Mr. PlayStation
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I would say it's a must! Just use the settings that I quoted in my previous comment. Night and day difference I am seeing and feeling
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I would say it's a must! Just use the settings that I quoted in my previous comment. Night and day difference I am seeing and feeling
soundscream
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Are you stalling the car?
NihonTiger90
Member
Couple of quick questions:
1.) I'm playing right now on PC with the Xbox 360 controller. I've seen several different set-up suggestions for the XB1 and 360 controllers, but is there one that's preferred or works best?
2.) Are there any controls on PC for zooming in and out on replays so I can take some screenshots that aren't from a far distance or first-person? I have been trying to figure that out for some time.
1.) I'm playing right now on PC with the Xbox 360 controller. I've seen several different set-up suggestions for the XB1 and 360 controllers, but is there one that's preferred or works best?
2.) Are there any controls on PC for zooming in and out on replays so I can take some screenshots that aren't from a far distance or first-person? I have been trying to figure that out for some time.
If you're on PC, you can increase and decrease FOV with the brackets.
I fully agree with you here. We have been telling SMS all this time: At least give us a way to filter people without real assists. Nothing. I was very clear about how bad the TT screen was. I never use it, I always use this: http://cars-stats-steam.wmdportal.com/index.php/leaderboard
Not only it is way faster, but it also provides basic info that should have been included in the game.
SMS has done a really poor job with the UI and HUD in every possible way. It's like they don't want to show the wear of the tyres in the HUD, but then you you use an app and there it is. They don't want to have a calculator for how much fuel you used in a lap, but the app tells you if you want. The HUD doesn't tell you if there's wind, but the app does. It doesn't make any sense. That's info that the game is providing to external apps, but not to the in game HUD.
Even though we've been telling how bad the UI and HUD was, they never paid attention. They just changed cosmetics. It was painfull seeing how so many basic things were not included. Like the spotter, that now that the game is released and people complain the say they will add it through the engie. Notthing that wasn't suggested a bazillion times through development.
Don't take me wrong, WMD has been a fantastic tool and a very interesting experience and I have learned a lot about development, but some devs were simply more open to make full use out of it, why others had a strng vision of what they wanted to do and mostly ignored any external input. Turns out that those that paid more attention to what WMD had to say have been greatly praised by customers, while most complaints come from the work done by those more closed to their own ideas.
Let's hope they learn the leason for the second game.
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I just rage quit on this very track. The Dubai cup before was a piece of cake, won both races with 10+ seconds to spare. I was thinking about upping the difficulty a bit. But then this track came and my kart responds like shit. And once you've hit the grass just a tiny bit you're off and everyone drives past you to be never seen again. I'll try again tomorrow
seattle6418
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Yep, i changed my mind a little bit. My initial post about the Karts was complementing, comparing to real life and such but... no, it's a little off. They need to work on it. Too twitchy. The 125 shifter kart is the hardest vehicle i've driven in this game. Shouldn't be like this.
Luckily that was practice or qualifying after I had already got a leading time.I just rage quit on this very track. The Dubai cup before was a piece of cake, won both races with 10+ seconds to spare. I was thinking about upping the difficulty a bit. But then this track came and my kart responds like shit. And once you've hit the grass just a tiny bit you're off and everyone drives past you to be never seen again. I'll try again tomorrow
I recorded the race. Didn't realize I had to manually up the length of races. Figured it was because its still early career.
Karts really do bounce around a lot on that track. Really had to keep it off the edges and even slow down when topping a hill to keep it from wobbling.
https://youtu.be/1djsIvdc4v4
Windom Earle
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lol probably. Guess I released the clutch without realizing this game has that feature, haha.
Yeah, that race you recorded is 5 laps for me. I managed to get a third place in the first race. Saving the sprint race for tomorrow to save some frustration.
soundscream
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Yeah I had to assign a button on my wheel after my car stopped and realized "oh that's why they have an engine start button".
So I'm in a 16 car formula rookie race over 7 laps. I was 10th on the grid but fell 5 places to 15th. I was on the 4th lap and got nudged off the track by the opponent behind me. So I decide to just hit pause and skip to the end of the session. On doing so I find I've miraculously finished 1st with a time of 9 minutes 48 seconds, well ahead of the rest of the pack who finished 13 minutes later on 24 minutes +
Games completely broke, I'm out. What's my chances of getting my money refunded from PSN. I like the game when it works, which let's be honest is not very often. I can't be bothered with it anymore, it's just too frustrating.
Edit: just to clarify, by frustrating I mean all the different bugs I've encountered not the actual gameplay itself. They are really spoiling my enjoyment of the game.
http://youtu.be/hyeiCBucYAc
Games completely broke, I'm out. What's my chances of getting my money refunded from PSN. I like the game when it works, which let's be honest is not very often. I can't be bothered with it anymore, it's just too frustrating.
