PS5 : The Future Of Gaming. NeoGAF Viewing Thread. June 11th 1PM PDT/ 9PM BST

Looked okay but nothing you're trying to sell a system on.

I hear what you're saying, although a minority of games are actually considered system sellers for the masses (there's 2500+ games on ps4 (how many are considered system sellers?), which sold 110M and had quite the average launch lineup/reveal)

I re-watched the trailer for Deathloop. Definitely buying this and I really hope the ost will be awesome because I'm digging that end of trailer song
 
They started off with 3 next gen AAA exclusives. Then had horizon and that space game and sackboy. Plus a lot of newly revealed third party. Plus they saved the console reveal and some peripherals . Not sure how this can compare to that half hour no exclusive Xbox showcase

What do you mean started off with? They started off w/ GTA V *enhanced* (aka PC version). Which space game are you referring to? Pragmata? That's for PC & XSX too.

Regarding the MS 3rd party show, Medium & Scorn are 3rd party MS exclusives. Check back in July for the 1st party show :messenger_smirking:
 
What the fuck were people expecting, for real. It's a damn console. They showed off some true, AAA, top-tier games, of the sort people have been asking for for a long time. They showed gameplay. The games looked great. What is the problem? I am not a Sony fanboy, far from it, but they did a great job, great enough that the thought crossed my head to try to get one of these things.
 
It's possible some of these aren't technically possible on the PS4 (at least not in 4k) but every game looked like a PS4 game that was pushed back to be on ps5. The console design is not good either. It looks like a fancy router that is way too big to put in any living room.
 
It wasn't perfect by any means but Sony's conference was the clear winner.

I have to imagine that Sony held some of their stuff back. With the game of chicken that they are playing with Microsoft, there's no way they don't have something up their sleeve in response to the Halo reveal.
GT, Ratchet, Spidey, Horizon aren't enough to counter Halo? Or do you mean an FPS specifically?
What do you mean started off with? They started off w/ GTA V *enhanced* (aka PC version). Which space game are you referring to? Pragmata? That's for PC & XSX too.

Regarding the MS 3rd party show, Medium & Scorn are 3rd party MS exclusives. Check back in July for the 1st party show :messenger_smirking:
I was referring to returnal actually
 
It's possible some of these aren't technically possible on the PS4 (at least not in 4k) but every game looked like a PS4 game that was pushed back to be on ps5. The console design is not good either. It looks like a fancy router that is way too big to put in any living room.
How small is your living room? If I can fit a 40 something inch soundbar sure the PS5 or XSX can fit. They'll both be big for heating issues but it's nothing unfeasible and I think it looks sexy as hell. There's a gazillion devices that look like anything they would've shown.
 
So you get a system every 3 years (I assume) and you are happy they lasted that long? I guess that's what people nowadays find durable. But what if I don't want to worry about the launch system and not trade shit? I could just wait a year or for a new revision with another chip that doesn't melt?

Right, anyway people take care of their systems and even then they fail. Launch systems ALWAYS seem to have issues since the 360 days. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it didn't to others. Though to be fair the ps4 had a small number of defects outside the WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sounds due to Sony's infamously bad thermal paste application.


I've used mine enough that withing 2 years or so I've had to open it and fix something wrong with it. (ps3 slim/fat)
My ps4 died and my pro is loud AF.
I didn't buy a new one because the others were broken in any way. There's a reason I could sell them as "like new" and get good reviews. I just wanted to upgrade. And I still have the PS3 slim to this day and it was used when I got it.
 
GT, Ratchet, Spidey, Horizon aren't enough to counter Halo? Or do you mean an FPS specifically?
If Halo were shown off tomorrow I think that GT, Ratchet, Spidey and Horizon would have been enough but people have short memories. Hell, even by the end of the PS5 reveal you had people saying that Sony didn't show much.

I think Sony will need to show off God of War 2 or Final Fantasy XVI to maintain mind share heading into launch.
 
How small is your living room? If I can fit a 40 something inch soundbar sure the PS5 or XSX can fit. They'll both be big for heating issues but it's nothing unfeasible and I think it looks sexy as hell. There's a gazillion devices that look like anything they would've shown.
I think you misunderstand my comment. Technically it will fit in my living room but since it won't conveniently fit in most tv stands they are asking people to just put that giant console out on display. Most people like to have their living room look like it all fits together.
 
