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PS5 Pro Specs Leak are Real, Releasing Holiday 2024(Insider Gaming)
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So with the PS4 Pro games had a varying degree of improvements. Some small some much larger. Most games from now on I expect middling results, higher res/added ray traced shadows, occasional framerate jump. But Sonys going to have to show a bunch of games with a full blown Promode to sell the Pro. What games could that be? either in the September showcase or TGS. Just my wild guesses as Im excited for new hardware
Astrobot - 100%. We see it at TGS with a "Promode"
DS2- 99%. Again a show piece at TGS showing off the power of Pro
After that who knows. Sony cant just say "see Astrobot and DS2 take full advantage of the Pro and a year from now GTA6 will too".
NMS/ Light no fire - 75%. Hello games always been tight with Sony and data mining found mention of a PS5pro mode already for NMS.
Black Myth Wucong- 50%. If the IGN story is correct and there is an exclusivity deal with them and Sony then why not also a Promode worked into the deal.
Then what recent(ish) first party games get it out of SM, HZD, TLOU, GOW and GT7?
GT7- 60 fps with ingame raytracing? or 120fps with much higher res and detail?
Good news is we wont have to wait long. Next few weeks should be very interesting.
Astrobot - 100%. We see it at TGS with a "Promode"
DS2- 99%. Again a show piece at TGS showing off the power of Pro
After that who knows. Sony cant just say "see Astrobot and DS2 take full advantage of the Pro and a year from now GTA6 will too".
NMS/ Light no fire - 75%. Hello games always been tight with Sony and data mining found mention of a PS5pro mode already for NMS.
Black Myth Wucong- 50%. If the IGN story is correct and there is an exclusivity deal with them and Sony then why not also a Promode worked into the deal.
Then what recent(ish) first party games get it out of SM, HZD, TLOU, GOW and GT7?
GT7- 60 fps with ingame raytracing? or 120fps with much higher res and detail?
Good news is we wont have to wait long. Next few weeks should be very interesting.
Preseznik
Neo Member
The main thing GT7 can improve in is VR. Currently its running at 60 reprojected to 120, which looks terrible and even makes people sick.
They need to hit steady 120 without reprojection, or if that isn't feasible, 90 works great as well.
I run all my PCVR racing sims at 90 without ASW and it's *night and day* to how terrible GT7 feels in VR.
If they do this one thing, I'll buy two (for both my sim rigs).
Obviously I'll accept any improvements (raytracing ingame etc), but VR is my main interest in following PS5 pro news.
Sw0pDiller
Member
Get the disk drive add on. Problem solved.
Physiognomonics
Member
They are creating as much FUD as they can about any new Sony hardware, as usual. They were doing that for both PS4 (14 CU + 4 CU), and PS5 (9TF, RDNA1, not hardware RT) for years and they'll happily do it for PS5 Pro aswell. They are MS free shills.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Skifi28
Member
Sounds like base 4070-ish performance as originally foretold. I have one on my PC and I'm pretty happy with it, so it sounds great for a console.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
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Why are brokies constantly mentioning the rumored price of the PS5 Pro?
If it's something you want, get it.
If you're concerned about the price, save your money.
It's ok either way.
If it's something you want, get it.
If you're concerned about the price, save your money.
It's ok either way.
Sethbacca
Member
I've seen some videos mentioning a DualSense Edge v2 coming shortly after the Pro that resolves some of the battery life issues and such. Any of that been on your horizon just out of curiousity?I know someone kept saying 4070 ish real world performance
kevboard
Member
you have to basically cut RDNA3 teraflops numbers in half to get a sense of real world performance when compared to RDNA2
30 teraflops RDNA3 = ~15 teraflops RDNA2
that's not exactly how it works but it gives a better sense of the reality of it
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Have not heard anything about a new controller but if we do get one I hope for 4 back buttons this time
diffusionx
Gold Member
I doubt it, they are going to gouge people with the PS5 Pro. Like $650-$750. They are going to tell the nerds that if you want a powerful system like you've been whining about for years, time to pay up lol.
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kevboard
Member
Have not heard anything about a new controller but if we do get one I hope for 4 back buttons this time
I'm more in favour of adding additional shoulder buttons tbh.
too many paddles on the back and the chances increase that you need to use an uncomfortable grip to not accidentally hit a paddle
Nonehxc
Member
Real pic of HeisenbergFX4 in the wild.Have not heard anything about a new controller but if we do get one I hope for 4 back buttons this time
Now we know why his nick...
