PROMETHEUS UNMARKED SPOILER THREAD!
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TheJollyCorner
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worried that people wouldn't know who it was?
Maybe the practical effects just looked silly?
I know. I don't like those reason either. :/
Probably hoping for too much, but I hope the bluray has original Fifield mutant design and original proto-xeno design at the end. Seems to me both had a lot of work done on them before being replaced.
Speedymanic
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^ dude, I don't need to see that before I head out for my break.
What she should have done was run left.
lol.
What she should have done was run left.
lol.
SquiddyCracker
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This really annoyed me, especially as the wheel was relatively far away and not an immediate threat.
For us that are seeing the action from a nice far away point of view is obvious you should go left, but neither Shaw nor Vickers had that point of view, all they know was that there was a giant ship falling over them, so you just run. I did not have problems with that reaction, Shaw was saved only because she stumbled and fell, giving her only rolling as her option to scape.
I don't think so, debris from the ship was already falling right next to them.
It was a terrible death, no question about it, but is realistic, I love how people are all "lol I would have run left", tell that to earthquake/tsunami/tornado victims, people aren't smart in dangerous situations, obviously. If anything I liked that little bit of realism.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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I also think they wanted to leave a little doubt on if she was a robot, so killing in a way that shows no blood was a must.
Also I'm amazing I have heard no one say Shaw surviving the ship crashing on her was dumb, because it was.
Speedymanic
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dude, didn't you see the sparks as the ship hit the rock? That super rock saved her life. it's totally believable that the planet has rocks that can sustain the crushing weight of a falling ship and only produce nine sparks. (seriously, count them...there were nine sparks)
Didn't she threaten to find the wire that makes David run and pull it out if he did not tell her what Whelan said? Wouldn't she know where that wire is and what it was called if she was also a robot? Unless she was programmed not to know.
Metalmurphy
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Took me longer then it should have to get that one. Nice.
She also had sex with the Captain, although things could be pretty evolved down there.
But was she really? What she did was expected and understandable. She even showed remorse afterwards. That's why killing her in a very villainish way made no sense.
We don't know how hard were the rocks on that planet.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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I'm not saying she is or isn't, just that they might want to let the question stand, crushing her makes the death definite (either way) and obscured.
Deified Data
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No, they would have stared at the Engineer like a turkey into a rainstorm until he actively got up and twisted their heads off. Then they would have insisted on splitting up during their escape so that they could be more easily picked off. There's no reason the entire Alien crew should have bit it to a single xenomorph if they were any more competent than the crew of the Prometheus.
Been thinking a lot about why the Engineers want to kill of humanity. We all know that they have been coming to us through many civilization right? The human race has treated the Engineers as gods when they came from the sky.
What if 2000 years ago they came to the roman empire and where treated as gods. But somewhere someone started to question them if they really are gods and so on and started to demand for eternal life. That way it pissed of the Engineers (which came with ships not having any black goo) and returned to the military/research base and then got overrun by the a,items or vsomething.
What if 2000 years ago they came to the roman empire and where treated as gods. But somewhere someone started to question them if they really are gods and so on and started to demand for eternal life. That way it pissed of the Engineers (which came with ships not having any black goo) and returned to the military/research base and then got overrun by the a,items or vsomething.
What do you mean?
Metalmurphy
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The amount of pods they had, + multiple ships, I'm pretty sure they wanted to wipe out more then just humans. Or they just wanted to start to populate the universe with a new species, like starting from scratch.
They weren't initially but yeah they did swerve a few times, but why swerve in different directions several times? lol
Escape Goat
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Shaw fell down and Vickers was like "haha bitch! I'm outta here!" I couldn't help but laugh.
Maybe Scott had to edit out the parts where the donut visibly swerves to chase them down.
The engineer was alive inside and Im sure still maneuvered the donut until the systems eventually shut down.
Nappuccino
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I don't think they were intentionally swerving so much as running on the landscape
Deified Data
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Like staring at a facehugger egg for a full minute, watching it pulsate menacingly, only to stick your nose into it when it's creepy labial folds open up. Or like sending one man alone into the the vents to kill this obviously dangerous creature. Will fire even work? Who the hell knows!
I don't hold these instances against Alien, but anyone saying the crew of Alien is somehow more competent than their Prometheus counterparts are deluded by nostalgia.
Tokubetsu
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Yea, I'm not too down on that scene like most because they were definitely panicking and trying to traverse the terrain along with trying to get the fuck out the way.
Prometheus is also an unfortunate name, he did not have a happy ending.
