolyoopoo said:
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maximum360 said:
this is exactly how i feel. at first i thought it was just the media trying to make things seem even.. but the vigor behind some of these reporters seems to imply that some deeper seeded emotions are at play here. :.(
soul creator
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reilo said:Having been drilled with this bullshit in my history of material culture classes, that Obama poster is a big homage to Bauhaus style of design. Walter Gropius would have been proud.
If his poster looked like something out of Russian Constructivism, then we'd have a problem!
so that's where they got this from?
Skiptastic
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bob_arctor said:
And that is different from McCain winning...how?
i looked past a few pages and did not see it yet.
its on the front page of drudge right now- the new McCain add featuring Britney Spears, Paris Hilton and.... Obama.
its on the front page of drudge right now- the new McCain add featuring Britney Spears, Paris Hilton and.... Obama.
bob_arctor
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Skiptastic said:
Just a feeling that there's much more of a desire to see a Democrat in the WH. In 2004, when Bush won re-election, I'd wager that there were more people completely devastated by the outcome then there were people pleased. Considering the epic fail that's followed ever since, that number has either grown, or has finally gotten to the point I'm guessing at. Another Republican running the show is a recipe for disenfranchisement the likes of which hasn't been seen since Mephisto's "deal" with Spiderman.
bob_arctor said:
I remember back in 04 on November 5th when I was in high school. I was in German class, and out of the 20 people in there, only one guy was a Bush supporter - but we were all cool with him, although he was a bit of a weirdo.
We were a pretty tight-nit group and all had similar world views along with the teacher, so we spent the entire class discussing what the hell just happened instead of doing any actual studies.
Ludcris makes rap sound slamming McCain & Bush and touts Obama as the MAN.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52f_1217434061&p=1
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52f_1217434061&p=1
Skiptastic
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bob_arctor said:
I think there may be more fervor on the Democratic side this time around that isn't there on the Republican side. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you that there will be probably more people greatly disappointed, I just wanted to hear why you thought that would be any different if McCain won. But I think you might be putting the percentage of people who "really care greatly" about who wins or loses way too high. I mean, to say 30% of people would really give a damn when only 50% (at most) of people even bother to vote? I don't think that it's that big of a deal to most people. I think they will mutter and maybe bitch a bit, but shooting sprees? Nah.
I'm hoping McCain wins, just because I think it would be much more enjoyable to hear discussions on "what went wrong", "why America did this", etc. I really don't think my life is going to change greatly in one respect or the other, so I'm internally rooting for the most entertaining outcome. Hopefully, no matter who wins, it's an entertaining experience. Right now, it kinda sucks ass. It's all just blogs and roundtables about stupid shit. Hopefully steam picks up after the conventions. Maybe I just need to find the right two or three people who actually like debating civilly about the issues, not "Obama went to Europe OMG" or "McCain put out an advertisement OH SNAP" That shit bores me.
The Librarian
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I hope my High School has it's TVs turned on to some news channel during Election Day so we know what's going on.reilo said:
They did when I was in Middle School.
Skiptastic said:
You have to be out of your fucking mind.
Just because everything is great and dandy for you, there are people out there that are suffering and having a hard time directly due to many of this administration's policies. McCain is going to just keep things the same or make them worse.
For you to hope for the most entertaining outcome? What the hell would be entertaining about a great hardship for the populace?
The Librarian
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:/ How was the last election different then?Cheebs said:
SouthernDragon
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Glad to read that all this is mere entertainment for you, and that the suffering of millions of others doesn't really matter because, well, it doesn't affect you.
Christ.
Skiptastic
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reilo said:
When you ask me to choose between getting punched in the face or kicked in the nuts, I try to imagine what would be most entertaining. I'd choose getting punched in the face, because the blood streaming down from my nose would at least look cool.
In my opinion, neither candidate is going to make my life better, and in fact, in their own way, is going to fuck up the country. So, in the choice between a rock and a hard place, I think of what will at least be entertaining. I think McCain winning would be more entertaining.
But seeing as how I'm not really invested in either way, if Obama winning is really going to make you happy, then it's cool with me if he wins.
FlightOfHeaven said:
Again, glad to know you think Obama is somehow going to miraculously save millions of people. Hope he wins for you guys. I don't have such a rosy opinion of the guy or his policies.
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