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PoliGAF Thread of THE END and FIST POUNDS (NYT: Hillary drop out/endorse Saturday)

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Justin Bailey

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artredis1980 said:
4% is the percentage of black republicans like Condolica Rice and the crazy dude who wrote Crazy Black Man
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That, and non-black people that just felt like fucking with the survey. It's why no survey is ever 100%
 
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snacknuts

we all knew her
Smiles and Cries said:
Holy shit McCaine has 4% of the black vote at this historic moment is huge rite? Who are those people?
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TheKingsCrown

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Mercury Fred said:
Something like 20-25% of gay people voted for Bush in 2004. It boggles the mind.
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Not if you look at the psychology of gays and realize that the majority want to somehow appear straight. Being conservative is nearly akin to appear straight.
 
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Tamanon

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TheKingsCrown said:
Not if you look at the psychology of gays and realize that the majority want to somehow appear straight. Being conservative is nearly akin to appear straight.
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But being Republican isn't anymore!
 
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Mercury Fred

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Tamanon said:
Hey the brown shirt guy behind Hillary said he is voting for McCain!
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True story: I was sleeping with this guy who was a hardcore Clinton supporter/ organizer. When he told me that if Obama gets the nod, he'd vote McCain, I told him, no more sex for him :lol He sends me emails and I send him a quick political quiz back.
 
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Smiles and Cries

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Mercury Fred said:
Something like 20-25% of gay people voted for Bush in 2004. It boggles the mind.
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that is pretty much voting against who you are, same as the 4% there might not be another black nom for another 50 years but somehow these saints are above the color race issue thing so they vote McCaine

McCaine will get gay votes too
 
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Tamanon

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Smiles and Cries said:
that is pretty much voting against who you are, same as the 4% there might not be another black nom for another 50 years but somehow these saints are above the color race issue thing so they vote McCaine

McCaine will get gay votes too
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Eh the 4% I can understand because the Republicans don't have blatant anti-black values.
 
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Cheebs

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Sharp said:
Is Strickland endorsing Obama old? 'Cause he just did I think.
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The ENTIRE New York congressional delegation endorsed Obama so I think at this point every super delegate is for Obama now more or less.
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Also, the feminist thing is not likely even to matter--Obama could very easily arrange to have the entire Florida and Michigan delegations seated if he so chose to. Even ignoring Hillary's upcoming concession, he has enough delegates to more than win even with them given full voting strength.
 
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kkaabboomm

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Sharp said:
Is Strickland endorsing Obama old? 'Cause he just did I think.
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Subject: STATEMENT: Governor Strickland Endorses Barack Obama

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 5, 2008

Governor Ted Strickland issued the following statement this afternoon:

"Today, I announce my wholehearted and enthusiastic support for Barack Obama for President of the United States.

Earlier today I talked with Sen. Hillary Clinton. I thanked her for her friendship and the strong effort she put forth in this historic campaign. I pledged to work with her to unify the party and to make sure that Barack Obama wins the presidency.

Ohioans have suffered as a result of the failed policies of the Bush Administration, including job loss as a result of rising fuel prices. Ohioans desperately want real, meaningful change. And I believe Barack Obama will bring that change."

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to answer your question, yes. most of her supers are waiting for her to suspend/etc on saturday before switching to Obama. a few, like the new york delegation that just announced, and gov strickland, are moving a bit early.
overall, yeah, most, if not all supers, will be endorsing/voting for Obama at the convention, as a show of unity.
 
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sangreal

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A lot of blacks are very socially conservative it shouldn't be very surprising that some support Republicans over Obama. If Republicans weren't running on a platform of abandoning the lower class, there would probably be more.

One of my friends who is much more ingrained in the black community than me -- goes to a black church, NAACP meetings, etc -- was a pretty hardcore Huckabee fan
 
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Keylime

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artredis1980 said:
HOly shit!! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZaTgNMyw_0&
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The McCain campaign has no fucking clue how to use the internet, do they? :lol

This campaign manager probably saw McCain's speech on Tuesday and was tearing up at the raw emotion being displayed for the American public.
 
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HylianTom

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Dahellisdat said:
:lol :lol :lol Larry Craig
Yeah, judging by past evidence I think 20-25% of republican congressmen probably are secretly gay.
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If I were closeted and wanted to hide, the Republican Party would be my first place of refuge..
 
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now I'll never know the final delegate count before all these clinton turncoats why must they switch over? to me they still belong to the other party
 
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Steve Youngblood

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Stumpokapow said:
Also, the feminist thing is not likely even to matter--Obama could very easily arrange to have the entire Florida and Michigan delegations seated if he so chose to. Even ignoring Hillary's upcoming concession, he has enough delegates to more than win even with them given full voting strength.
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Well, that really isn't an issue anymore. The "Hillary was robbed" crowd knows now that it isn't going to make a difference, and probably wasn't going to make a difference anyway regardless of how the RBC committee decided Saturday. So, him seating the full delegations now isn't going to suddenly make that bitterness go away. As silly as it seems right now, I think the conspiracy theories behind how important Michigan and Florida were to Hillary supporters stem from their belief that silencing those votes was just one of many moves amongst the powers that be to ensure her defeat. They should have been counted when they occurred -- not doing so really hurt her momentum.