HeisenbergFingersX4
No wonder he was a baseball ace
All that extra gear must have netted at least +10mph per when pitching.
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Bitstream
Member
There's no chance it's going to be 750; Sony has admitted that the pro model is a way to keep people in the Sony eco system instead of upgrading their computer, when you can get an RTX4070 for ~500, pricing this at >150 over that wouldn't do much in terms of convincing people to stay.
diffusionx
Gold Member
How many PS5 people have a game ready PC that they just need to slot a $500-$600 GPU into?
PC gaming has gotten way more expensive over the years unfortunately. A $750 PC build is pretty crappy. And that would be the price of the disc version.
The Best $750 Budget Gaming PC Build – September 2024
The Tech Buyer's Guru | Want to build a budget gaming PC for around $750 that's anything but "cheap"? This is the one, with plenty of top component picks!
techbuyersguru.com
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
It's more important how you justify the price than the price itself. What Killer aplications do you have?? They need to show some new games with the system.
SolidQ
Member
We don't know clock + consoles doesn't have IC
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
We’re over 4 years removed from the release of Ghost of Tsushima
If that game isn’t getting revealed alongside this system, then when?
If that game isn’t getting revealed alongside this system, then when?
Radical_3d
Member
We read you. We just love to argue.I know someone kept saying 4070 ish real world performance
ChiefDada
Gold Member
We know that at 54 CUs and less memory bandwidth than base PS5, 7700XT is a terribly inefficient gpu from a memory setup perspective. And IC becomes much less of a factor at the resolutions PS5 Pro will be targeting.
PaintTinJr
Member
Yeah the reality of pairing such an expensive GPU with the cheapest capable PSU, case, motherboard chipset, memory and mid-CPU to be just £200 over the price of a disc version never works out that way in reality. I would say the ratio of system costs to GPU costs for a budget build - which apparently now includes a £500 RTX4070 - is between 2/3rds to a 1/3 at the cheap GPU end and at best 3/5 and 2/5 at the expensive end, so its going to be £750 for a suitable PC to house a £500 'budget' card, because even at 1/2 and1/2 a £500 System to home a £500 GPU will have lots of the caveat issues of a OEM pre-built.How many PS5 people have a game ready PC that they just need to slot a $500-$600 GPU into?
PC gaming has gotten way more expensive over the years unfortunately. A $750 PC build is pretty crappy. And that would be the price of the disc version.
The Best $750 Budget Gaming PC Build – September 2024
The Tech Buyer's Guru | Want to build a budget gaming PC for around $750 that's anything but "cheap"? This is the one, with plenty of top component picks!
I keep putting off upgrading my 12 core workstation system I use for productivity, and the reality is I'm going to need to spend at least £900 to not feel I'm cutting corners, and that's even reusing a £150 PSU, reusing a £150 case, and reusing storage, and my GPU, and already having a retail copy of Windows Pro and a portable Blu-ray player/writer for it, and using LAN NIC rather than Wifi.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The irony being that Super Saiyan 3 is the most inefficient and energy intensive Super Saiyan form. So much so that Goku can’t keep it for more than a couple of minutes with a living body. It’s quite literally the ultimate "brute force" method which makes it much closer to what the 4090 is.
7700 XT is a bit too low in my opinion. I still stand by your 4070 prediction. Could be 4070S+ in exclusives. I wonder if they can leverage dual-issue compute somehow.
nnytk
Neo Member
Honestly, Dragons Dogma 2 and Alan Wake 2 at 60fps with improved graphics, would be lovely to see for someone like me who doesn't own a PS5.
Or DS2, MH Wilds, Wukong, all running smoothly at 60fps
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
We need to have a poll before this thing launches asking “Which Nvidia GPU will the PS5 Pro perform comparably to in raster?”
We already know the PS5 performs comparably to the 2070S/2080 in raster.
I’m personally of the belief it’ll perform more-or-less similar to a 4070. Anything less than that and it’s like…what’s the point of this thing?
We already know the PS5 performs comparably to the 2070S/2080 in raster.
I’m personally of the belief it’ll perform more-or-less similar to a 4070. Anything less than that and it’s like…what’s the point of this thing?
