That’s a bad comparison though, no matter how much money Microsoft could through at the Xbox design it would still be limited by the BoM as well as what technology was available from AMD. The neural net for AI upscaling just gets the more supercomputer processing you throw at it to train on.
Same here, not by a huge margin but noticeable no doubt after performing not just the Reset but the black level tweak as well. Had a few magenta misfires for a few minutes but then pitch black for years.
Oh man, you can say that again. It is indeed a problem, if a game has an invasive HUD that not even Pixel Orbiter can manage, I simply have to limit my playtime and that actually bothers me a lot.
all games are digital. your physical copy is just a key that proves you own the copy that's installed on the hard drive
Really not that difficult to fathom considering results of base PS5 fidelity mode vs high end PC with DLSS/DLAA on some existing games.
Oh yes I remember. The irony. But those people are on a different script now. "Those PS5 Pro 30fps games!"haha this remind me of early of this generation where there is people absolute confident that Xbox Series X gonna stomp PS5 in ML department. you know.. the debate that claim the console has all latest features while PS5 is just RDNA 1.5 whatsoever.
fast foward..who doing ML and not right now?
Those textures are so good on base PS5. Cerny really did a great job with PS5. The fact that those quality textures can look even better on PS5 Pro is impressive.Really not that difficult to fathom considering results of base PS5 fidelity mode vs high end PC with DLSS/DLAA on some existing games.
Your post made me wondering how good the IQ of PSSR2 on PS6 could be, with much more extra work on it. I really want this PS5 PRO, I don't have a PS5 yet...
Those tasty ass PC RT shadows though.Really not that difficult to fathom considering results of base PS5 fidelity mode vs high end PC with DLSS/DLAA on some existing games.
He didn't say that, read it againYes PS5 pro is gonna be better than 4090
Please think before making threads
PS5 version also runs at 1440p/30 and the PC version at 4K DLSS/60fps in this example. The difference is dramatic in motion and with a clear picture, not that compressed youtube trash.
That would be great. Doubt this happens though. Quality Mode is 1440p/30. They'd need to increase the pixel count by 2.25x and double the frame rate or quadruple the resolution from the Performance Mode. PSSR looks promising, but it even it has limits.
I was referring to graphics, not resolution and FPS, the PC will always be superior in this. Black Myth Wukong is one of those cases where the differences are noticeable (thanks to the implementation of Ray Tracing), but as I said, the PS5 Pro can correct or reduce these differences.
PS5 version also runs at 1080p/60 with frame generation and the PC version at 4K DLSS/60fps in this example. The difference is dramatic in motion and with a clear picture, not that compressed youtube trash.
The difference in next-gen or demanding games is usually very big. Cyberpunk, Hogwarts Legacy, Star Wars Outlaws, Black Myth Wukong, Returnal, and more. It's not rare that the PC version looks much better in them. We've had a long cross-gen period that's now winding down and you can see the consoles are struggling a lot with third-party games, hence the reason for the PS5 Pro. The gap will keep increasing too.
None of these games have significant graphical differences between Console and PC (again, graphics). Many of these games are extremely poorly optimized, Dragons Dogma 2 would easily run 60FPS at 1080P with decent optimization, but is locked at 30 due to the amateurism of the developers.
That's complete bullshit and demonstrably false.
The footage shown so far looks like we're getting RT shadows on the Pro-Spiderman (btw can we make this a thing now? Pro-'Game name' if it becomes a thing I want credit ;P )
Let's hope it's true. I thought the same but in the video those shadows then seem to morph into PS5 ones for a few frames. We'll see. Would be great as I love RT shadows to death.
What's even more funnier. Is how you Xbox warriors now try and compare ps5s to high powered pcs now Xbox is dead.
No, I even watched the comparison of Cyberpunk 2077 and Dragons Dogma 2 from the same channel where you got the image of Black Myth Wukong
Should be, but I'd rather they add ray tracing effects instead of shooting for super high resolution. The GI, reflections, shadows, and caustics in Wukong are glorious.
That's....not happening
it would be tough to do, but possible. BMW is pretty heavy, my 6800XT is barely able to average a bit above 1440p60fps with some settings finagling (some on high/cinematic but there are some that have to get turned down). PS5 Pro is gonna have worse raster, so it'd have to drop the internal resolution to maybe 1080p. It'll depend heavily on how good PSSR really is.That's....not happening
Yes, thanks for proving my point, the graphics are similar, but the implementation of Ray Tracing changes that. Let's see how the PS5 Pro changes that.Should be, but I'd rather they add ray tracing effects instead of shooting for super high resolution. The GI, reflections, shadows, and caustics in Wukong are glorious.
These images are also smaller, negating the differences in volumetric, AF, draw distances, roughness cutoff, particle resolution, and much much more. Also better to watch them from a monitor or large screen.
>The graphics are similar
Not exactly, the graphical differences used to be bigger between games (take Just Cause as an example). But still, I get it, the $2,000 card isn't doing more than its duty.
Just Cause was almost 20 years ago mate. God of War II and III are 3 years apart. God of War 2018 and Ragnarok are 4 years apart. Look at the difference.
So the cpu bandwidth runnin for free in the ps5 pro now huh.
I understand perfectly, I just used Just Cause as an example because it came out for PS2 and Xbox, and comparing both versions, they seem to be from different generations.
You do know that Sony makes other hardware/software than games consoles/games right. You know, hardware and software that necessitates things like upscaling technologies such as cameras, TV's and the like? Sony aren't going into this blind you know.They can also look at how NVidia et al have done their upscaling, it's not like they have to start from scratch with zero knowledge and have to work it out for themselves.
The Pro is absolutely weaker compared to the 4070 going off Sonys own performance estimates and the specifications of the GPU. The difference isn’t exactly massive and would probably not really matter to the average person so saying the 4070 best matches the Pro makes sense.
