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Presidential Debate #2 |Washington University| Grab me right in the Ken Bone
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The republican on sky isn't doing much better...
This is pretty much what MSNBC is doing right now, too.
BoosterDuck
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Outrun
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I prefer Blue Steel myself.
MassiveNights
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Maybe wait for the polls to shake out buddy
DontBeThatGuy
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Pivoting? First off, there's sources out there saying Pence wants out, and you're wondering why what Trump said regarding him is a big deal? Really?
Secondly, are you voting for Trump?
orthodoxy1095
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Even if he were dropping, I assume he'd probably maintain pretense until he can craft an exit strategy to deal with the Trumpster mobs.
So it's Pence being spineless as ever. Sad.
SchrodingerC
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There's no way anyone can classify Trump 'winning' this debate. He barely answered any of the questions and acted like a child for majority of the debate. Clinton on the other hand was the complete opposite of Trump, in that she actually put effort in this debate and answered the damn questions.
Diprosalic
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Yeah we can squash that rumour.
That's where you're wrong. And that's what's so sad about this entire affair.
That's not a conspiracy theory, that's how it is. The Democratic and Republican party both make it incredibly difficult for 3rd party candidates to participate in debates.
The only person Gary Johnson knows how to make look like a clown is himself, though. Need I post 'the gif'?
Rabbi_Vole
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Just think, if Trump didn't win the GOP nom, we would have never been exposed to Kenneth Bone. In a way, Trump has already made American great again.
Yes, let's make fun of people based on their looks. I'm sure that's what they were chosen on.
Trump threatened to jail her multiple times and his military policy is "I don't know... military them while they're not looking". He came off like a complete buffoon and managed to neuter Mike Pence while doing it. At every level there was almost no substance and what substance that was there was horrifying. This was a disaster for him on any level I can think of other than seeming confidant and speaking loudly, which I'll admit has a way of appealing to some people.
LMFAO
TheLaughingStock
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It was wash. Hillary got him good on the question about protecting Muslims and deflecting from her failures in foreign policy and the Democrats as a whole broader failures in the inner cities by outlining other achievements within her record.
However, Trump got her good on how the tax code benefits her donors and he didn't see a an effective counter punch from her bringing up Bill Clinton.
However, Trump got her good on how the tax code benefits her donors and he didn't see a an effective counter punch from her bringing up Bill Clinton.
Well that's great then.
Yeah it's obvious the bar is lowered for him. "Well, he didn't come out covered in shit, pissing on the podium and yelling obscenities, so maybe it was a draw."
Tal Shiar Agent
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I wasn't able to watch. Can someone summarize for me?
EatinOlives
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That doesn't really address the issue that he's running for president. It's one thing to take advantage, it's another entirely to do it then turn around and say you're a man of the people.
Come on, that's not cool to make fun of others like that.
ON topic - Trump won the debate, hands down!
So who won? I called the first one 66-33 for Hillary. I called the VP debate 51-49 for Pence.
This one? I dunno. There were huge expectations for Hillary and low expectations for Trump. And I don't think Hillary met the expectations and Trump did a much better job than I thought he would -- and a lot of that had to do with the questions (emails, the Affordable Car Act, etc.)
The first part of the debate was an absolute clusterfuck for Trump, and he would have lost handily if it was based on that. But like the CNN folks were saying, it seemed like Trump "stopped the bleeding." And that is almost a win in itself.
Another thing I want to note: Trump was aggressive. Hillary wasn't. But it wasn't off-putting like it was for the VP debate. But that's because Trump is naturally aggressive; Kaine isn't. So it didn't feel phony or desperate. You could "feel" Trump with his aggression. Kaine was more of just saying it aggressively for special effect.
With that said, I'd say 53-47 Trump.
I don't feel good giving it to Trump, but I get the perception that Trump survived something that could have been a complete catastrophe. The tapes didn't get enough airtime in the debate, and that may have been Trump's saving grace (and the fact that it occurred earlier in the debate, rather than in the latter half)
EDIT: Maybe I'm COMPLETELY wrong and completely misread it this time. That's just my initial impression.
This one? I dunno. There were huge expectations for Hillary and low expectations for Trump. And I don't think Hillary met the expectations and Trump did a much better job than I thought he would -- and a lot of that had to do with the questions (emails, the Affordable Car Act, etc.)
The first part of the debate was an absolute clusterfuck for Trump, and he would have lost handily if it was based on that. But like the CNN folks were saying, it seemed like Trump "stopped the bleeding." And that is almost a win in itself.
Another thing I want to note: Trump was aggressive. Hillary wasn't. But it wasn't off-putting like it was for the VP debate. But that's because Trump is naturally aggressive; Kaine isn't. So it didn't feel phony or desperate. You could "feel" Trump with his aggression. Kaine was more of just saying it aggressively for special effect.
With that said, I'd say 53-47 Trump.
I don't feel good giving it to Trump, but I get the perception that Trump survived something that could have been a complete catastrophe. The tapes didn't get enough airtime in the debate, and that may have been Trump's saving grace (and the fact that it occurred earlier in the debate, rather than in the latter half)
EDIT: Maybe I'm COMPLETELY wrong and completely misread it this time. That's just my initial impression.
Yeah saw that. Pence going down with the ship.
RPGCrazied
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Hillary won again. 2 for 2. Not even close folks. Trump is a tremendous clown and lunatic.
Vermin Supreme in the next debate.
Fine Ham Abounds
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It was probably the only memorable part of the debate and the only thing with potential effects, so yeah
FrenchMovieTheme
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Johnson is a fucking idiot
I don't give props for lying constantly and throwing everything and the kitchen sink at your opponent, true or not.
It will appeal to his core base, but on substance, there was nothing.
I'm surprised this isn't a bigger deal. The PBS pundits haven't brought it up at all.
She doesn't want to get into the mud to wrestle with Trump, instead preferring to focus on her policies. She could retort back in a more forceful manner but I fear she would come out the worst. Nobody does verbal diarrhoea better than Trump.
Version 3.0
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That's ridiculous. He lost, and somewhat badly. It should've been worse, though.
I will not give props to someone who called refugees a Trojan horse.
Risible
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Frustrated_me
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Looks like a character fro Guess Who?
BONE 4 PREZ
Rabbi_Vole
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The narrative is set.
Yeah, no clue. That's what they just said.
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