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
A 13400F is plenty good for a 4070. The real problem with that setup is the slow-ass DDR4 and motherboard.How many PS5 people have a game ready PC that they just need to slot a $500-$600 GPU into?
PC gaming has gotten way more expensive over the years unfortunately. A $750 PC build is pretty crappy. And that would be the price of the disc version.
The Best $750 Budget Gaming PC Build – September 2024
The Tech Buyer's Guru | Want to build a budget gaming PC for around $750 that's anything but "cheap"? This is the one, with plenty of top component picks!
Crispy Gamer
Member
Now that we're seemingly getting closer to a reveal I'm starting to get hyped again I just hope they can show an appreciable difference I want to see raytracing and GI everywhere
Physiognomonics
Member
7700xt or 7800xt is really not that far. And he said better RT. Nobody just knows yet how much better.
PeteBull
Gold Member
AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT Specs
AMD Navi 32, 2544 MHz, 3456 Cores, 216 TMUs, 96 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 192 bit
Xtib81
Member
What are you basing this assumption on?
Bernoulli
M2 slut
Now that you say it a way to keep the price cheap without outrage is having the pro at 599 digital and you need to buy the disc add-on
West Texas CEO
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
I don't mind a disc strap-on.
I'm all digital, as it were.
I'm all digital, as it were.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Here’s where things start to become a little head-scratchy when you really start to think about a $599 digital edition Pro
The PS5 Digital Edition launched in November 2020 for $399, at roughly ~half the performance level of the top GPU released that same year (3090)
If PS5 Pro digital edition launches in November 2024 for $599, at roughly ~half the performance level of the top GPU released 2 years ago (4090)
….that seems like…pretty disappointing price/performance relative to where the PS5 stood at launch.
The PS5 Digital Edition launched in November 2020 for $399, at roughly ~half the performance level of the top GPU released that same year (3090)
If PS5 Pro digital edition launches in November 2024 for $599, at roughly ~half the performance level of the top GPU released 2 years ago (4090)
….that seems like…pretty disappointing price/performance relative to where the PS5 stood at launch.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
I’m not comparing the 3090 to the 4090
I’m comparing PS5 to the best GPU available at the time of its release and PS5 Pro to the best GPU available at the time of its release
A $599 digital-only Pro doesn’t seem like nearly the same value in terms of price/performance as the original PS5 did when it launched. Not even close, actually.
Conversely, the PS4 and PS4 Pro GPU performance seemed pretty similar to each other in their respective launch years and at their respective launch price.
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PUNKem733
Member
So you are comparing, at the time of these consoles releases, these consoles to top of the line GPUs that cost EASILY over $1,000 when new? To $400-$500 Consoles? LMAO!! I don't post much, but many members on this site are incredible. Entertaining shit.
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MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Nah. You’re missing the point.
I’m comparing relative price/performance. I made that pretty clear in my post.
A $599 PS5 Pro digital edition in 2024 that performs ~half as well as a $1600 GPU released 2 years prior
Is objectively a lesser value, all things considered, than a $399 PS5 digital edition in 2020 that performs ~half as well as a $1500 GPU released the same holiday season
I’m still getting the Pro at launch. I’m just pointing out some inconsistencies.
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owandeseis
Member
lmao, 4070s is already stronger than 7800xt in raster, so you are saying Pro's AMD graphic card will perform like the latest NVIDIA's cards in RT ?
The comparison should be done to a similar PC in my opinion, not to the best graphic card available by that time, and the cost of that PC would be more or less the same than it was back in 2020, the difference is that this Pro console will be more expensive (might not be 600$ tho), but that's normal, console manufacturers will take more losses at the start of the generation to get as many people in, as soon as possible.
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
So you’re saying the Pro is going to perform more than half as well as the 4090?
That would put it into 4070S/3090 territory. Not happening.
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PeteBull
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PUNKem733
Member
I don't know how it will perform compared to PC GPUs, but as a console if PSSR is used right, this console might punch above it's weight more so then any other console ever. IF it's half as good as a 4090 that is just icing on the cake. If we look at the PS5 as a 2070/close to a 2080, and now the pro is being touted as somewhere around a 4070/4070Ti that would be a huge leap to me, but I don't PC game, I just read a lot.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
1. Sony's estimates for real world uplift over base PS5.
2. How base PS5 compares to PC GPU's in games available today.
Nope, they are tied in raster only performance.