Which disappointed me a little, I was expecting some biological nightmare in where the crew, or some members of the crew, ended up with their organs being harvested for eternity or some other horrible scenario that was in line with the myth. Given the cesarean tease in the trailers, I was truly expecting Shaw was going to be giving birth after birth of some nasty creatures or something along those lines. What we got had little to do with the actual Prometheus myth, except being punished by stealing from gods, but thats the basic of many myths, Prometheus has a darker and more disturbing specific angle.
Nappuccino
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They even named it Icarus II to differentiate from the first failed Icarus shuttle.
That is like naming your boat "SS Titanic Jr."
Escape Goat
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Best Buy has a lot of blurays on sale now. I got T2, Independence Day, Predator and Aliens for 8 bucks each. I wanted to get Master and Commander and a few more Aliens but I figured I had enough for one day.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Stringer Bell needed someone to fuck.
And while we're on the subject, you have Charlize Theron and Idris Elba having sex off camera?
The hell?
Just saw it.
What the christ did I just watch. An Alien movie without a fuckin single alien? Why was the chick husband infected? Why did David do it? Why is there so many characters?
Nice job removing any mystery with the space jockey too.
Also, I want a rock that can hold a 1 bilion ton spaceship please.
Basically, great art design, great landscape shots and the rest was terrible.
Also Stringer Bell as a space ship pilot. I'm okay with this.
What the christ did I just watch. An Alien movie without a fuckin single alien? Why was the chick husband infected? Why did David do it? Why is there so many characters?
Nice job removing any mystery with the space jockey too.
Also, I want a rock that can hold a 1 bilion ton spaceship please.
Basically, great art design, great landscape shots and the rest was terrible.
Also Stringer Bell as a space ship pilot. I'm okay with this.
It wasn't an Alien film and it did have an Alien in it. Does that make sense?
Speedymanic
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I'll check it out when I get home, currently on my mobile.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Actually, David walking around the ship by himself while the others are sleeping is more likely a no to Cameron. Cameron has explained that it was a scene he wanted for Bishop, but didn't have time to film. It's on the Aliens commentary.
Bishop walking around the Sulaco as just another part of droning mechanical life whilst waiting for the others to wake up.
Bishop walking around the Sulaco as just another part of droning mechanical life whilst waiting for the others to wake up.
Speedymanic
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Even worse, we don't see her change into the space suit as she evacs from the Prometheus. :'(
SCULLIBUNDO
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Except that you're taking about the characters of Alien.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Shame it wasn't shot, can't wait for Cameron's PROMETHEUSES.
Which reminds me it was kind of weird that Ash is seen in hypersleep with the rest of the human crew in Alien.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Not really. They weren't supposed to know e was an android.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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No one knows his a replicant, he was sent by the company to help the Alien then contain and bring it back to them.
Those orange space suits had a really cool design, I was disappointed that they were never used in the film.
He pretended to be human, so it makes sense.
Edit: beaten.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Yes you are right. In context of the story it makes sense but does it really make sense that an android is in hypersleep? OMG PLOT HOLE ALIEN SUCKED!!!!
My friend said the same but I'm not sure I'm seeing it.Those were massive 2001 references.
They were showed only briefly, but I think they looked quite different, outside the color of course, but that's almost the default color for space suits.
They reminded me of an atmospheric diving suit more than anything.
But again, they were showed quite briefly, so I might just got the wrong impression.
I've been trying to find a good picture of them online without much success so far.
Edit: I do think that the interior of the ship are heavily influenced by 2001, so there might be something to your theory.
Edit2: found this image -
I see it now and I understand why I didn't get it at first viewing.
Nice.
Escape Goat
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Shaw looks like a teenager in the suit. How tall is Rapace?
Another thing that keeps bothering me
So Prometheus had Weyland, founder and owner of the company, on board. Supposedly the trip cost tons, so I am sure it wasn't a hidden secret trip. People, at least at his company, know about it. Not only that but his daughter is on board too. They both die. Yet before Nostromo nothing of this incident is known, investigated, or discovered?
Of course they could address all this if they do Prometheus 2, but considering how Alien begins with no knowledge of previous events, it just seems impossible.
So Prometheus had Weyland, founder and owner of the company, on board. Supposedly the trip cost tons, so I am sure it wasn't a hidden secret trip. People, at least at his company, know about it. Not only that but his daughter is on board too. They both die. Yet before Nostromo nothing of this incident is known, investigated, or discovered?
Of course they could address all this if they do Prometheus 2, but considering how Alien begins with no knowledge of previous events, it just seems impossible.
Escape Goat
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Send in the clones.
5 foot 4 apparently.
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