I really dont understand why they streamed compressed 1080/30 but their amazing 4k trailers were shown after ? By gaming websites on top of that. Kind of left me a bit confused and dissapointed on stream. 4K Trailers are way better ...
 
If Halo were shown off tomorrow I think that GT, Ratchet, Spidey and Horizon would have been enough but people have short memories. Hell, even by the end of the PS5 reveal you had people saying that Sony didn't show much.

I think Sony will need to show off God of War 2 or Final Fantasy XVI to maintain mind share heading into launch.
Spidey and horizon sold 10 million each. I think those make a big impact. God of war would be a pretty big drop to save though. Honestly I'm shocked miles will be available at launch
 
I think you misunderstand my comment. Technically it will fit in my living room but since it won't conveniently fit in most tv stands they are asking people to just put that giant console out on display. Most people like to have their living room look like it all fits together.
But neither one will fit vertically in most tv stands. Not good for thermals anyway to keep them in an enclosed space. That being said horizontal would be fine for either though PS5 is less tall if you do it that way it looks like
 
Spidey and horizon sold 10 million each. I think those make a big impact. God of war would be a pretty big drop to save though. Honestly I'm shocked miles will be available at launch

No doubt that Spidey and Horizon 2 are huge but there is something about Halo that makes people lose their minds. Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
 
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The ps1/2 launch was great and it got nothing but love.

Don't know where you were but Ps1 was a lot of wtf do they know, its ugly, its not Nintendo/Sega Etc etc

The PS2 one on old old GAF was a war zone. lots of Sega fanbois shitting on the games, console etc etc.

outside of this tiny bubble. Yeah most people probs quite happy with what they had shown today. As they were with the ps1 and 2. But you'd never know in here
 
No doubt that Spidey and Horizon 2 are huge but there is something about Halo that makes people lose their minds. Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
I don't think people are like that anymore, Halo really needs to come back strong to have any impact anymore.

It's not up to par with its former glory :(
 
I didn't realize this was today. Just got back from a long day of work and getting ready to watch.

Is there a good summary post in here to refer to? I don't know if I'm going to make it the whole two hours.

Thanks in advance.
 
Impressive presentation overall. Ratchet, Demon's Souls and Horizon are a well-balanced trifecta of "big" games to help the PS5 make its first big splash.

lots of the indie titles showed promise too.

But can we talk about the console design? Holy fuck. I'm a Sony fanboy, I will admit. But the console design is bad. Like, hard to look at bad. Why on earth did they go with that, of all the designs they probably had been considering??

Also, fuck the discless version. I have a feeling I'm going to be paying more money just to have an optical drive so I can take full advantage of BC.

And Halo won't do shit.
 
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I dont know what 90 percent of gaf and the world was watching but boy are you guys ever fucking blind?

I just watched the show and everything i saw i was impressed by.

Every thread is how shit the show was like really?

Maybe get of your 5 inch phones or maybe realize that the stream quality was horrible even on my 80 inch 4k screen.

If this is the first wave of the ps5 visuals well fuck all the haters cuz go back to all the ps4 launch games and fast forward to god of war or tlou2.

The only thing i agree with is the console if fuuuuugllyy.
Thank god its behind doors like all my other stuff.


I am very disapointed in most here.
And to think all of you are like $400 is the sweat spot but expect the world in graphics like wow.

Cant wait for all these pc wankers coming out waving their $1000 cards and how it shits on the ps5.
 
The only thing that looked actively and aggressively bad was that furry high school game.

So like a 75 minute presentation and only one terrible thing.
 
For starters, for them to stop unrealistic hyping a console. Games were good, but "future of gaming"? Nah. Same games as always with better graphics and some new gimmicks.
Thats because they actually have successful franchises, these are called sequels, something MS doesnt get alot of.
 
What the fuck were people expecting, for real. It's a damn console. They showed off some true, AAA, top-tier games, of the sort people have been asking for for a long time. They showed gameplay. The games looked great. What is the problem? I am not a Sony fanboy, far from it, but they did a great job, great enough that the thought crossed my head to try to get one of these things.
...... pretty sure everyone expected something that looked half as good as the UE5 tech demo since we have like 50 threads praising it as proof of the SSD's magic. People were saying that the level of detail available in nanite would be nerfed on the XSX because of its slower SSD speeds. Some people pointed out that ...u know the GPU is responsible for the brunt of graphical presentation and one console's is more powerful than the one with 8gig SSD reads
 
Why I think the event deserves 10/10?