Edit: just to clarify, by frustrating I mean all the different bugs I've encountered not the actual gameplay itself. They are really spoiling my enjoyment of the game.
http://youtu.be/hyeiCBucYAc
Karts pro-tip: avoid the kerbs on every track, they fuck you up.
Just the way they are unfortunately, they behave like tiny cars in this game rather than actual karts and don't scale well to the same bumps in the circuits. They need a complete re-work in the next game with their own individual physics.
Just the way they are unfortunately, they behave like tiny cars in this game rather than actual karts and don't scale well to the same bumps in the circuits. They need a complete re-work in the next game with their own individual physics.
That's a weird bug.
Strangest thing I've come across so far is restarting the community event Clio cup session and finding the car besides the track.
I've not experienced that one myself. Everyone seems to be experiencing all different kinds of bugs. The list must be huge by now.
endlessflood
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I have to say I've been disappointed with the game graphically (PS4); it's not bad, but after so many years of Gran Turismo the lack of polish and technical proficiency here is really jarring.
What I will say is that the handling model is bliss, and the cars sound like sex. Those two things make this game a keeper for me
What I will say is that the handling model is bliss, and the cars sound like sex. Those two things make this game a keeper for me
Updated my settings a tad, just to give me a bit more steering angle and stopping power compared to the last. If you prefer slightly heavier or slower steering, just put Speed Sensitivity back up to 65.
Control configuration.
Steering deadzone - 15
Steering sensitivity - 20
Throttle deadzone - 5
Throttle sensitivity - 30
Brake deadzone - 5
Brake sensitivity - 30
Clutch deadzone - 10
Clutch sensitivity - 45
Speed sensitivity - 50
Controller filtering sensitivity - 30
Force Feedback - 100
Controller input mode - 3
Advanced - Off
Field of view.
Hood camera - 70
Cockpit camera - 77
Helmet camera - 70
Movement.
High speed shake - on
World movement - 100
G-force effect - 50
Show helmet - no
Helmet depth of field - no
Helmet look to apex - 0
Helmet leaning - 0
Camera leaning - 0
Extra.
Steering assist - off
Braking assist - off
Traction control - off
Stability control - off
Control configuration.
Steering deadzone - 15
Steering sensitivity - 20
Throttle deadzone - 5
Throttle sensitivity - 30
Brake deadzone - 5
Brake sensitivity - 30
Clutch deadzone - 10
Clutch sensitivity - 45
Speed sensitivity - 50
Controller filtering sensitivity - 30
Force Feedback - 100
Controller input mode - 3
Advanced - Off
Field of view.
Hood camera - 70
Cockpit camera - 77
Helmet camera - 70
Movement.
High speed shake - on
World movement - 100
G-force effect - 50
Show helmet - no
Helmet depth of field - no
Helmet look to apex - 0
Helmet leaning - 0
Camera leaning - 0
Extra.
Steering assist - off
Braking assist - off
Traction control - off
Stability control - off
nikos
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Thanks for sharing. I like your old settings (slightly modified) so much that I'm afraid to change them, but I'll try these out as well.
On PS4 dualshock I'm using the settings below (posted earlier) and very happy. Only addition is turning on steering assist too...at least for now. Try that with the Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe DTM on Nordschliefe and let me know what you think....
Tried those. It works okay with every modern GT cars, but that's awful with classics and road cars, switched back to regular mode 3 and steering deadzone at 20. Feels way better in every case, at least for me.
Overall I feel that the game is designed for wheels, and pad gameplay is there just to be there.
For me it's Shift 2 all over again, great game that no matter how hard I try, I am not able to enjoy fully because pad gameplay.
Out of curiosity what teeaks did you make to them?
nikos
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Double checked and it looks like I ended up keeping them the same, other than controller filtering which was at 25.
Just tried your new settings in a 250cc kart and they feel great. Testing more vehicles now.
Thanks again for posting, you pretty much saved the game for me.
Those are close to mine, I tweaked mine while driving karts mostly, did you do yours for cars?
Actually, here's mine, mostly done with carts, f1 on an x1 pad:
Fox Mulder
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A general console controller just doesn't have the input sensitivity a wheel has and makes everything twitchy. Wish we had niche racing specific controllers like the old days.
I think there was a rumor of MS making new pro controllers for fps and racing for E3 or something, not too long to see if it was true.
I'm gonna get a wheel anyways since I'm gonna play the hell out of horizon 2, f1 2015, pcars, and forza 6 for awhile.
So far I've done them for a mixture. My test vehicles being the Kart, Ford Focus, Audi R8, Pagani Huayra and the McLaren P1. The P1 seems twitchier than many of the race cars (Z8, R8 etc), so if I can keep the P1 tamed, it's usually a good barometer that the settings offer decent leeway.