Regardless, one of three things will happen. Hillary will genuinely campaign for Obama and her fans will begrudgingly follow suit. Another possibility is that they'll realize just how idiotic it is to aid the other party out of petty revenge when the guy they hate rightfully earned the nomination and his policies similar to their own candidate, unlike McCain. Finally, they actually could follow suit, deliver the election to McCain, and then ironically complain to deaf ears about how the Democrats, and not they themselves, have sent this nation down the wrong path by not nominating Hillary -- which will do nothing to help her ever become president.
 
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FLEABttn

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Smiles and Cries said:
now I'll never know the final delegate count before all these clinton turncoats why must they switch over? to me they still belong to the other party
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They're switching over to unify the party and because additional delegates for Clinton does nothing at best, and divides the party at worst.

How do they belong to the other party?
 
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grandjedi6

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Smiles and Cries said:
that is pretty much voting against who you are, same as the 4% there might not be another black nom for another 50 years but somehow these saints are above the color race issue thing so they vote McCaine

McCaine will get gay votes too
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Do you understand statistics? You'll never have 100% of anything
 
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Smiles and Cries

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FLEABttn said:
They're switching over to unify the party and because additional delegates for Clinton does nothing at best, and divides the party at worst.

How do they belong to the other party?
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Its not like they suddenly hate Clinton just because she lost why can't they Unify the party without stripping her of her delegates show some honor in the support you gave... the party can come together without this cheesy fake way of showing unity
 
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Deus Ex Machina

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sangreal said:
Change I can believe in
Beginning Thursday, the DNC will no longer accept checks from federal lobbyists or political action committees, mirroring the strict standard Obama adopted for his presidential campaign.

“This is an important step that shows Sen. Obama is willing to take tough steps to change the way Washington works,” said Dan Pfeiffer, the campaign’s deputy communications director.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10871.html
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Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTdu6OgXHJY
 
Smiles and Cries

Smiles and Cries

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grandjedi6 said:
Do you understand statistics? You'll never have 100% of anything
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just because I understand it does not mean I have to stay 100% quiet about my questioning it... see just 6% of me is questioning this... the rest of me understand the stats but I just can't get that 100% agree rate
 
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FLEABttn

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Smiles and Cries said:
Its not like they suddenly hate Clinton just because she lost why can't they Unify the party without stripping her of her delegates show some honor in the support you gave... the party can come together without this cheesy fake way of showing unity
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Even if you think it's cheesy and fake, it still doesn't look good for them. It'll get spun and used against Obama if you have delegates out there making a stink over Clinton.
 
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sangreal

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So would it be wrong to think that Obama owes a huge debt to Kerry for choosing him to speak at the 2004 convention?

(Not to mention his endorsement, of course)
 
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typhonsentra

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sangreal said:
So would it be wrong to think that Obama owes a huge debt to Kerry for choosing him to speak at the 2004 convention?

(Not to mention his endorsement, of course)
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It's obvious to everyone he does. Kerry's likely to be offered a prominent role in his administration.
 
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Deus Ex Machina

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Geraldine Ferraro wants Obama to pay Clinton’s debt

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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/ferraro-wants-obama-to-pay-clintons-debt-2008-06-05.html
Geraldine Ferraro has a plan for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) to recoup her sizable campaign debt: Have Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) fundraisers pick up the tab.
After a long primary season, the Clinton campaign’s expenditures have far exceeded the amount of donations it has received so far, and the campaign has accumulated debt of more than $19 million, according to campaign finance reports. Much of that debt consists of unpaid salaries and bills to vendors.


When questioned about Clinton fundraisers being asked to join the Obama campaign, Ferraro told The Hill, “These are the people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars. I would hope that would do the same thing with his fundraisers to pay off Hillary’s debt.”

Ferraro, a former Democratic congresswoman from New York and the Democrats’ 1984 vice presidential candidate, strongly supported Clinton and raised funds for her.

This election, losing candidates have asked for contributions to retire their campaigns debt. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Gov. Bill Richardson (D-N.M.), and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) are engaged in such campaigns and have found help from other candidates.

Ferraro resigned from her position on Clinton’s national finance committee in March after making comments suggesting Obama’s success is due to his being black.

Ferraro said she has not been asked to raise funds for the Obama campaign.
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JoshuaJSlone

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Love To Love You Baby said:
LOL. So 20% constitutes as the "majority"?
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Not that I know where one would get decent stats on how many gays want to appear straight, but he didn't say being Republican was the only way to accomplish such a goal.
 
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grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Smiles and Cries said:
just because I understand it does not mean I have to stay 100% quiet about my questioning it... see just 6% of me is questioning this... the rest of me understand the stats but I just can't get that 100% agree rate
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I can't decide whether to smack you or praise you for your logic. Thus I will do both:

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Tamanon

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YOUR MONEY CANNOT GO TO CLINTON

All he can do is ask people to donate to her.

And LOL at Ferraro not being asked to join the Obama campaign, that's a shocker.
 
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