Well, going to the event I only expected to like around 2-3 games max, and I was amazed by so many interesting titles with original ideas! Most PS5 only games were native 4K, and looked very impressive. Let's get into them:

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

90% interest: Looks wonderful in native 4K, like all (most?) others shown. Liked the prior game, and this most mostly a spin-off like Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.

Grand Theft Auto V and Grand Theft Auto Online

0% interest. I rate it already as 4/10, one of the shittiest open world car driving, on foot gameplay animation. The game has everything, that's why most kids love it, but it's like cheap, low budget furniture store that has shit racing and driving, shit gun fight, shit pool and arcade games, shit flight. Rockstar is great with narrative although the story as I finished it has plenty of cringy, cheap jokes. I liked the GTA4 story and protagonist much, much more, probably all the previous ones in that regard.

Project Athia (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

100% interest. Looks like a pure potential of what to expect from a worthy PS5 next gen game. The game play, although stunning looking, the assets are slightly rough and might leverage UE5 later on.

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. The game looks CGI! Wonderful, lots of chaos, amazing visuals and the regular interesting gameplay and story-telling.

Stray (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

80% interest. This game looks strange, not sure gives me strange feeling like Limbo game and Journey, and seems to have something creative behind it.

Returnal (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

70% interest. Horror games aren't my type, but looks action horror which is not bad to try, and I'm all in for some sci-fi shit.

Destruction AllStars (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Wonderful game! Brings back memories of Twisted Metal and Destruction Derby back in PS1, with a flavor of Fortnite-like, and Rocket League. I think this will potentially be Sony's next big thing. Detailed destruction, on-foot interaction when your car destroyed so you can pick up another car. Lots of potential customization both visually and tactically!

Sackboy A Big Adventure (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Loved and bought all LittleBigPlanet games and spent endless ours building things there! Would love more Sackboy! Glad Sony went smart here and didn't let him disappear with the likes of LBP games on hold right now after Dreams.

Oddworld Soulstorm (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

70% interest. Mostly for nostalgia, I remember how creepy it was during the PS1 era, found in the demo free disk inside PS1. Puzzle solving and funny themed.

Kena: Bridge of Spirits (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

100% interest. MAN! This game looks insanely good! One of the best games shown in the reveal so far! Can't wait to dive into it's charming world! Rivals Ratchet and Clank in terms of CGI quality graphics.

Goodbye Volcano High (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

50% interest. Looks strange, gives me Life is Strange vibe, and I love that one a lot. Still not sure about it, it's not clear enough.

GhostWire: Tokyo (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

60%
interest. I'm not into horror games that much, but this looks like action and fun, might give it a try.

JETT: The Far Shore (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

70% interest. Strange looking game, but I'm into space and exploration. Small game as it looks, but seems like a good one.

Godfall (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

70% interest. Looks like a good game overall, interesting fight styles. Might give it a try.

NBA 2K21

0% interest. Let's skip this, I'm a football man (AKA soccer). Used to enjoy some baseball and other sports during PS1 era and before, but not much now.

Gran Turismo 7 (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Finally, a complete version after years. Not into circuit racing but won't heart to play some of the most played car games in my childhood and through the years. There is some slight ladder effect in some very few parts of the trailer, probably for being pre-alpha? Not sure, but better anti-aliasing would help.

Solar Ash (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

60% interest. Looks like a nice game, not sure though. Might pick it up and try it.

Demon's Souls (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

50% interest. Looks great, but I'm not a souls fan. Might give it a try.

Resident Evil Village

0% interest. Looks like a good game, but not for me.

DEATHLOOP (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

90% interest. Looks like a wonderful, fancy shooting game with lots of challenging and punishing consequences. I'll get it!

Little Devil Inside (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

90% interest. Looks very intriguing! Would love to try it out!

Horizon Forbidden West (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Preordering the most expensive digital copy available! One of my favorites!

Bugsnax (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

0% interest. SKIP.

Astro's Playroom (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Gonna preorder it when available and then play the older VR version on the next PSVR2!

Hitman III

10% interest. The last game was shit with insanely stupid AI. So far this doesn't look good enough.

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Then comes the console and accessories reveal! I was shocked! Wonderful, sleek, thin design! Very futuristic, didn't see it coming! I would say the design deserves around 9/10 overall, I love it! Gonna get all those accessories, especially the Pulse 3D wireless headset!