Only thing I was finding with my old settings was that steering on certain (slower) vehicles was just a tad heavy. I figured out I could improve this without making things too twitchy using Speed Sensitivity, which when dropped to 0 basically makes the handing insanely twitchy, and incredibly fast (mimicking the analogue stick). Putting this up seems to compensate for the analogue movement speed, so I dropped it just a touch compared to before (where originally I had it set to 65) just to give me back a tad more speed.
The only other changes were brake sensitivity (to give me more last minute stopping coverage), as well as turning Helmet Leaning and Camera Leaning to 0. These two things were complicating the look of ordinary high speed straights, where a tiny move left or right would swing the camera awkwardly.
Windom Earle
Member
I really like how not "consolized" this game is in many ways. One of the freedoms of kickstarter funded games?
A racing sim will logically always be superior with a wheel, but of course it's a very unfortunate situation that the PS4 has very shitty wheel support.
A racing sim will logically always be superior with a wheel, but of course it's a very unfortunate situation that the PS4 has very shitty wheel support.
Yeap, my G25 weeps.
lem0n
Member
Is your setup the gold standard in this thread? I'm thinking about playing pCARS tonight with my Xbone pad for the first time. I just don't feel like dragging my Playseat/G27 over right now lol.
That's the setting I was worried about mostly with mine for cars, makes sense I'll need to drop it for slower/heavy cars, thank you.
I don't know if there's any gold standard per se, but I've used every other set up posted earlier in the thread, and prefer mine. I think it will depend on your driving style, the vehicles etc. I'm using a DS4 mind, so no idea if they'll work as well with the Xbox One. Some XO users are using them and have reported good results, so there's that.
lem0n
Member
I'll give it a shot. I just see your setup posted here and there so figured it was the one to use!
endlessflood
Member
Wouldn't it be fair to say though that the best drivers in the world are in F1, not LMP1? It's only when guys can't get a seat in F1 any more that they tend to head to LMP1. I've never heard of the reverse happening... It just seems strange to me.
seattle6418
Member
So i finally tried online to see how it was. Quick match worked better than i thought, but it meant casuals.
First race everything went fine, pole, won, never looked back. Second race was Formula C at Imola, some good guys racing. I managed to be in first and then as i cross the finish line i knew i had won because i was seeing second place in my mirror.
Once the results came up i was second, 0'038 behind. I mean, WTF??? Is this lag or...?
Online has a lot of potential... just need to find the right people. Add me on steam seattle6418 or on PSN FASJ6418.
First race everything went fine, pole, won, never looked back. Second race was Formula C at Imola, some good guys racing. I managed to be in first and then as i cross the finish line i knew i had won because i was seeing second place in my mirror.
Once the results came up i was second, 0'038 behind. I mean, WTF??? Is this lag or...?
Online has a lot of potential... just need to find the right people. Add me on steam seattle6418 or on PSN FASJ6418.
StueyRowls
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Just posted the Fanatec issues I'm having on PS4 on the PCars forums, hopefully we see a patch soon.
Even with the issues, I'm still having a blast. I've been concentrating on the Formula Rookie series, but just completed one of the historical invitationals in the Ford Escort. Was a nice change of pace and highlighted the differences in approaches needed per vehicle. Really had to make sure I was rev matching on downshifts, otherwise the back end would kick out as the engine speed didn't match the cars speed. Great fun
Even with the issues, I'm still having a blast. I've been concentrating on the Formula Rookie series, but just completed one of the historical invitationals in the Ford Escort. Was a nice change of pace and highlighted the differences in approaches needed per vehicle. Really had to make sure I was rev matching on downshifts, otherwise the back end would kick out as the engine speed didn't match the cars speed. Great fun
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I laughed way too hard at this.
Windom Earle
Member
Seriously, is there a GAF race group? I'd be totally down for that.
You can tune the cats in the community challenges? How do you do that? I am getting up the leader board but I would love to be able to tweak a few things, I thought it was stock settings only add everything is greyed out In the pre race menu.
I think, that if you have a setup saved for the particular combo, it will use it.
30 days till Le Mans!
Is there a Ford Focus St or ford fiesta St on this?
I've looked at the car list but only browsed quick but couldn't see them
Focus RS
The new one?
seattle6418
Member
Go to my garage and change the settings there. Also the gameplay aids you choose are the ones you will have on the challenge. It's stupid, because it makes you exit the track everytime you want to change something on your setup.
I'm taking part In a community event, do some laps and am happy with my lap time. Exit the event and try to find myself on the event leaderboard and it tells me I have not set a lap time. Strange. Am I that slow?
It seems to take quite a lot of time before your time is registered to the leaderboards. Like up to an hour even.
I made a barebones group, only 10 people so far. Quote for URL. *edit* Augh bottom of page for 50-posts-per-page people.
The main handy thing is coordinating races through the Steam group chat. I assume we could also add links, occasional event reminders, or whatever if people are interested.