This is all reflective of my own flavors/opinions. I hope it wasn't too long.

 
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It's possible some of these aren't technically possible on the PS4 (at least not in 4k) but every game looked like a PS4 game that was pushed back to be on ps5. The console design is not good either. It looks like a fancy router that is way too big to put in any living room.
You should see a doctor.
 
Spidey did 10 million plus, what did the last Halo sell?

5 million within the first 90 days as confirmed straight from the Franchise Director at 343 himself, Frank O'Connor. Who posted it on here neogaf confirming it, due false rumors being put out there coincidentally on this very same forum & various sites.


Not bad for a console that had around a 16 million user base at the time, give or take.

4 years later, you can bet your ass it's well over 10 by now.
 
I don't think Halo 5 had a very long tail, it didn't get very good word of mouth. It's also on GamePass, I think.

Halo isn't the franchise it used to be.
 
This is crazy :messenger_face_screaming:
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Just watched it. Project Athia, HZD2, and Little Devil Inside really impressed me. Good showing, something for everyone. Most of the games looked next-gen, imo anyway. Not all, but most.

Design is unique.

Good stuff
 
Why I think the event deserves 10/10?

Well, going to the event I only expected to like around 2-3 games max, and I was amazed by so many interesting titles with original ideas! Most PS5 only games were native 4K, and looked very impressive. Let's get into them:

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

90% interest: Looks wonderful in native 4K, like all (most?) others shown. Liked the prior game, and this most mostly a spin-off like Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.

Grand Theft Auto V and Grand Theft Auto Online

0% interest. I rate it already as 4/10, one of the shittiest open world car driving, on foot gameplay animation. The game has everything, that's why most kids love it, but it's like cheap, low budget furniture store that has shit racing and driving, shit gun fight, shit pool and arcade games, shit flight. Rockstar is great with narrative although the story as I finished it has plenty of cringy, cheap jokes. I liked the GTA4 story and protagonist much, much more, probably all the previous ones in that regard.

Project Athia (PS5 Exclusive)

100% interest. Looks like a pure potential of what to expect from a worthy PS5 next gen game. The game play, although stunning looking, the assets are slightly rough and might leverage UE5 later on.

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. The game looks CGI! Wonderful, lots of chaos, amazing visuals and the regular interesting gameplay and story-telling.

Stray (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

80% interest. This game looks strange, not sure gives me strange feeling like Limbo game and Journey, and seems to have something creative behind it.

Returnal (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

70% interest. Horror games aren't my type, but looks action horror which is not bad to try, and I'm all in for some sci-fi shit.

Destruction AllStars (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Wonderful game! Brings back memories of Twisted Metal and Destruction Derby back in PS1, with a flavor of Fortnite-like, and Rocket League. I think this will potentially be Sony's next big thing. Detailed destruction, on-foot interaction when your car destroyed so you can pick up another car. Lots of potential customization both visually and tactically!

Sackboy A Big Adventure (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Loved and bought all LittleBigPlanet games and spent endless ours building things there! Would love more Sackboy! Glad Sony went smart here and didn't let him disappear with the likes of LBP games on hold right now after Dreams.

Oddworld Soulstorm (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

70% interest. Mostly for nostalgia, I remember how creepy it was during the PS1 era, found in the demo free disk inside PS1. Puzzle solving and funny themed.

Kena: Bridge of Spirits (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

100% interest. MAN! This game looks insanely good! One of the best games shown in the reveal so far! Can't wait to dive into it's charming world! Rivals Ratchet and Clank in terms of CGI quality graphics.

Goodbye Volcano High (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

50% interest. Looks strange, gives me Life is Strange vibe, and I love that one a lot. Still not sure about it, it's not clear enough.

GhostWire: Tokyo (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

60%
interest. I'm not into horror games that much, but this looks like action and fun, might give it a try.

JETT: The Far Shore (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

70% interest. Strange looking game, but I'm into space and exploration. Small game as it looks, but seems like a good one.

Godfall (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

70% interest. Looks like a good game overall, interesting fight styles. Might give it a try.

NBA 2K21

0% interest. Let's skip this, I'm a football man (AKA soccer). Used to enjoy some baseball and other sports during PS1 era and before, but not much now.

Gran Turismo 7 (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Finally, a complete version after years. Not into circuit racing but won't heart to play some of the most played car games in my childhood and through the years. There is some slight ladder effect in some very few parts of the trailer, probably for being pre-alpha? Not sure, but better anti-aliasing would help.

Solar Ash (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

60% interest. Looks like a nice game, not sure though. Might pick it up and try it.

Demon's Souls (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

50% interest. Looks great, but I'm not a souls fan. Might give it a try.

Resident Evil Village

0% interest. Looks like a good game, but not for me.

DEATHLOOP (PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

90% interest. Looks like a wonderful, fancy shooting game with lots of challenging and punishing consequences. I'll get it!

Little Devil Inside (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

90% interest. Looks very intriguing! Would love to try it out!

Horizon Forbidden West (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Preordering the most expensive digital copy available! One of my favorites!

Bugsnax (PS4/PS5 Timed Console Exclusive, Available on PC)

0% interest. SKIP.

Astro's Playroom (PS5 Exclusive, PS Studios)

100% interest. Gonna preorder it when available and then play the older VR version on the next PSVR2!

Hitman III

10% interest. The last game was shit with insanely stupid AI. So far this doesn't look good enough.

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Then comes the console and accessories reveal! I was shocked! Wonderful, sleek, thin design! Very futuristic, didn't see it coming! I would say the design deserves around 9/10 overall, I love it! Gonna get all those accessories, especially the Pulse 3D wireless headset!

This is all reflective of my own flavors/opinions. I hope it wasn't too long.
It was bang on . Everything you wrote.

Big negative on the capped stream quality and the lack of 3d audio.
I hate using headphones but i out them on for the show for no reason. Other then giving me a headache i didnt benefit from it
 
Any thoughts on the price difference between disc and digital?

Retail is dead so i dont think id ever buy a disc plus i share games with my buddy so no chance i care for disc version.

Maybe that one cost more due to larger ssd?
 
This is crazy :messenger_face_screaming:
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Looks like a toilet brush.
 
It was bang on . Everything you wrote.

Big negative on the capped stream quality and the lack of 3d audio.
I hate using headphones but i out them on for the show for no reason. Other then giving me a headache i didnt benefit from it

Man, check the 4K trailers, they're already there since the show finished, here are some screenshots of actual gameplay and cutscenes from PS5 1st party, true next gen leap!

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Man, check the 4K trailers, they're already there since the show finished, here are some screenshots of actual gameplay and cutscenes from PS5 1st party:

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I just finished the show. The only ones i saw where some bs with 4k slapped on it.

Come on man you can do better show some love and link the videos.

👍
 
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But... But... What are you doing Sony? Where... Where is the rest? And where is PSV... BAH!

Well, before the date of 4 June they said they will show things on several showings during Summer, so it's a given that they would not show everything in one go (and they obviously have to keep some important things for next year showings).

About VR, which is my most wanted feature on PS5, last year they said that they don't want to introduce it this year, to not confuse gamers with too many products at once. I'm perfectly fine with that, if that will bring further refinement of VR hardware and lower costs (please tell them to have all headsets bundled with VR controllers, otherwise the entire VR generation will necessarily be developed around base pad. That would be a waste.
 
I just finished the show. The only ones i saw where some bs with 4k slapped on it.

Come on man you can do better show some love and link the videos.

👍

Man, I think you don't have access to 4K then. Here, a screenshot from my PC of the heavily compressed youtube video:

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Want more? Use your 4K tv and watch them all, you're missing a lot. And those are heavily compressed videos, a slight movement makes lots of small artifacts. 1 minute of already 8-bit 4K makes around 750MB, translates into 150-160MB on youtube.
 
Man, I think you don't have access to 4K then. Here, a screenshot from my PC of the heavily compressed youtube video:

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Want more? Use your 4K tv and watch them all, you're missing a lot. And those are heavily compressed videos, a slight movement makes lots of small artifacts. 1 minute of already 8-bit 4K makes around 750MB, translates into 150-160MB on youtube.
You know what i fucked up.
I set it to 1080 for the show to force it to stay like that vs auto.

I have to set the quality to 4k.

Man you good.
 
It's possible some of these aren't technically possible on the PS4 (at least not in 4k) but every game looked like a PS4 game that was pushed back to be on ps5. The console design is not good either. It looks like a fancy router that is way too big to put in any living room.

This...
My excitement is gone. I don't even know if I want this... My tv room is nice man this is going to be a space age eyesore. Yes how your shit looks is important to some people.
Edit.. At least Xbox I can throw in a corner no one will notice it.
 
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